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post Dec 24 2007, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 24 2007, 02:01 PM)
even though got tax
u can claim back ma
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exactly biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2007, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 24 2007, 11:37 AM)
oh is it? but even i deducted the 27% tax, BJTOTO still wins  rolleyes.gif
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Bjtoto actually was a good counter with high yield. But its inter-company loan (hundred of millions) issue back 2000 (around that time, forget which year already) did make a lot fund managers stay out of this counters last time out. That's why its share hardly much much since after that. It was a Rm7-8 counter back then. The inter-company loan only settled after so many years.




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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 24 2007, 02:04 PM)
exactly biggrin.gif
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Starting 2008, all dividend no tax liaw, so which one do u think is better dividend payer leh??

I also wanna keep so high dividend yield counters.

Lets buy together, earn together, .....smile.gif
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Dec 24 2007, 12:26 PM)
i'm still confused on this, TAX EXEMPT status..

why do some company dividend, tax exempt, while others have to pay tax?
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Those dividend can be tax exempted because it has tax credit or the profit/money derived is from capital/asset appreciation not from business activities.


Added on December 24, 2007, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Dec 24 2007, 02:26 PM)
Starting 2008, all dividend no tax liaw, so which one do u think is better dividend payer leh??

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It actually being taxed more leh, not actually no tax. Kind of mislead if said no tax.

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post Dec 24 2007, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 24 2007, 02:33 PM)
Those dividend can be tax exempted because it has tax credit or the profit/money derived is from capital/asset appreciation not from business activities.


Added on December 24, 2007, 2:33 pm

It actually being taxed more leh, not actually no tax. Kind of mislead if said no tax.
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thank cherroy..

you are very helpful...

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post Dec 24 2007, 02:37 PM

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For dividend play, I mixed bag with some Reits counters as well. Bought some more in last Friday and today as well.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 24 2007, 02:37 PM)
For dividend play, I mixed bag with some Reits counters as well. Bought some more in last Friday and today as well.
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Dear cherroy, i heard often about Reits. But do not know what exactly it is, can explain a bit pls?
1. What is this?
2. Buy and Sell is it same procedure as normaly counters?
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check this out for what is REIT

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/479946

and what counters are investors favourite picks smile.gif
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Added on December 24, 2007, 2:33 pm

It actually being taxed more leh, not actually no tax. Kind of mislead if said no tax.
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I heard with this new "no tax" system, the high income and low income will have similar impact as far as dividend is concern.
"old sytem" low income benefit more.
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Dec 24 2007, 03:14 PM)

Added on December 24, 2007, 2:33 pm

It actually being taxed more leh, not actually no tax. Kind of mislead if said no tax.
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I heard with this new "no tax" system, the high income and low income will have similar impact as far as dividend is concern.
"old sytem" low income benefit more.
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It hurt the lower income group and beneficiary to top income group. All are taxed at 26% regardless of your tax bracket.

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Merry X'Mas to all!
Actually...how do you check the 'high dividen yield' counters? Can i refer to the dividen yield (DY) section of stocks quoted from the star newspaper? Shall i look at the PE as well when selecting?

I can see some >10 DY....is this for real? or maybe for that particular years and not consistent? Can you all pls advise me regarding this???

btw....how bout Yilai, Mamee, Hovid and KAF (some high DY as taken fr newspaper).....are these good dividen counters?

Njoy urself today....prepare for the big day again tomorrow! DJ green green grass again....Santa's present!
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:28 PM

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This guy play only dividend stocks :-
http://www.wealth-trade.blogspot.com/
Take a look of his portfolio.
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:59 PM

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is Dlady good?
because total dividen give last year was 68sen
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post Dec 25 2007, 01:14 PM

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any idea let say i buy 1x100 of the amway how much dividen i can get in a year i does not really know how to calculate(tougly from previsous year calculation will do)
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 25 2007, 11:44 AM)
Merry X'Mas to all!
Actually...how do you check the 'high dividen yield' counters? Can i refer to the dividen yield (DY) section of stocks quoted from the star newspaper? Shall i look at the PE as well when selecting?

