Yes. 21cm. I think there not much Sanko 21cm Wheels around. Been searching high and low to replace Fumoffu's Safari wheel.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 15 2008, 03:43 PM

Actually I have a small tanks to keep them when I clean their homes. I will put bathing sand inside for them to run/dig around.

The sand can be reuse a few times before throwing.

They will poo everywhere even in the food bowl. My robos even sleep and eat in the toilet

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Added on January 15, 2008, 4:06 pmWell if you did your research properly you would know that there is nothing wrong with the Safari Wheel but it is a little small for syrians as syrians requires wheels that are 8inches or more in diameter. The Safari wheel is 7inches I think (can't remember).

Sanko Wild 21cm (8.26 inches) Silent Wheel cost about RM60-70+. If JackJack runs on it, you can see that his back is straight instead of bending a little when running in Safari Wheel which is causing strain on his back. It's good for their backs when they are running in a bigger wheel.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 15 2008, 04:07 PM

KrazyPeaches? (hope I spell her name correct) That is Wodent Wheel Senior which is an 11inch wheel. I don't think it can fit a 2 feet tank or Jackjack's ZooZone2 But if someone is doing a bulk for the Wodent Wheel Junior 8" wheel then it will be just nice. And I will be the first to buy 2 of them

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 15 2008, 04:35 PM

According to http://www.transoniq.com/ who manufactures Wodent Wheels

Wodent Wheel Jr. 8" diameter, 2.6" wide, 2.1" entry holes. Overall height 9.1". Best for hamsters, small sugar gliders and larger mice.

Wodent Wheel Sr. 11" diameter, 3.5" wide, 2.6" "mouse-hole shaped" entry holes. Overall height 12.3". Best for lady rats, squirrels, sugar gliders, large hamsters and small hedgies.

Wobust Wodent Wheel. 12" diameter, 5.3" wide, 3.6" "mouse-hole shaped" entry holes. Overall height 13". Best for larger male rats, prairie dogs and hedgehogs. New! - The Wobust has recently been updated to match the design and colors and easy-to-clean tracks of the Jrs and Srs. (Older version shown in photo. The new version can be seen here: New Wobust.)

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Added on January 15, 2008, 4:59 pmYou didn't count the height of the Wodent Wheel Sr. which is about 12.3 inches. Then it will be customize hamster habitat not tank or cage anymore.

You think so easy to just do a bulk ar? Need to know the vendors/distributors well.

Why don't don't you do? If you do then I confirm order 2 wheels from you and pay you in full first when ordering. How about that?

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 15 2008, 04:59 PM

Welcome!

So much beddings you bought. Can mix and use together.

You bought ZooZone2!!! Your house getting more animals d.

How you do that 2nd platform for the 1.5 feet tank? Habitrail I think....

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 16 2008, 06:29 AM

It's Hagen ZooZone2. I bought mine from Pets More in Queen's Park, Cheras. It cost about RM140+ but I did get a 10% discount and also the member card.

You can also find it in Pet Safari & Pets Family. Other small pet shop would have it also.

jamince,

Welcome. Anyway too much kuaci is bad for their health. You should try Prestige Hamster for their food. But even my robos will pick all the kuaci first then will eat the rest if there is no more kuaci.

If they fight until one of them is bleeding then you should separate them but if not then they are just play fighting. They usually fight to see who is more dominant.

Sand bath you would need a deep bowl & sand bath. Robos will go in there to roll around. I usually put the robos in a small tank with sand bath when I'm cleaning their cage/tank.

Thought you already have a rare syrian with you? What happened to the black eyed ivory?

Still want to buy ar? If you know the basic stuffs then you should know which species of hamsters is suitable for you.

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Added on January 16, 2008, 11:12 pmNice Safari you got there. But the bottle is too high for the robos. You can put the bottle inside the Safari at a lower bar. We are doing the same for the same setup. Just observe if they can reach the bottle or not.

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Added on January 16, 2008, 11:13 pmDon't think you can potty train a syrian like a cat or dog. Please let me know if you can.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 16 2008, 11:13 PM

If he want to let go of her, I think she is better off back to Reanne as she was previous owner. I think the syrian might need extra care, who knows what have happened to her in FrostFox's care.

Anyway don't think you can stand the smell of a syrian's tank in 5-7 days time. If you use a 2 feet tank even worst when you open the lid. I know how it smells like because Fumoffu is using the 2 feet tank and it stinks in less than 7 days

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Added on January 17, 2008, 9:09 amIf you are looking for tubes for the safari, me and sangels got some habitrail mini tubes (which is suitable for robos) to sell. PM me or sangels if you are interested.

