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post Jun 8 2012, 10:59 AM

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I always refer to the dividend yield of the share and compare that with FD rates.

No point referring to dividend paid becuase how much returns you get is always relative to what you put in.

With the exception of REITS, stocks like Digi, Carlsberg give very good and CONSISTENT returns.

The emphasis here is CONSISTENCY i.e. they allocate significant amount of profits for dividend payments and have been doing it for at least 5 to 10 years. If the stocks meet these criteria then only I buy.

By the way, I did not buy AsiAsia for the dividends, it is an interesting and promising business, but no strong div track record.

Personally I don't really like REITs quite difficult to sell, trade volumes are very low.

... my 2 cents ....

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QUOTE(gc68 @ Jun 8 2012, 10:59 AM)
I always refer to the dividend yield of the share and compare that with FD rates.

No point referring to dividend paid becuase how much returns you get is always relative to what you put in.

With the exception of REITS, stocks like Digi, Carlsberg give very good and CONSISTENT returns.

The emphasis here is CONSISTENCY i.e. they allocate significant amount of profits for dividend payments and have been doing it for at least 5 to 10 years. If the stocks meet these criteria then only I buy.

By the way, I did not buy AsiAsia for the dividends, it is an interesting and promising business, but no strong div track record.

Personally I don't really like REITs quite difficult to sell, trade volumes are very low.

... my 2 cents ....
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QUOTE(gc68 @ Jun 8 2012, 10:59 AM)
I always refer to the dividend yield of the share and compare that with FD rates.

No point referring to dividend paid becuase how much returns you get is always relative to what you put in.

With the exception of REITS, stocks like Digi, Carlsberg give very good and CONSISTENT returns.

The emphasis here is CONSISTENCY i.e. they allocate significant amount of profits for dividend payments and have been doing it for at least 5 to 10 years. If the stocks meet these criteria then only I buy.

By the way, I did not buy AsiAsia for the dividends, it is an interesting and promising business, but no strong div track record.

Personally I don't really like REITs quite difficult to sell, trade volumes are very low.

... my 2 cents ....
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I'm interested to see some of your dividend stocks. Wish you may share some. Thanks!! notworthy.gif
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post Jun 8 2012, 08:04 PM

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Guys what your take on the BjToto special dividend payout? notworthy.gif

BjToto up on resuming trade

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post Jun 8 2012, 08:43 PM

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Some reading on dividend stuff:


a) If a company is not paying a dividend, with Efficient Market Theory, the company is going to pay a dividend eventually, so the price of its share reflects these future terms

b) If a company never going to pay dividend, why would people want to invest into it?

c) It is common for a young company not to pay dividends.

d) The value of company is associated with its activities, and if the company never pay a dividend, why would you care about what they are doing.

e) You care about company activities, as some how, the company going to pay you dividend.





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post Jun 8 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jun 8 2012, 08:04 PM)
Guys what your take on the BjToto special dividend payout?  notworthy.gif

BjToto up on resuming trade

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20% dilution equals 86 sen? And you get 45 sen special dividend as return? hmm.gif


Added on June 8, 2012, 9:13 pm
QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 8 2012, 08:43 PM)
d) The value of company is associated with its activities, and if the company never pay a dividend, why would you care about what they are doing.
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Before this year, Apple had not paid dividend for more than a decade. Why won't investors still care about it?
It is about capital gain cool2.gif

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post Jun 8 2012, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 8 2012, 09:11 PM)
20% dilution equals 86 sen? And you get 45 sen special dividend as return?  hmm.gif


Added on June 8, 2012, 9:13 pm

Before this year, Apple had not paid dividend for more than a decade. Why won't investors still care about it?
It is about capital gain  cool2.gif
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Only if you sell them, then you get the money, else still in paper

, the point is when to sell it..... and if you were to sell it, then when u going to buy back again, as the company continue not to pay dividend, the share price still going up...


unless you hold it forever, and yet one day you still need to sell it to get the gain...... or one day the company start to give dividend, then you can get some money back in your pocket.... else still on paper....



