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post Dec 7 2009, 02:20 PM

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Market cap = share price * total paid up shares of the company.
What it reflects is the value perceived by the market, of the company as a whole.

maybank, for instance, has a market cap of approx 45billion, which means the market thinks maybank group is worth 45b.
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post Dec 7 2009, 03:48 PM

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can anyone tell me where can i get all these information=market cap, num of outstanding shares,ratios,company financial history etc???i couldn't find it in reuters, yahoo finance,klse web etc..some company do provide it in their annual reports,but majority dont...or do i need to pay for the information??sad.gif
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QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Dec 7 2009, 03:48 PM)
can anyone tell me where can i get all these information=market cap, num of outstanding shares,ratios,company financial history etc???i couldn't find it in reuters, yahoo finance,klse web etc..some company do provide it in their annual reports,but majority dont...or do i need to pay for the information??sad.gif
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Normally your broker online trading platform will have these kind of information available for free. Though some are basic, some are more detailed.

Some companies provide these details for a fee, though some if you're a frequent trader, gives it for free by waiving the subscription fee.
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there's actually alot of free information available out there, most frequently used is of course ur KLSE announcments and ur annual reports. Generally both provide decently reliable financial information. However, for market sentiments, investor opinions and research house recommendations, u'll need a bit more digging to find them tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leongal @ Nov 27 2009, 09:54 AM)
i am planning to open an online trading account, currently which is the better ones? for example, in terms of transaction cost...or so forth
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i personally like maybank since i can transfer my money back and forth through my savings a/c
they charge like RM16 per trade

may i know if i can closed my cds a/c in TA and transfer all the shares in it to my cds in maybank?
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 8 2009, 03:37 AM)
i personally like maybank since i can transfer my money back and forth through my savings a/c
they charge like RM16 per trade

may i know if i can closed my cds a/c in TA and transfer all the shares in it to my cds in maybank?
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Hehe I thought Maybank in terms of reliability is quite bad. But I guess the convenience won you over.

As far as I know there will be additional charges for transferring shares from 1 broker to the other. Not so sure how much though.


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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 8 2009, 08:07 AM)
Hehe I thought Maybank in terms of reliability is quite bad. But I guess the convenience won you over.

As far as I know there will be additional charges for transferring shares from 1 broker to the other. Not so sure how much though.
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hehe, going to try out Jupiter soon since its cheaper RM10 only
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on the stock panel on OSK , there are three types of transaction: buy ,sell and mid. What does mid means?

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im using maybank and i bought shares using DUP which i think means T+3 rite?
if i sell it b4 3 trading days, do i still get charged the Commissions & brokerage fees?
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 05:53 AM)
im using maybank and i bought shares using DUP which i think means T+3 rite?
if i sell it b4 3 trading days, do i still get charged the Commissions & brokerage fees?
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ALL transactions get charged commissions and brokerage fees. You cannot escape it. The only difference in selling before T+3 is not having to come out the entire capital for the purchase. Meaning its possible to buy something you don't actually have money for, hoping it will rise to earn.
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 10 2009, 06:23 AM)
ALL transactions get charged commissions and brokerage fees. You cannot escape it. The only difference in selling before T+3 is not having to come out the entire capital for the purchase. Meaning its possible to buy something you don't actually have money for, hoping it will rise to earn.
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thanks for the explanation

another question i see from this site: http://www.tuneprofit.com/stock-basic/diff...ominee-account/

CLIENTS COLLATERAL TRADING – NOMINEE nominee account
1) CDS (stock) is held under company’s name
2) Not entitle to apply for IPO
3) Entitle for dividend but not any voucher issue by company
4) No Annual Report received

annual report im not concern since i can check it online and i'll be saving trees but the main thing is not entitle to voucher issue is major concern for me

does it mean im losing out in something? im concern becos im using maybank2u and i think its a nominee ac. pls clarify. tqtq notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 8 2009, 03:37 AM)
i personally like maybank since i can transfer my money back and forth through my savings a/c
they charge like RM16 per trade

may i know if i can closed my cds a/c in TA and transfer all the shares in it to my cds in maybank?
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neko trading platform tend to break down easily, this is wat i observe from this forum (lots of complain cannot login)
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 06:38 AM)
thanks for the explanation

another question i see from this site: http://www.tuneprofit.com/stock-basic/diff...ominee-account/

CLIENTS COLLATERAL TRADING – NOMINEE nominee account
1) CDS (stock) is held under company’s name
2) Not entitle to apply for IPO
3) Entitle for dividend but not any voucher issue by company
4) No Annual Report received

annual report im not concern since i can check it online and i'll be saving trees but the main thing is not entitle to voucher issue is major concern for me

does it mean im losing out in something? im concern becos im using maybank2u and i think its a nominee ac. pls clarify. tqtq  notworthy.gif
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To be honest, I don't see a reason why anyone would want to open a nominee account. It has restrictions and less 'perks' compared to a full account. So my opinion to anyone asking is always to open a full account compared to a nominee account. And you still pay full charges when transacting in nominee account.

