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post Dec 29 2007, 06:36 PM, updated 18y ago

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For centuries , question like " Is Law Degree in MMU Malacca eligible?" " Is it recognized? " has been asked.

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I understand fully why are all the questions popping out , because i was once the one who asked this question , and searching endlessly on net for answer, but to no avail , i cant find any answer but now i'm an insider , preparing to give out all the info u guys need here. Therefore if the mod sees fit , please pin this.


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To be a Lawyer in Malaysia , one needs to go through either one of the path

FIRST PATH : STPM & Equivalent --> Local University ---> 4 years Law Degree ---> Chambering 9 months ---> call to the roll of Advocate and Solicitor ( hereinafter refered to as A&S

SECOND PATH : : STPM and equivalent ---> Foreign University ---> 3 years degree ---> Certificate in Legal practise ( 1 year ) hereinafter CLP ---> Chambering 9 months ---> call to the roll of S&A

The main difference u can see in this two path is this , in local university the law degree is purely about Malaysian Law

in Foreign University , the law degree is purely about English Law .

As we all know , Malaysian Law is highly influenced by the English Law , HOWEVER, Malaysia Law is much different than English Law .

After graduating from a foreign uni , u know nuts about Malaysian law, Thats why CLP comes in , to make u a " qualified person " under S.3 of Legal Profession Act 1976 to be admitted into the Bar council

In MMU Malacca, the law degree is based on Malaysian Law

The issue is " Is MMU Law Degree recognized by Bar council or exempted of CLP? "

The answer to this is " No , it is not recognized by either the two , YET "

I will give u the reason :

1) The 1st batch law graduate from MMU Malacca will be next year , Jun 2008 . They'll be the 1st ever law graduate from MMU Malacca.
2) The exemption and recognition is not given yet, because the graduates are not yet graduated now! I'll give u an anology : If ur factory product is yet to be produced, how SIRIM is going to give u the label , even though u've met all the requirement needed?
3) MMU Malacca is doing Malaysian Law, so there is no reason why CLP will not be exempted , it is just a matter of time.
4) a distinction diffrence of foregn Uni degree which is 3 years and local uni degree which is 4 years. In MMU its a 4 years degree.
5) For those who are going to be in MMU for this course soon , dont be afraid, u have 5 years ahead of u, be very worried for ur studies, not whether CLP will be exmepted or not smile.gif

Please feel free to ask me any question. Pay a visit to ur coming Law School to gain a new insight smile.gif

I'd love to see more freshies next Jun 2008 for Law intake , this year there were only 200+ , which is 10 times more than the 1st batch which are only 20+ ppl.

Together lets make MMU Malacca one of the best Law School in Malaysia.

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post Dec 29 2007, 06:47 PM

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err... are u from mmu law?
which year?
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post Dec 29 2007, 06:50 PM

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1 year biggrin.gif Yeap i'm from MMU law
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post Dec 29 2007, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Dec 29 2007, 06:50 PM)
1 year biggrin.gif Yeap i'm from MMU law
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so.. ur in beta..? hmm.gif
okkk... wink.gif

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toby , u're from MMU also? Anything u wanna add into the 1st post ?
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post Dec 29 2007, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Dec 29 2007, 06:52 PM)
toby , u're from MMU also? Anything u wanna add into the 1st post ?
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well.. there are two intakes..
january and also june intake.. smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2007, 07:02 PM

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will the malaysian legal board recognised mmu law programme retrospectively? Do they have the power to recognise a qualification restrospectively?
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post Dec 29 2007, 07:04 PM

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From next year onward, no more Feb intake for Law smile.gif heard from my lecturer


Added on December 29, 2007, 7:07 pm
QUOTE(alsree786 @ Dec 29 2007, 07:02 PM)
will the malaysian legal board recognised mmu law programme retrospectively? Do they have the power to recognise a qualification restrospectively?
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THere is a Qualifying Board established under Section 4 of Legal Profession Act 1976 , they're to decide which qualification requirements to be set in order for one to be admitted into the Bar .

For now, MMU is not under the qualification yet, but after the 1st batch graduates graduated , most probably they'll recognise it based on the reason i've stated above.

Retrospectively , there's none graduates now biggrin.gif so there's nothing to be applied retrospectively

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post Dec 29 2007, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Dec 29 2007, 07:04 PM)

THere is a Qualifying Board established under Section 4 of Legal Profession Act 1976 , they're to decide which qualification requirements to be set in order for one to be admitted into the Bar .

For now, MMU is not under the qualification yet, but after the 1st batch graduates graduated , most probably they'll recognise it based on the reason i've stated above.

