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TSaibo210
post Jan 5 2008, 08:30 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi,
im a Tauren warrior with full s2 2 pcs vengeful using (2h merciless sword)looking for a new server to transfer to,i need a good arena teams to join especially 2v2 with resto druid or a good 5v5 team, i can say that my skills r decent,not the best but i manage to hit 1.9k last season with a good resto druid in 2v2,and 1.8k+ in 5v5.i just got my lowerping so i think i can do better.currently i have 3.8k arena points to spend on s3 weapon but i dont hav the rating to get it because the damn druid quits WoW and now im all alone,this server doesnt have much malaysian players too so ive finally make up my mind to transfer to a better place.(or a server with ALOT of resto druids! luv em)

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Chinhui
post Jan 5 2008, 04:56 PM

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I'm on gorgonash too... But on Alliance side ><
on Horde side I believe Disdain and Amitofo have quite numbers of malaysians and there'r the top side of the hordes on this server

I play this game for pvp too, and my friends dont pvp, only pve. I also stranded with limited arena games, only able to do 2v2

you can armory me, Chinhui of Gorgonash (GorgonaTrash) ><
You can /wave /lol /rofl at me when you see me
it's nice to see there'r more malaysian are actually enjoy pvp and arena
TSaibo210
post Jan 5 2008, 05:05 PM

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hahaah chinhui i saw u b4!! ur that human warrior!! im very sure that ur malaysian the first time i see u lol..yeah i enjoy pvp..ever sine i got my Gorehowl i stop raiding and start hardcore in arena,but nowadays,after logged in and no teamates online..24 hrs in durotar dueling =S u can find me outside org almost everyday..tats my life =(

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Jas2davir
post Jan 6 2008, 10:43 AM

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go to death infused! i bet quaza will invite you with open arms!
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post Jan 6 2008, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Jan 6 2008, 10:43 AM)
go to death infused! i bet quaza will invite you with open arms!
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only if we deem him fit to join us. we do not invite anyone simply because they wish to join
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post Jan 6 2008, 07:43 PM

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try to get to know people that wanna do arena, as long they have the heart to do arena, and willing to improve, dont be choosy on gear wise, work more on gameplay, gears will eventually come, play a lot games if you lack of experience.

and s1 honor gears are good to start with too.

my druid initially was a boomkin, and he decided to go resto for 2s. And he heals in boomkin set, even till today he still has the helm on too and some s1 resto gears. We only get to play together this season that has no clue on war/druid setup.

Must be patient with each other, encourage and criticise contructively. Stay cool when loosing games, it's ok to lose when you learn new things. ratings are not important when learning. Some ppl says when you on loosing streaks, you should stop queuing, But I'll say that's a stupid saying when on learning mission on how to play. Get schooled and trashed even if you have to.

not neccesary your partner must be malaysians, mine are all aussies. The problems with "certain portion" Malaysians are having too much ego, cant take criticism, care about ratings too much, give up too easily, and like to look into others mistake but himself.

I DO NOT believe in total noobs that cant pvp at all, only people who are lazy to learn.

ppl that are high on arrogance level you should avoid, the moment arrogance appear, development is halted. Just as good as fullstop. You'll never learn enough.



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post Jan 7 2008, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Chinhui @ Jan 6 2008, 07:43 PM)
try to get to know people that wanna do arena, as long they have the heart to do arena, and willing to improve, dont be choosy on gear wise, work more on gameplay, gears will eventually come, play a lot games if you lack of experience.

and s1 honor gears are good to start with too.

my druid initially was a boomkin, and he decided to go resto for 2s. And he heals in boomkin set, even till today he still has the helm on too and some s1 resto gears. We only get to play together this season that has no clue on war/druid setup.

Must be patient with each other, encourage and criticise contructively. Stay cool when loosing games, it's ok to lose when you learn new things. ratings are not important when learning. Some ppl says when you on loosing streaks, you should stop queuing, But I'll say that's a stupid saying when on learning mission on how to play. Get schooled and trashed even if you have to.

not neccesary your partner must be malaysians, mine are all aussies. The problems with "certain portion" Malaysians are having too much ego, cant take criticism, care about ratings too much, give up too easily, and like to look into others mistake but himself.

I DO NOT believe in total noobs that cant pvp at all, only people who are lazy to learn.