Annual report nowadays all by CD/DVD already. Only upon request do you get the paperback copy.

Voucher sometimes is part of the perks holding on to certain shares like Genting for example. They give out hotel vouchers with their Annual report I think. So you're really missing on something if you dont' get it.

Being unable to apply for IPO is another BIG letdown. I remember reading a few people in the Maxis IPO thread that their application was rejected because they didn't realise Nominee account can't apply for IPO. So definitely you'll lose out a lot here.

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 10 2009, 10:44 AM)
To be honest, I don't see a reason why anyone would want to open a nominee account. It has restrictions and less 'perks' compared to a full account. So my opinion to anyone asking is always to open a full account compared to a nominee account. And you still pay full charges when transacting in nominee account.

Annual report nowadays all by CD/DVD already. Only upon request do you get the paperback copy.

Voucher sometimes is part of the perks holding on to certain shares like Genting for example. They give out hotel vouchers with their Annual report I think. So you're really missing on something if you dont' get it.

Being unable to apply for IPO is another BIG letdown. I remember reading a few people in the Maxis IPO thread that their application was rejected because they didn't realise Nominee account can't apply for IPO. So definitely you'll lose out a lot here.
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can u suggest few securities company that charge low brokerage like maybank? pls exclude TA since they charge RM40 per trade and unhappy with their service already
tq

just applied with jupiter and found out theirs are a nominee also doh.gif

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 06:38 AM)
thanks for the explanation

another question i see from this site: http://www.tuneprofit.com/stock-basic/diff...ominee-account/

CLIENTS COLLATERAL TRADING – NOMINEE nominee account
1) CDS (stock) is held under company’s name
2) Not entitle to apply for IPO
3) Entitle for dividend but not any voucher issue by company
4) No Annual Report received

annual report im not concern since i can check it online and i'll be saving trees but the main thing is not entitle to voucher issue is major concern for me

does it mean im losing out in something? im concern becos im using maybank2u and i think its a nominee ac. pls clarify. tqtq  notworthy.gif
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Some companies such as Genting , Resort World ( Genting M ) , and maybe YTL give Vouchers or coupons for you to enjoy their facilities.

You are not entitled for that.

Some said they approach Maybank and still getting them ( I heard it quite a long time ago ).

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 05:34 PM)
can u suggest few securities company that charge low brokerage like maybank? pls exclude TA since they charge RM40 per trade and unhappy with their service already
tq

just applied with jupiter and found out theirs are a nominee also  doh.gif
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I'm using OSK and RHB. I like both of them and both aren't nominee account.

I'm surprised Jupiter is also nominee account. Did you ask if you could get a full account instead of nominee?

Oh and I'm also a firm believer in using the services of a broker/remisier. Online trading is not worth the risks for me. Minimum brokerage charges don't concern me, but would be a profit killer if you trade in small sums.

As far as I know, both RHB and OSK do not have competitive low minimum charges compared to others like CIMB RM8.88 deal or Jupiter or Hong Leong etc.

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 05:34 PM)
can u suggest few securities company that charge low brokerage like maybank? pls exclude TA since they charge RM40 per trade and unhappy with their service already
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just applied with jupiter and found out theirs are a nominee also  doh.gif
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Oopps, Jupiter I dont think is nominee account as it is not a bank... Only banks will use nominee account. Those bank which is investment in nature also have CDS account.

Could you have something wrong information somewhere?

I just look at my yellow form from Jupiter to open CDS account with Bursa Malaysia. So I am sure you have got the wrong information. tongue.gif


Added on December 10, 2009, 10:42 pm
I am currently Maybank customer as well. I do received vouchers from Genting. You have to make noise to them if you dont get it.....LOL



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QUOTE(protonw @ Dec 10 2009, 10:40 PM)
Oopps,  Jupiter I dont think is nominee account as it is not a bank... Only banks will use nominee account.  Those bank which is investment in nature also have CDS account.

Could you have something wrong information somewhere?

I just look at my yellow form from Jupiter to open CDS account with Bursa Malaysia.  So I am sure you have got the wrong information.  tongue.gif


Added on December 10, 2009, 10:42 pm
I am currently Maybank customer as well.  I do received vouchers from Genting.  You have to make noise to them if you dont get it.....LOL
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Nominee account is not restricted to banks or bank backed IBs.All broking firms can provide this upon request.

But some broking firms have choosen to impose it.
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Dec 10 2009, 11:38 PM)
Nominee account is not restricted to banks or bank backed IBs.All broking firms can provide this upon request.

But some broking firms have choosen to impose it.
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notworthy.gif I learned something thumbup.gif

Since I have CDS account open with Jupiter, mine is CDS account right? They wont put to nominee..... icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(protonw @ Dec 11 2009, 07:41 AM)
notworthy.gif  I learned something  thumbup.gif

Since I have CDS account open with Jupiter, mine is CDS account right?  They wont put to nominee..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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You can call Jupiter Help Desk to find out more " firsthand " info yourself., or any issues you need to clarify.



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