Retrospectively , there's none graduates now biggrin.gif so there's nothing to be applied retrospectively
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oh ok...so when do the first batch graduate? err in 3 years izzit?
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next year june 2008 . smile.gif

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btw..how about the qualification...if i am science stream student..in STPM....can i do law??
my pointers??
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QUOTE(sujend @ Dec 29 2007, 07:45 PM)
btw..how about the qualification...if i am science stream student..in STPM....can i do law??
my pointers??
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i was a science stream student also back then in SPM , so i think there shouldn't be any problem for u . for qualification of STPM i'm not sure , please refer to http://www.mmu.edu.my

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DON'T BE DELUDED INTO THINKING THAT ALL THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE ARE TRUE!

I am not writing this to argue, but until now there is no black and white about the future of MMU's Law Degree.

Perhaps all those are just endorsement from MMU. My advice is: why not go to recognized local or foreign universities to persue and realize your dreams of becoming a lawyer? There is nothing so special in MMU that worths you to take the risk!

Once again, i am not writing this to argue nor having any benefit to write this.


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post Dec 29 2007, 11:17 PM

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well not everyone are as rich as u till can go taylor's to take law degree..
i believe that mmu is much more cheaper compare to taylor's..
cos its not a twinning programe like taylors. whistling.gif
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post Dec 29 2007, 11:24 PM

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though i agree with barrister, he cud have put it slightly more subtly...
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post Dec 30 2007, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(toby.c13 @ Dec 29 2007, 11:17 PM)
well not everyone are as rich as u till can go taylor's to take law degree..
i believe that mmu is much more cheaper compare to taylor's..
cos its not a twinning programe like taylors. whistling.gif
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well, i dun think so. usually those who wanna take law will opt to take it at either brickfield or atc bcos they are certainly famous for their law programs. and the tuition fee is kinda similar to wat tuition fee of mmu, so i think it is affordable too.
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Dec 30 2007, 12:19 AM)
well, i dun think so. usually those who wanna take law will opt to take it at either brickfield or atc bcos they are certainly famous for their law programs. and the tuition fee is kinda similar to wat tuition fee of mmu, so i think it is affordable too.
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well the difference btw these two are...
mmu hav the campus environment while atc doesnt hav a campus at all..
brickfields im not sure whether got campus or not la.. laugh.gif
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i guess we'll have to wait and see in june 2008....
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post Dec 30 2007, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Dec 29 2007, 06:36 PM)
The issue is " Is MMU Law Degree recognized by Bar council or exempted of CLP? "

FIRST PATH :  STPM & Equivalent --> Local University ---> 4 years Law Degree ---> Chambering 9 months ---> call to the roll of Advocate and Solicitor ( hereinafter refered to as A&S
First of all I would like to say that your work is much appreciated so as to clear the doubts by prospective law students with regard to the recognition of MMU Law Programme.

However, I noticed some minor omissions or misdescription and I shall not highlight all except two.

There are only 3 ways for a person to be a qualified person with a view of being called to the Malaysian Bar and this is defined in S3 as of the Legal Profession Act 1976.
The first being a recognition of the University itself as expressly stated in the section, the second being a barrister at law of England and the third being any person with a qualification recognised by the board to be sufficient to make the holder a qualified person under the Act.

CLP and Solicitor of the The Law Society Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature England would fall under the third category and Universities like UM and NUS would fall under the first.

MMU's Law Degree would probably fall under the third category as a qualification recognised to make the holder a qualified person as this is how most other local Unis are recognised.

The board recognizing it is the Legal Profession Qualifying Board established under the Act and their jurisdiction falls under the third category.


An Advocate and Solicitor of the High Court of Malaya or the High Court of Sabah & Sarawak (formerly known as Borneo) is not called to the roll.
An Advocate like a Barrister is called to the bar whereas a Solicitor is entered on the roll of Solicitors. However, due to the peculiarity of our Country's legal profession being a fused one and considering that an Advocate normally practices exclusive or higher right of audience, an Advocate and Solicitor in this country is called to the bar instead of being entered on the roll.

The roll as used by the LPA is a register of Advocates and Solicitors with right of audience. And you'll find that no lawyer in this country would consider themselves being entered on the roll as opposed to being called to the bar.

If you are interested in this development, please read more on the history and traditions of the Bench and the Bar.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(barrister @ Dec 29 2007, 10:35 PM)
DON'T BE DELUDED INTO THINKING THAT ALL THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE ARE TRUE!

I am not writing this to argue, but until now there is no black and white about the future of MMU's Law Degree.

Perhaps all those are just endorsement from MMU. My advice is: why not go to recognized local or foreign universities to persue and realize your dreams of becoming a lawyer? There is nothing so special in MMU that worths you to take the risk!

Once again, i am not writing this to argue nor having any benefit to write this.

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thank you for replying . However , if someone is willing to go through the hardship of CLP , please proceed and do so.

Yes it does has no black and white about that , i'm not writing on behalf on MMU , i'm doing this based on my own opinion and perspective of what i've heard and seen.

If you're a Taylor or Brickfield's undergraduate, please proceed to open ur own thread about it . This is about MMU law only. Thank you .



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