Not using anymore cause it is really a pain to wash once a week as the robos will pee, poo, eat, and sleep inside the tubes. Also I have a ZooZone2 and a 2feet tank to wash also with the Habitrail Safari. Let you know what you are getting into first.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 17 2008, 09:09 AM

Well it does help a little with the smell as Fumoffu stinks abit. I would usually put them in a small tank with bathing for them to run around in but never see them roll around JackJack doesn't like sand bath but he is fine cause he always groom himself.

Usually my syrians will just run around and dig here and there. Sometimes will put of the sand over their bodies or roll them over gently.

I think the sand is not hazardous as hamsters are from the deserts. Maybe they are moving the sand like how the moved hay?

I saw in the GP thread that your 2 GPs is in a tank with toilet sand wor... Is this the 'bathing' sand you mentioned? Bathing sand is finer and white/yellow color like those sand in white beaches. I think you are using the wrong sand. You should use the bathing sand instead of the toilet sand

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 17 2008, 03:50 PM

This shows how shallow your knowledge is about taking care of pets. Any kind of pets.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 18 2008, 07:10 AM

You want to put a syrian in a Habitrail Safari??? That cage is so small for a syrian. Dwarfs still can use Habitrail Safari but syrian is too big for it. Why don't you get 2 feet tank instead?

Believe me, Fumoffu used to stay in a Habitrail Safari and less than 1 day we changed him to a 2 feet tank after seeing how cramped it was for him in the Safari.

Also the smell of pee will be worst than the 2 feet tank. You can smell then in less than 20m.

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Added on January 18, 2008, 9:54 amSoulx,

Maybe you should research together with FrostFox... Can be his tutor...

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 18 2008, 09:54 AM

JTL is selling Wodent Wheel in garage sales:

Got Jr and Sr wheels... Going to get 2 from her...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry15216771

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 18 2008, 05:58 PM

... Soulx go to Core_Trace's room... ... To teach him how tame his new syrians... (imagining 2 guys in a room 'taming' hamsters)



This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 19 2008, 08:17 PM

Yes... At least its male and female taming syrians... Anyway our syrians are tamed in the 1st place...

Not like you and soulx... Male and male "taming" syrians Anyway have fun "taming"...

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Added on January 20, 2008, 1:46 amDepends on what dwarfs you have... Please read page 1 for info... It's all there...

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 20 2008, 01:48 AM

FrostFox,

If you have read up from the 1st page of this thread or V5 or other hamster websites. You would know that syrians will stay tamed even if you left them alone for a week or so without any human interactions.

sangels was talking about robos which will be untamed in a few days without human interactions and our syrians are tamed from the beginning because they come from good small pet shops owners who took better good care for them.

You got your rare syrian from Reanne but still you got a very long way to go in order know how to better take care of them. Hopefully the rare syrian Reanne gave you will have a good life with you.

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Added on January 20, 2008, 12:07 pmDude,

For goodness sake, read from the first page of these thread. You will know there is a difference between getting from a big pet shop (pet safari) and getting from small pet shops (pet shack) and home breeders (reanne, crazymouse, nezu, etc).

This goes for other pets too if you don't know. Some small pet shops & home breeders do it for passion of the pets so they took better care of the pets whereas big pet shops do it for the profit and they don't handle the pets.

You should go to the peta website and watch how cruel they treat pets in those big shops.

Again please read more before replying as it makes you look silly

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 20 2008, 12:07 PM

FrostFox,

She said black eyed ivory syrian and this is a rare hamster... Read properly... It's a syrian... Not just WW...

The WW is another case which you put her Sapphire with a WW and she died!

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Added on January 20, 2008, 5:36 pmThis is Sinclair the black eyed ivory syrian that Reanne is mentioning... And you don't know what hamster she is!

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Added on January 20, 2008, 5:41 pmThis is Sapphire that which "you don't know anything about hamster and put 2 white hamsters together for a week" cause her to die...

Remember any of this posts you posted previously?

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 20 2008, 05:47 PM

What thingy you talking about? Sapphire is a name like FrostFox not a thingy...

I really doubt all your posts now... From the beginning you asked about breeding to posting the picture of Sinclair asking what kind of hamster she is... Then you denied not knowing who is Reanne and the hamsters she gave you when sangels asked you. Then you said she gave you the WW without mentioning the syrian. Now this.

To tell you the truth, I'm not purposely aiming to shoot you for this but your posts really got a lot of doubts. So which is the truth? You're going in circles here with this...

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 20 2008, 06:17 PM