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skiddtrader
post Dec 27 2007, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Dec 27 2007, 12:20 AM)
for friend sake, noway will declare a $12 dividend for every 100share very soon slowly but surely
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Please explain, what do you mean?


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post Jan 14 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 14 2008, 10:58 PM)
I believe the hedge foreign Funds are back in Malaysia. Now, they can do short selling of shares , right ? ( correct me if i am wrong ). They did that in Year 1997. Do you expect them to be gentlemen this time ?
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As far as I know, Bursa has banned short selling in Malaysia stock market. Only in futures you can short, but not in the normal stock market.
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post Jan 15 2008, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 15 2008, 07:35 AM)
Can someone please explain what listed companies do with their treasury shares ( shares bought back from open mkt ) ?

a) Distribute back to existing shareholders as windfall ?
b) Re sell back to market for new investment purpose ?
c) just cancel  the shares ?

If a & b are workable, it may cause the share price to surge. Also the question of when.

I notice BTOTO is holding these shares. They may want to improve their public image by benefiting the existing shareholders.They are also in the business of buying and selling companies ( DIGI & Prudential  for example). What is the general practice adopted by other listed companies in Malaysia?

Anyone out there cares to share ? Thank you in advance.
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a) is most likely. By using their spare cash to buy back their own shares to distribute back to their shareholders as dividends. For example, YTLPOWR recently distributed their treasury shares, 1 share for every 25 shares held which is about 4% dividend worth. Most companies do not buy more than 10% of it's outstanding shares on the market. This has a dilution effect on the market because when they bought it for treasury share, they are taking the share out of the market, therefore increasing it's value. By giving back to their shareholder, therefore diluting the value again.

b) Unlikely, because the reason why they buy back their share with their spare cash is because they don't have anything better to do with it at the moment. By selling back to the market, not only are they diluting back the share again, the amount they hold could prove difficult to get enough buyers to not cause the share price to crash. Liquidity issue.

c) it's possible but the option of canceling shares is to improve the counter's EPS or PER. By distributing the shares to their shareholders which is directly better rather than to indirectly make their share more valuable by raising EPS. But useful for companies that has a lot of ESOS which dilutes share prices. To compensate, some companies buy back their shares according to ESOS and cancel it so the shareholders don't get pissed off at the company.


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post Jan 16 2008, 09:33 AM

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Respect to PBBANK and LPI, although KLCI start the day with -29 points, shareholders still confident with both shares. Only the recent counters being goreng dropping like stone! rclxms.gif
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post Jan 21 2008, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(TopGunn @ Jan 21 2008, 06:28 PM)

**Should be good news for MayBank share holders right, why the share price drop today?
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Bonus issue does not actually add any value to the share other than to make it more cheaper because of extra shares. Share prices will be adjusted lower according to the additional shares added to the market. So by right, the share should not increase or decrease based on this news.
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post Jan 31 2008, 11:14 PM

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Yeah you have to take into account the moment the accountings are done, anyone who has seen the profits from the lowly accounting clerk to the auditor will know at least 1 month before the actual announcement how much the company is making profit.

So normally you can see some counters who are about to announce high dividends or special dividends tend to have high volume because the some people are buying up based on the insider news.
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post Mar 4 2008, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Merubin @ Mar 4 2008, 11:16 AM)
Hello Guys,
I m a little confuse from the star dividen section
BAT showing

Final 15¢ + 62.90¢ single-tier TE

what is single tier TE and lets say now i get 100 unit. How much will i get? for the dividen?
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I believe the 15 sens need to minus 27% tax but the 62.90 sens no need. So total maybe 73.85 sens per share.

If you have 100 shares, means it's RM0.7385 x 100 = RM73.85
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Merubin @ Mar 4 2008, 05:50 PM)
what does it means by single-tier TE?
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Single tier 'Tax Exempt".

I'm not going to bother explaining the single tier system as I think it really is not well thought out yet. You can read about it more when you Google for it. Basically whenever you see this Single Tier Tax Exempt, means you get a tax free dividend (without having to pay 27% in advance).
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post Mar 5 2008, 03:01 PM

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Wah look at BKAWAN. Nice discount at the moment.
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post Mar 15 2008, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Princess001 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:51 PM)
Hi , what do u guys think about uchitec? can still give good dividends or not? hmmmm, how come O&G counters don't have high dividends ah?
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UCHITEC seems to have a consistent dividend payout with consistent special dividends as well. I have not read their Annual report though so I don't really know how sustainable their business is, but their 5 year performance looks good so far.

Regarding O&G counters, SHELL is one of the best dividend paying counters I know of. Not too sure with the others who are more involve with servicing the O&G industry like Dialog etc.
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post May 18 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(kinweng81 @ May 18 2008, 02:43 PM)
Which approach u prefer and why?

Option A: Invest in long term to gain dividend thru out long long period (Ex: BJTOTO)

Option B: Speculate short term stock that annouce dividend payout. Buy good price after the dividend annouced period and Sell fast after ex-date.
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No use for option B because by the time the dividend is announced, most likely the price already pushed up. For short time, sell it when dividends announced not after ex-date. This way you get the dividends from the price appreciation without the tax.