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post Jun 8 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 8 2012, 09:20 PM)
Only if you sell them, then you get the money, else still in paper

, the point is when to sell it..... and if you were to sell it, then when u going to buy back again, as the company continue not to pay dividend, the share price still going up...
unless you hold it forever, and yet one day you still need to sell it to get the gain...... or one day the company start to give dividend, then you can get some money back in your pocket.... else still on paper....
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6 fold in 4 years...
even if selling it off to get the gain is tempting, with that kind of capital appreciation i am pretty sure nobody will ever sell it off given a choice... blush.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jun 8 2012, 10:41 PM)
6 fold in 4 years...
even if selling it off to get the gain is tempting, with that kind of capital appreciation i am pretty sure nobody will ever sell it off given a choice... blush.gif
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The best is both capital appreciation and dividends. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 11 2012, 11:50 PM

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The best is both capital appreciation and dividends.  biggrin.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 8 2012, 08:43 PM)
Some reading on dividend stuff:
a) If a company is not paying a dividend, with Efficient Market Theory, the company is going to pay a dividend eventually, so the price of its share reflects these future terms

b) If a company never going to pay dividend, why would people want to invest into it?

c) It is common for a young company not to pay dividends.

d) The value of company is associated with its activities, and if the company never pay a dividend, why would you care about what they are doing.

e) You care about company activities, as some how, the company going to pay you dividend.
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Whether is there going to be dividend depends on the industry and the stage of the company.

Companies that give high dividends are usually the matured industries and have been around for many many years.

The growth rates of these "old industries" are low but very stable. As such, good dividend policies is used to attract investors.

The important thing is consitency in earnings growth (may not be big growth but consistent in the past 10 years minimum) and good PE ratio i.e. less than 15.

Better still if the NTA is higher than stock price (but rarely happens tho).
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QUOTE(gc68 @ Jun 12 2012, 12:11 PM)
Whether is there going to be dividend depends on the industry and the stage of the company.

Companies that give high dividends are usually the matured industries and have been around for many many years.

The growth rates of these "old industries" are low but very stable. As such, good dividend policies is used to attract investors.

The important thing is  consitency in earnings growth (may not be big growth but consistent in the past 10 years minimum) and good PE ratio i.e. less than 15.

Better still if the NTA is higher than stock price (but rarely happens tho).
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Let's take Genting, it should be categorized under established company,then why they give only peanut dividend......

If Genting start to pay good dividend, i am sure, the price will gone up crazy smile.gif

correct me if i am wrong ....as nowadays very hard to find good dividend company


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post Jun 13 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 12 2012, 08:04 PM)
Let's take Genting, it should be categorized under established company,then why they give only peanut dividend......

If Genting start to pay good dividend, i am sure, the price will gone up crazy smile.gif

correct me if i am wrong ....as  nowadays very hard to find good dividend company
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Mature companies are generous in paying dividend, provided that they are profitable.
Genting is still expanding. I believe they keep the cash for expansion. The latest news is that it is seeking to acquire Echo Entertainment of Australia...

Genting takes stake in Echo
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 12 2012, 08:04 PM)
Let's take Genting, it should be categorized under established company,then why they give only peanut dividend......

If Genting start to pay good dividend, i am sure, the price will gone up crazy smile.gif

correct me if i am wrong ....as  nowadays very hard to find good dividend company
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normally defensive stock give good dividend

so good examples are BAT, nestle, dutchlady, carlsberg ... most are consumer stock

people still smoke even jobless, kids still need to drink milk even their father has pay cut ...

may be you say they are expensive now but bear in mind they so expensive now also because they pay good dividend

stock that give good dividend tend to move up fast








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QUOTE(Ken @ Jun 13 2012, 09:20 AM)
normally defensive stock give good dividend

so good examples are BAT, nestle, dutchlady, carlsberg ... most are consumer stock

people still smoke even jobless, kids still need to drink milk even their father has pay cut ... 

may be you say they are expensive now but bear in mind they so expensive now also because they pay good dividend

stock that give good dividend tend to move up fast
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The so called "tua tua liap" (big one)

No expensive, no buy laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Jun 13 2012, 09:20 AM)
so good examples are BAT, nestle, dutchlady, carlsberg ... most are consumer stock
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These companies have little competition in the market. Milk market I think is Nestle-Dutch Lady duopoly. As for liquor, until we drink Tsingtao Beer, sake etc, Carlsberg and GAB will do well.
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Coca Cola, Verizon and AT&T.

Starhub too. smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jun 13 2012, 10:21 PM)
Coca Cola, Verizon and AT&T.

Starhub too.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 13 2012, 10:40 PM)
Do you DRIP your US stocks?
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Nope. I dun.

But sometimes, I will average down when the prices drop.
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jun 13 2012, 10:47 PM)
Nope. I dun.

But sometimes, I will average down when the prices drop.
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