I can see some >10 DY....is this for real? or maybe for that particular years and not consistent? Can you all pls advise me regarding this???

btw....how bout Yilai, Mamee, Hovid and KAF (some high DY as taken fr newspaper).....are these good dividen counters?

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Some company did declare some special dividend which is one off, won't repeatable, so becareful of this kind of outliar data. To get consistently dividend throughout, one must look at the dividend that derived from its earning.
Dividend generated from capital gain of asset disposal, capital repayment should be treated as some bonuses, don't take into the primary consideration for dividend yield play. Always look for its earning to see whether the dividend policy is sustainable or not.


QUOTE(tkwfriend @ Dec 25 2007, 01:14 PM)
any idea let say i buy 1x100 of the amway how much dividen i can get in a year i does not really know how to calculate(tougly from previsous year calculation will do)
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Amway gave away 52.50 cents based on last year financial calendar ended 2007 one. So with 1x100, you get Rm52.50 before tax.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 25 2007, 05:00 PM)
Some company did declare some special dividend which is one off, won't repeatable, so becareful of this kind of outliar data. To get consistently dividend throughout, one must look at the dividend that derived from its earning.
Dividend generated from capital gain of asset disposal, capital repayment should be treated as some bonuses, don't take into the primary consideration for dividend yield play. Always look for its earning to see whether the dividend policy is sustainable or not.
Amway gave away 52.50 cents based on last year financial calendar ended 2007 one. So with 1x100, you get Rm52.50 before tax.
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I thought it was 55sen ???
19 Nov 2007 AMWAY 3th Quarter Interim Div. 7.5 sen per share & Sp. Interim Div. 25 sen per share 30 Nov 2007 18 Dec 2007 4 Dec 2007
20 Aug 2007 AMWAY Interim Dividend 7.5 Sen 3 Sep 2007 20 Sep 2007 5 Sep 2007
3 May 2007 AMWAY First quarter interim dividend of 7.5 sen per share 16 May 2007 1 Jun 2007 18 May 2007
12 Feb 2007 AMWAY interim dividend of 7.5 sen per share less tax 1 Mar 2007 20 Mar 2007 5 Mar 2007
Add up all of the above....
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QUOTE(smartly @ Dec 25 2007, 08:32 PM)
I thought it was 55sen ???
19 Nov 2007  AMWAY  3th Quarter Interim Div. 7.5 sen per share & Sp. Interim Div. 25 sen per share 30 Nov 2007 18 Dec 2007 4 Dec 2007
20 Aug 2007  AMWAY  Interim Dividend 7.5 Sen 3 Sep 2007 20 Sep 2007 5 Sep 2007
3 May 2007  AMWAY  First quarter interim dividend of 7.5 sen per share 16 May 2007 1 Jun 2007 18 May 2007
12 Feb 2007  AMWAY  interim dividend of 7.5 sen per share less tax 1 Mar 2007 20 Mar 2007 5 Mar 2007
Add up all of the above....
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I was taking in financial year end 31Dec2007 one for the calculation. Not this year.



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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 26 2007, 08:42 AM)
I was taking in financial year end 31Dec2007 one for the calculation. Not this year.
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Oh...That was suppose to be 31Dec2006 not 31Dec2007 as mentioned above...
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post Dec 26 2007, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Dec 26 2007, 10:50 AM)
Oh...That was suppose to be 31Dec2006 not 31Dec2007 as mentioned above...
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Opps, may be I messed up already. Too much holiday in between recently. Thanks for the correction.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 24 2007, 01:16 PM)
don't mind me asking you, how many AMWAY shares do you keep? smile.gif
ahh tobacco & alcohol counters!
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As of now, I have not invested any in AMWAY as I am still considering if I should invest in these dividend stocks.
Most of my money is invested in lower liners, TENAGA and UT.
If I am to invest in dividend stocks, AMWAY will be my choice smile.gif

QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 24 2007, 02:01 PM)
even though got tax
u can claim back ma
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As of next January onwards, no more claiming back on tax unless the company opt to do so.
So, we are actually on the losing edge if we choose non TE counters.

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