This post has been edited by skiddtrader: May 18 2008, 03:19 PM
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post Oct 10 2008, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Oct 10 2008, 08:56 AM)
With 1k in hand you are not enuff to buy any dividend stock...
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Well I wouldn't say not enough, but the costs of buying the stock with such a small amount may make the dividend payouts looks small and comparable to the amount of charges you pay for the initial transaction. But if you can forget that initial fee, then keep it for a long time. The % amount you earn from your RM1k in a high dividend yield counter is definitely better than fixed Deposit. But the risks of capital depreciation (share drops) is there.
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post Oct 15 2008, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 15 2008, 10:35 PM)
Ha! Ha! Not exactly. My friend shared this finding with me.

He's a conversative investor. He said that the dividend payout by AMWAY is quite good.
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AMWAY is a good dividend counter. Lots of cash and very stable consumer counter. They have a loyal customer base as well.
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post Oct 16 2008, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Oct 16 2008, 08:10 AM)
WTA... in order to enjoy the dividend, 1 should at least invest for more than 1 yr is it? or if i invest near the pay out moment still applicable to enjoy?
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To answer your question. No, you do not need to hold for 1 year to qualify for dividends. You can buy 1 day before the dividend allocation or ex-date and you will still receive it.

But bear in mind that a dividend announcement will precede it's ex-date which means the stock will already move up higher and take into account the dividend payout. So if you buy after the announcement, it will be at an inflated price.
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post Jan 13 2009, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Jan 13 2009, 04:31 PM)
So public bank, let's say if at today's 9.7, 1 lot of 100 shares.
How much will I get in 2009(if how frequent this year is unkown, then could use last year's example)?? please explain..
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We can't predict accurately what dividend they will give. If the share prices drop to a low of RM5.00 in the middle of the year, definitely you won't be getting RM1.00 dividends as normally they try to relate it to the price.

But from past dividends we can predict the % compared to the share price at the time of announcement.

So if the % dividend for PB is for example consistently 8-10%, and the share price stay steady at about RM9.70. You can expect around 0.80 - 0.97 sens dividends a share. If they continue to make money of course.

All these are just examples, please do your own homework about the dividends yields of stocks and counters you are interested in.


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post Jan 13 2009, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:14 PM)
skid, i assume that is just an assumption, yeah.

cause from my understanding, PBBANK div yeild is approx 7-8% only. of course, it also depends on your cost. those who bought it during 90's, sure could easily achieve 10% or more DY.

analyst speculated PBBANK is giving 45 sens dividend plus 50 treasuries shares.

will see what's their announcement by next week then biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I'm just giving an example.

50 treasury shares is a lot eh. 50 for how many shares held?
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post Oct 8 2009, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(rayloo @ Oct 7 2009, 09:57 PM)
This is a very interesting idea, WB I am not sure, maybe under his pillow.  biggrin.gif But if I were you to have RM250K now, I would allocate some in ASM or ASW, REITs, and some to speculate property in cash term plus some in FD. Maybe other sifus have better idea to share ?

You can have those P/E from newspaper stock page.
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Hmmm if not mistaken, at one time WB's company Berkshire had almost USD40 bil of cash which was not in use. His shareholders and analyst complained about it because they say it is not generating income. I believe his answer to them was something in the line of there wasn't anything good which was worth buying at current prices. And that he rather not buy anything than buying something he might regret later on.


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post Nov 7 2009, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Nov 7 2009, 10:59 AM)
Hi guys, I am about to make my first buy in dividend stocks. So could I be kindly pointed the way to do my due diligence? I don't know where they hide their prospectus or earning stuff or things I need to look for. Pls do point to me what I need to look out for good buys and bad buys (goodbyes). Thanks. Right now I only know tobacco and alcohol companies are better buys.
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You can learn a lot from investopedia.com which is a great site for reference as well as education for anything related to finance/stocks/funds etc.
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post Mar 1 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(myfriend2009 @ Mar 1 2010, 12:12 AM)
Entitlement Type: Interim Dividend
Entitlement Date and Time: 19/03/2010 05:00 PM
Year Ending/Period Ending/Ended Date: 31/12/2009
EX Date: 17/03/2010
To SCANS Date:
Payment Date: 15/04/2010

Share transfer book & register of members will be closed from 22/03/2010 to 23/03/2010 (both dates inclusive) for the purpose of determining the entitlements

A Depositor shall qualify for the entitlement in respect of:
- Securities transferred into the Depositor's Securities Account before 19/03/2010 04:00 PM in respect of ordinary transfers.
- Securities transferred into the Depositor's Securities Account before in respect of express transfers.
- Securities deposited into the Depositor's Securities Account before 17/03/2010 12:30 PM in respect of securities exempted from mandatory deposit.
- Securities not withdrawn from the Depositor's Securities Account as at .
- Securities bought on BMSB on a cum entitlement basis according to the Rules of the BMSB.

I need to buy this share before 17/03/2010 right to get dividend right? When I can sell it? Can I sell after 20th march 2010 or do I need to sell it after the payment date? I need some help
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You can sell it on 17th March itself and still get the dividend.
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post Mar 2 2010, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(sohkeong @ Mar 2 2010, 12:32 AM)
specific time? before 12pm or sell after 12pm only entitle ? or any time also entitle
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Anytime on the 17th, as the price will be adjusted already.

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