ppl that are high on arrogance level you should avoid, the moment arrogance appear, development is halted. Just as good as fullstop. You'll never learn enough.
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actually, there are just total noobs that just cant pvp. even if they learn, and know every single pvp mechanic that one should know in pvp, they'd still suck. you cant learn reflexes, awareness, for example.
TSaibo210
post Jan 8 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 7 2008, 02:03 AM)
actually, there are just total noobs that just cant pvp. even if they learn, and know every single pvp mechanic that one should know in pvp, they'd still suck. you cant learn reflexes, awareness, for example.
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you have no idea how wrong you are,with the right amount of trainings in duels,bgs,skirmishes,u can gain reflexes,awareness. let me give u one of the example,a pom pyro mage with macro tat makes his pyro seems like an instant,at first it seems to be impossible for me to reflect tat spell,but after tons of practice with different pom pyro mages,reflecting a pom pyro is not a problem to me.JUst because a person is born stupid doesnt mean he will never success if he work hard.you need to get ur facts right.btw,i just found a resto druid and i decided not to transfer anymore,we hit 1976 rating last night in 2v2 so i guess im staying.
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(aibo210 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:23 AM)
you have no idea how wrong you are,with the right amount of trainings in duels,bgs,skirmishes,u can gain reflexes,awareness. let me give u one of the example,a pom pyro mage with macro tat makes his pyro seems like an instant,at first it seems to be impossible for me to reflect tat spell,but after tons of practice with different pom pyro mages,reflecting a pom pyro is not a problem to me.JUst because a person is born stupid doesnt mean he will never success if he work hard.you need to get ur facts right.btw,i just found a resto druid and i decided not to transfer anymore,we hit 1976 rating last night in 2v2 so i guess im staying.
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so then tell me, what is the difference between the follwing 2 players when 1 is 1700 rated and the other is 2100 rated, for example.
- both plays the same playstyle
- both have the same talent specs
- both have the same gear/enchant/gems
- both played over 1k arena games, and did insane ammount of duels, BGs, skirmishes
- both same class
- both have the same arena team setup and hell lets make it better, both player's teams are played with the SAME exact teammates.
- both have the same latency

one of the few main difference between the 2 players would be reflexes, awareness (self, teammates, enemy, surrounding enviroment), communication, teamwork.

last i check there arent any books teaching one how to increase the above said aspects in world of warcraft. (i do realize that there are perhaps books that teaches you to do the above in other area of works) and thus my point still stands that you simply cant learn the above things. you can increase the above things, imho with:
- determination
- good teammates to gain criticism/feedback from
- experience
- and no doubt, innate personal talent in doing the above 3.

No doubt that if a person have strong determination and will power, and work hard for something, he/she should most likely be able to achieve it, but lets have some reality check shall we? there are things in life, that well, no matter how hard you try, will be impossible.
What you are trying to say, if im didnt mis-intepret this line:
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JUst because a person is born stupid doesnt mean he will never success if he work hard.
is that someone with down-syndrome aka mentally retarded (in your interpretation that would be "born-stupid")can perform the exact same skills of POM-Pyro reflecting as you can so long he tries really damn hard? i beg to differ and imho, even playing WoW by itself would be a very very difficult task for such a person.

In WoW terms/jargons:
It would be like putting a mage against a good SL/SL warlock or disc priest with both equal skill/gear/latency. No matter how HARD the mage tries, it is impossible for him to beat the 2 mentioned classes. He can maybe try 100 rounds, and if he even win 10 rounds he can start a bragging spree already.

And in case you are fancying in reflecting POM pyro, there are EZ-mode 1 button macros that allow instant reflects/intervenes so long you arent lagged over 600-1k latencies.

and you might wanna take a read at this:
http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Min...-Arena-Balance/

just setting the record:
the same could be said for my RMP team, but afaik im not really taking that much pride in my 3v3's unless some noob is trying to question my superiority over them in which no doubt i would overpower him to the knees with my superior ratings.
That said, ive already got the 5v5 back on the go and that will be focus as usual, and its right on track with 1953 rating, top 5 server, top 50 battlegroup. next stop, number 1 server.
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post Jan 8 2008, 08:38 PM

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Gratz on reaching to near 2k on 2s, the game has just begun, there's still long long way to go and I'm still learning.

FYI, our BG Rampage has retarded hell lot's of very competitive double dps that can rape either warrior or druid in a very short moment. The key is to split their dps, dont let them do spike dps. Dont expect that even if you have healer, you can kill something fast, cuz you can't lol. You'll be on 1H and a board 50% of the time.

I hate everything that has a rogue in it except rogue/healer. But rogues are easy to predict what cd they gonna pop when you play more. Expect to spamstring or PH, gnomes are uberly OP here.

Never get caught kidney shot in caster/travel form or more or less = GG, smart rogue will save cp for a kidney when druid shift into caster/travel. So only shift out to heal the moment the 3 sec intercept stun. *Use your warstomp timely, it can screw them up badly.

rogue/spriest = they can blew you up in 5-7 seconds if you get caught in beserker stance on a 2H with a blackout from start, if your druid not quick to cc the rogue, abolish/HoTs/Swiftmend, you more like will be dead, druid cc are crucial here aside from healing, and fyi, if you dont cc, your druid would not be able to heal through. Even if he does heal thru, your druid will oom even before the spriest oom (Shadow Fiend ftw). Good priest dispel abolish and hots which make things worst. Regrowth not an option if priest is dispelling, or HT not working inc Silence or fear. CC is the key. if your druid spend important cd like swiftmend and NS very early, a good team that find out, will make a quick swap to your druid, and your druid will die like fly cuz he has nothing to heal himself as he already use it on you.

