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post Oct 6 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Lenore @ Oct 6 2009, 06:10 PM)
oo,what happens next when ive decided to sell my shares?does it take 3 processing days too?

do you have any reliable sources regarding shares?..im sick of filtering the info,have been doing it all day long..

and last thing,mcdonald's shares arent available in msia??thanks yea smile.gif
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When you sell your shares, your share in CDS account will be debited out and you will get the money on T+3.

You cannot possible understand about stock market with a day or 2 searching and reading, need sometimes monitoring and lot of reading around to find out, and undestanding.

McD is listed in NYSE.
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post Nov 7 2009, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(AvenJ @ Nov 7 2009, 12:59 AM)
is that all the dividend annouced will affect the price in that way?
then what's the share holder wil get if they have the dividend but the share price cuts accordingly with the dividend?
somemore the 4 cents is less tax, meaning we will received around 3 cents after the tx but the share price beng lowered down for 4 cents?

i am a bit confused here, a noob question but i really need advice.

thank you in advance!
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Yes, it is same across the world bourses.

Short term wise, yes you get nothing.

But look longer term, share price won't be going down because of the ex-price issue, if the company still able to generate profit and dividend as same degree, share price will go back up.

Share price is one thing, money (dividend) goes into your pocker is another thing.


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post Dec 1 2009, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Dec 1 2009, 11:14 AM)
I saw that twice. Once pre-market for the afternoon session (between 2pm to 2:30) and just during closing (4:45pm). It does not make sense for them to test on production system.
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May be some minor bug in the software/system, could be during re-routing process, as we are not connecting direct with the main KLSE trading system, it is re-route through investment bank online portal when we are seeing it.

Just my guess.
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post Dec 7 2009, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Dec 7 2009, 11:09 AM)
hi guys,beginner here..may i noe how do we calculate the market cap??stock price X total volume or day volume????and what does it mean??saw it in some newspaper not long ago..thx!!!
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Share price x total outstanding shares/paid up shares of the company.

Nothing to do with market trading volume.
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post Dec 18 2009, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Dec 18 2009, 12:46 PM)
Guys, what will happen if I missed the T+3 due date?
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Forced sell
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post Dec 21 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Dec 21 2009, 01:54 PM)
i read somewhere here few weeks back, but cant find it....therefore, i am repeating.

If the share price is RM 1.20, I want to buy at RM 1.20, it will be 100 units/ 1000units/ 1 lot for RM 1.20? which means I pay RM 1,200? blink.gif
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min lot size is 100 shares
So you buy 1 lot at 1.20 = 120.
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post Jan 19 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(alvincks @ Jan 18 2010, 10:35 PM)
Thanks rosdi1.

May be i confuse on fair value, what i means is how to determine whether the share price is under or over value ? how to we determine it ?
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Fair value is a subjective matter, there is no single way to define it.

But basically, fair value is the amount of valuation paid in order to get a satisfactory return on your investment.

Just like you buy a share at RM1.00, the company can generate Rm1 cent profit for you. So ask back yourself, do you satisfy with 1 cent profit with capital Rm1.00. Obviously no, right?

But if the company can generate 8-10 cents profit for you with RM1.00. Then it sounds ok, and fair that the stock worht Rm1.00. So in your perception it is a fair value for you at Rm1.00.
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post Jan 19 2010, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(changccs @ Jan 19 2010, 10:12 AM)
wanna ask something, if the company PE ratio is -50 something among the industry average is it good?
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PE 50 is extra-ordinary high.

Market average is in teen number, preferrably around 13-15.

But this depended on the particular earning result situation, some profit figure might due to one-off event that drag down the profit on particular year etc issue that affect the PER.

So cannot straight away conclude anything before dig in the details.
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post Jan 25 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(superminis6451 @ Jan 25 2010, 11:44 AM)
Hi, I am a newbie here.
To all the sifu here, just wonder where can I get the past 10 years PE ratio?
I can't find it through their website, is there anyway to obtain it?
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I don't think need to do for newbie. Just fyi, average PE ratio for market and reasonable PE ratio is around teen number. While it depends on economy trend and interest rate as well.

QUOTE(superminis6451 @ Jan 25 2010, 12:27 PM)
I refered from a book for calculation of intrinsic value and the fair value.
Probably, sifu here can teach me how to get these 2 values?
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Every company situation is different to each others, it is impossible to apply a set of calculation to judge all the company.

Fair value is about a valuation that one willing to pay on the share price to get a reasonable return than others investment vehicle while exposed to the risk of it.

Don't be too rigid on those value, it is merely one of the guide.
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post Feb 28 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(junekaede @ Feb 27 2010, 07:05 PM)
Sorry, a little out of topic I guess.

People....I told my dad that I wanted to invest like few years back, but then he do not support me. That time I was still studying.

Then now, I started working already, I plan to use my own money to invest.  i told him again recently and he disagree again saying that all those are craps and why are we investing on some other company's shares which you do not actually know them well.

I told him that I will definitely read those reports and analyse before I start to choose which to invest and he mentioned that all those reports are barely numbers created ONLY.

Whats you guys opinion on this?
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Number can be played around, but hard cold cash in the form of dividend is not. You cannot fake cash.
I know profit number something can be boost up, from various points, but cash cannot. So in term of reading the financial report, cashflow is the one is the priority to look at, not profit.

Company can survive without profit, but company cannot survive without cash.

