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skiddtrader
post Sep 11 2010, 01:26 AM

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If you registered an online account, it means you bypassed the remisier services which is normally engaged via phone. Online accounts without broker assisted transactions are normally cheaper in term transaction charges because the commissions are very low due to lack of broker/remisier assistance.

You really need to go through CIMB platform guide to get to know your trading platform.

All transactions have charges no matter how low. Normally there is the minimum charge either in % or RM depending which is higher. On top of that you have the stamping and clearing fees.

Talisworks RM1.30

If you buy only 1 lot or 100 shares;

Share price x 100 = RM130
Stamping (RM1 for every RM1k) = RM1
Brokerage charges = RM130 * % or RMxx (flat rate) whichever is higher


Normally people will advise against buying such a low amount as the brokerage charges are quite high, and because of that to break-even it takes some amount of share price appreciation to make a profit.

For instance if the minimum Brokerage is 0.4% or RM28 which ever is higher.

Share price * 1 lot (100 shares) = RM130
Brokerage = RM28 (which is higher)
Stamping = RM1

Your total cost for buying the share = RM159

Which translates to RM1.59 per share. So in other words, your share price needs to appreciate 29 sens or 22% before you start making a profit. And don't forget when you sell your share, you have to pay the brokerage, stamp and clearing fees as well.


But if you buy 10 lots or 1000 shares

Share price RM1.30 * 10 lots = RM1300
Brokerage = RM28
Stamping = RM2 (RM1 for every RM1k worth of transaction)

Total cost = RM1330 or RM1.33 per share


Another example for 100 lots

Total share price = RM13000
Brokerage = RM52 (0.4% is higher than the minimum RM28)
Stamping = RM 13

Total cost = RM13065 or RM1.31 per share (rounded figure).


So in other words, don't buy such in low volumes where the cost of transaction impedes your ability to make profit.

And remember that when you sell your shares, the same calculation for the charges applies.

This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Sep 11 2010, 01:28 AM
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post Dec 16 2010, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Dec 16 2010, 10:19 AM)
I am online CIMB. maybank, RHB and osk ... but couldn't find it
Which one are you talking or how and where
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Only place that has all that information since 1999 is KLSE website. Check the announcement pages of listed companies under historical tab. Every quarterly report for every company is there ready to download.
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post Dec 16 2010, 11:50 PM

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Need some clarification.

If a substantial shareholder of more than 35% recently acquired more than 20% shares, making his holding exceed 50%, will it trigger the mandatory general offer?

Or when he sold his stakes down from 51% to 49%, will it trigger anything?
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post Dec 17 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 17 2010, 12:13 AM)
51% won't trigger MGO if the existing major shareholder already hold 35% in the first place.

Only when somebody acquiring shares outer that until reach 33% threshold.

It trigger nothing.

Only when the substantial shareholder acquired until 75%, then it trigger/violate listing requirement. If not mistaken, it triggers another MGO at this level.
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Ok thanks cheeroy. Understood.
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post Dec 17 2010, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Dec 17 2010, 12:09 PM)
Maybe this can further explained your question...or making it more confused ...
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Thanks rosdi1. Yeah I read that before I asked but after reading a couple of times, I still did not know whether the 50% rule applies or not. Haha.
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post Jan 24 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Diehard1798 @ Jan 23 2011, 05:10 PM)
hi can anyone recommend where to learn all this TECHNICAL ANALYSIS I think lot of people will be interested in this topic ..

financial fundamentals and key ratios (sales growth rates, profit margins, market prices of assets, capital expenditure requirements, EPS, P/E, P/B, current ratio,  and operating ratios - inventory turnover, accounts receivable turnover, and accounts payable turnover.);
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For technical analysis education, one of the best free sites in my opinion with a good beginner tutorial is Babypips. Take their "School" tutorial from beginner all to the end. Although it is a Forex site, the essential basics of technical analysis will be covered fully.

Another great link and considered the dictionary of investing is Investopedia where every article, tutorial and term is explained. You can use their 'search' function as a guide or 'investing' dictionary if you're aren't sure about certain terms when reading financial articles.

And obviously, GOOGLE is always your best friend to search for online material.


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post Sep 25 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Sep 23 2011, 12:30 PM)
You still need to take the par value into consideration. Earlier eg,

RM0.50*1000shares*RM0.50parvalue so div payment is RM250.

Tax exempt and taxable. Both still need to pay tax only difference is tax exempt is the company is paying the tax for you and taxable is 25% tax from the div and the balance pay to you.

Some div have 1st tier , 2nd tier is where the co is paying few times a year

some div 3% some 3sen
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That's an in-accurate understanding of how the dividend is calculated.

The par value is only included into the calculation if the announcement of dividend is in '%' terms. If it is already in 'sen' term, then no need to multiply by the par value anymore.

For example;

If company A announces dividend of 5%. (This means it's 5% of the par value and not the share price.) You hold 5000 shares.

Par value of the company A is RM0.50, so to calculate the amount of monies owed to you will be ;

(5% * Par value) * Number of share you hold = Dividend payable

(5% * 0.50) * 5000 = (0.025) * 5000 = RM125


If company A decides to be clearer, they can announce it in actual monetary terms like, declared 2.5 sen dividends. Which is straight forward calculation.

RM0.025 * 5000 = Rm125

The reason why I think most companies rather announce in '%' terms is because it sounds "nicer". When people read 5% dividend is always nicer than RM0.025 dividend. If the stock has a par value of RM0.10, for sure the company will announce in '%' terms. You can imagine the announcement will be something like this.

"The company is proud to declare 25% dividends."

And everyone will go 'ooohhh' and 'ahhh'. But actual fact dividend only RM0.025 and sounds 'small' and un-important. sweat.gif



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post Jul 31 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Jul 31 2012, 06:58 PM)
Hi. I've got a question, hope anybody can answer me. I received share options from the company I'm working for. Price offered is approximately 19% lower than the market price. I plan to take loan to buy the shares, and sell shortly after. Does bank allow that? I mean, for example can I take loan this week and sell in the following week? Effective interest charge would then be for one week only right? Thanks.
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Normally companies with share options have their list of broking houses which you can use from applying for CDS account to remisier service. They would also have some form of loan financing for exactly what you are planning to do.

But interest rate wise I'm not sure.

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