Rogue/mage = they cc you, go for druid. YOUR druid MUST Abolish himself first before he heals you. This can be hard depends on how good the mage is. Practise more how to 1v1 with a frost mage. Remember to fight his mana pool and cds NOT his health. if the mage is forced to spend important cd to fight you, when your druid pop up, there isnt much things mage can do to druid as he already spend it. Your druid will eventually need to heal you as most frost mages will beat warrior. The moment they go for your druid, there isnt much you can do aside from slowing both mage and rogue down. and just leave the show to your druid. Lucky mace stuns and imp hamstring can be very gamebreaking here ^^. Also if your druid is safe and has some room, put up faerie fire as this will force the rogue to spend another cd before he vanish. Your druid must also know where to run to, able to split the mage and rogue far apart will increase your chance of winning. Disarm can be very tricky here as rogue will also pop evasion knowing that you gonna hamstring him or disarm, so go for PH to be save, disarm thing you need EXACTLY right behind him to disarm, or your disarm will be dodged. Able to survive rogues double AR cds etc with druid having healthy mana = profit. Usually I able to kill mage before rogue. well I dont know why.

Rogue/warlock = this setup I think it's the hardest and the most unpredictable as they have many ways to defeat war/druid unlike other rogue/dps setup. Different teams uses different strats. And if you win against one 1st round, then 2nd round meet them again, JUST be on your toe, good team strats can vary throughout the game. Either you or druid can die here. Nothing much I can comment here. *MUST Pummel Fear* so with Malaysian latency, so yea, other than auto attack, get ready to pummel or else GCD F*** you up, after succesful pummel, then go for MS/ww rotation. Dont rush to kill them. They have no healer anyway. a very good team, a full/half duration fear on your druid with no trinklet up = dead warrior,

Rogue/NE BM hunter = Surprise element can kill you if you not prepared, battle stance and los hunter when he pop TBW.




Dps/healer are just intense and long fight. You got to have good mental stamina to last long fight esp Mirror match that both side equally skilled. Except hunter/druid. in Ruins and nagrand, you can prolong the fight with them but eventually they'll win. On BE Arena, you WONT win at all too BUT you can force it into a draw game ^^ that there's no winner in the end ^^. You need some luck with resists/crits, and strings of terrible mistake to win against Hunter/druid team.

These are just thoughts from my personal experience and feelings. Darkalpha has a more comprehensive guide on war/druid. You might wanna share some good tips with me here on parts that I been missing out ^^
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post Jan 8 2008, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE
just setting the record:
the same could be said for my RMP team, but afaik im not really taking that much pride in my 3v3's unless some noob is trying to question my superiority over them in which no doubt i would overpower him to the knees with my superior ratings.
That said, ive already got the 5v5 back on the go and that will be focus as usual, and its right on track with 1953 rating, top 5 server, top 50 battlegroup. next stop, number 1 server.

you've been bragging how good you and your ratings are in the forum havent you? well "just for the record" no one cares.btw,try to be low-profile abit will ya?


Added on January 8, 2008, 11:29 pmhey chinhui,thats the guide i gave to my druid and he did pretty well after readin it.we dont have much problem on 2 dps team,the only setup that is really fustrating is the hunter and druid,im getting cc hard and my druid cant get the chance to eat the trap for me.thx for d info btw,much aprreciate.

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post Jan 9 2008, 12:18 AM

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hunter/druid also will be fustrated with war/druid

we had quite a number of matches over 1hour - 2 hours against them
won some but lost most of it

Sometimes I just really hate hunter/druid match, it's not about loosing, it's just not worth it to spend 1hours++ per match against them. It got worse if you meet them 3 times consecutively where you may need to spend close to 3 hours just for 3 matches
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QUOTE(aibo210 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:10 PM)
you've been bragging how good you and your ratings are in the forum havent you? well "just for the record" no one cares.btw,try to be low-profile abit will ya?


Added on January 8, 2008, 11:29 pmhey chinhui,thats the guide i gave to my druid and he did pretty well after readin it.we dont have much problem on 2 dps team,the only setup that is really fustrating is the hunter and druid,im getting cc hard and my druid cant get the chance to eat the trap for me.thx for d info btw,much aprreciate.
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post Jan 9 2008, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 9 2008, 01:51 AM)
you cared enough to make a reply
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post Jan 9 2008, 09:54 AM

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grats Dokashi at 1900+... honestly if you played with me we'll never reach high rating laugh.gif Me still learning how to play druid.

Ignore quaza he's just a nerd.
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jan 9 2008, 09:54 AM)
grats Dokashi at 1900+... honestly if you played with me we'll never reach high rating laugh.gif Me still learning how to play druid.

Ignore quaza he's just a nerd.
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:41 AM

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gratz dokashi, enjoy ur new toy and fight for the shoulder rclxms.gif

just ignore the PRO and focus ur rating and wow archivement, i know u are good war (we all know), keep up the good job thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:33 AM)
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what kinda virgin though? virgin irl? virgin in WoW? or both?

i know i had a good laugh laughing people being virgin in WoW tongue.gif
was fun times on vent.
(shes a girl too btw)
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post Jan 9 2008, 12:14 PM

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it's random
i had to type something
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Jan 9 2008, 12:14 PM)
it's random
i had to type something
falling asleep in the office
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wish i could sometimes get bored in office, everyday also busy here /sadface

 

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