So if the company is able to give dividend from its profit and cashflow made, then it just sums up (99%) it is real.

Yes, any financial report can be made up, which is not something new. But it represent a small portion of it. We don't sink the whole boat just because a few in the boat has bad record. To say everything is created number is too much or exaggerated, no offence. As if like that, everything is society is made up number, or fake one.

Sincerity and looking after shareholder and corporate governance is the most important when invest in listing company as minority shareholders. That's why some old head or experience investors only invest in some stocks they are very familiar and which they know the company is always looking after shareholder benefit. The most important is to know the company, instead merely looking xyz company share that is Rm 0.xx, and buying based on the name and price, without proper studying.

One of the basic form of looking after shareholder benefit is always sharing the profit in term of dividend. That's my basic view, which is more about personal preference.



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post Mar 8 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ekhoono @ Mar 8 2010, 08:01 PM)
Can i be a seller & buyer at the same time,same stock ,example A stock sale RM0.10(100 lot,sale high),at the same time buy low RM0.095 (100lot) and left the bursa system match randomly,earn the difference of the value?
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can, but you are risking yourself become short sell in this situation. It is quite a big offence to short sell a stock.

I don't think anyone would risk oneself to earn such a peanut profit.

What if all people sell to you at 0.095 and then price sink to 0.08? whistling.gif
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post Mar 11 2010, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(ganstream1 @ Mar 10 2010, 06:29 PM)
Want to know,

I want to start my investment with literally little money (around RM1800) and am thinking of going for 2-3 of the div counters, compounding them every month (around RM750 per month top up) and hold on to them for a long time and using the div received to grow my capital.

Is this a sound plan to be use in malaysian market or is it better to have another option open (put some into div counters and trade some actively or focus into one div counter and top up)?
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Fyi, in reality, very little or only small percentage of investors trade actively and make money out of it by actively trade.

There is no single investment strategy work all the time. It depends on individual situation as well as market/economy situation.

Having said that, able to pin-point a good and fundamental sound company is the first priority for long term investment.
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post Mar 26 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 26 2010, 02:33 AM)
Private placements means issuing new shares for private investors. Whenever new shares are issued whether by private placement, rights/warrant issue etc. the profit distributed among the shares will be lesser per share.

More people means smaller slice of pie for everyone.
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If money raised from private placement is for expanding businesses which increase the profitability of the company, then it is considered positive.

But if private placement is not contribute to any profit increment in the future one, then it is negative.
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post Mar 29 2010, 03:38 PM

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Please no more irrelevant question on the topic/stock market related.

Any other enquiry can post via specific topic created. Ty.
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:13 AM)
Hi, most companies declare dividends as  the number of cents per share. If the company declares dividends in terms of percentage e.g. 10%, the holder of 1000 shares (par value is $1) will get $100.
If the par value is $2, how much will the holder of 1000 shares get?
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200

But there is no RM2 par value stock out there.
Most are RM1 or Rm0.50 or RM0.25, RM0.10.
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ May 5 2010, 08:28 PM)
Question: How do analysts, or experienced investors like yourselves, get information beyond the Quarterly/Annual report?

For example, I read in newspaper that analysts would say company XYZ will win a new contract, or company ABC's plant utilization has increased to 75%. How do they know? Did they call the management or maybe visit their factories, etc? I wonder how do small players like me can get such information.
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Some listed company got periodically analyst briefing which is part of company transparancy and effort to win or attract investors especially for large instituitional investors.

QUOTE(qingweibuaya @ May 5 2010, 11:04 PM)
new to both here and the market ......... i wan to ask tat where i can get to know those listed company's customer , cash flow , debt etc ........

another question is when a company has a PE of negative value , is it recommended not to touch it ?

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There is no such thing of negative PE.

If company is not making any profit aka loss, then there shouldn't be any PE at all. Putting a negative PE is somehow not right, should just blank the PE part.

Customers somehow a more confidential issue, but cashflow statement (overall) is available on the financial report so does debt which appeal in the company balance sheet.

Cashflow statement is one of most important factor which investors should be aware of.

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post May 6 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(qingweibuaya @ May 6 2010, 06:08 PM)
so how can i get financial report of specific company , is it available on bursa website?


Added on May 6, 2010, 6:25 pmmay i know wat is ACE market?
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Yes, it is available in Bursa wesbite as well as most listed comopany got their own website publishing it.

ACE market is renamed from Mesdaq market, which listing requirement is more 'relaxed' as compared to main market.

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post May 7 2010, 12:03 AM

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Can read through this topic. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1039913
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post May 7 2010, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ May 7 2010, 10:20 AM)
jz to ask if we trade online do we have to give the remiser fees?
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Still yes, just may be a little more cheaper.

People need to 'cari makan' mah. Server and bandwidth still need to pay monthly fee.
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post May 12 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ May 11 2010, 05:11 PM)
I just transferred all my shares from HWANG DBS TO CIMB recently. I was wondering is there any possibility that my shares was being transferred to third party without my knowledge?
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Bursa doesn't allow share being transferred to third party. End of story.

They only allow share being transferred within family members which you need to prove it.

The only way share being transferred to third party is through KLSE/Bursa trading system and off-market deal or the way that Bursa fully aware there is transaction is going on.

So even you and your friend make a deal to sell off your share to him/her privately, the share cannot be transferred at all, so no go.
You successful transfer your share to different broker house because it is under the same name/owner.

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