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 Investing in US stocks, Does anyone know how?

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debbieyss
post Apr 15 2009, 01:44 PM

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hi, just want to ask something:

I'm planning to invest Futures in US, my brother will be staying there for his study. I wonder if it is possible to let my brother withdraw the money from the bank account which I'm using in US, and is it possible for him to withdraw the money any time at his own convenience?

Also, if he withdraws the money from this bank account and spend the money in US, will there be any commissions charged?
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post Apr 15 2009, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 15 2009, 10:18 PM)
Err... what do you mean by 'Futures'?  Are these Stocks, Bonds, CDs (aka 'Fixed Deposits' in Malaysia), Mutual Funds (aka 'Unit Trusts')? What exactly?  I mean 'Futures' investments products are so damn generic here.

You mentioned 'bank account', is this just a 'Saving Account' that is somehow tied to your investments products listed above?

If it is your money, you have the right to withdraw anytime.. the only thing one has to worry is the banks may charge you a fee before the maturing dates or if have any gains (if it is dividends), Uncle Sam may want its portion for taxes.
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hi danmooncake,
thanks for your reply, been waiting for few days smile.gif

Well, despite what kind of investment tool I'm having in US, whatever investment I'm going to have in US, i will save all the money into a bank account.

My concern is my brother may be studying in US, I wonder if it's possible to open a saving account in US, which allows my brother withdrawing the money from this account at his convenience, without me being there.

Perhaps, I should open a joint saving account with my brother in order to let him withdraw money from this account?

Is it possible to apply and open a saving account in US via internet?
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post Apr 16 2009, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 16 2009, 11:15 AM)
Oh.. I see.  If your bro is going to be studying in US, of course it is possible to open a savings acct.

It was possible to open a saving account via Internet BEFORE 9/11 but now,.. it is virtually impossible.
The US Patriot Act now requires physical id and presence.

Your bro MUST BE physically be there to open a bank account (in traditional brick and mortar) bank.  Your bro (assuming he's on student visa) MUST ALSO first obtain the US Social Security Number (aka Tax ID), before he can open a bank account.  To open a joint account, you must also be physically presence in US.  The person with the US SSN will be the primary account holder. With the US SSN, your bro can open a investment account for stocks trading as well. If your bro is on student visa only, he's considered non-resident, therefore no tax withholding for capital gains.  nod.gif
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danmooncake, thanks for your reply, it's so helpful to me.

In that case, me and my brother may need to arrange a day and fly to US to open a bank account.

I just wonder, what about UK and Hong Kong? Actually, my brother is having 3 options, either study in US, UK or Hong Kong. That's why I need to know all the banking rules for each of the countries so that I can prepare earlier.

May I know what about UK and Hong Kong? Different countries but with the same questions as mentioned in the post below:

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Well, despite what kind of investment tool I'm having in US, whatever investment I'm going to have in US, i will save all the money into a bank account.

My concern is my brother may be studying in US, I wonder if it's possible to open a saving account in US, which allows my brother withdrawing the money from this account at his convenience, without me being there.

Perhaps, I should open a joint saving account with my brother in order to let him withdraw money from this account?

Is it possible to apply and open a saving account in US via internet?

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post Apr 16 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 16 2009, 11:56 AM)
Sorry, I do not know the banking rules in UK or Hong Kong.

But, if you know the banks that you wanted to do business, feel free to call or email them.
Today, with the Internet, it is relatively easy to talk to foreign banks/investments brokerage customer service rep and ask questions without being physically presence.

For example: I managed to open an investment account with E-Trade without stepping a foot in US soil. Just through email and skype (for cheap phone calls).

you mean you manage to talk to US bank via email and skype, and got an account opened? Was it before 911?

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post Apr 16 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Apr 16 2009, 12:58 PM)
Deb, dun think u need to fly all the way just to open a bank acc.
U can get your bro to open his own bank acc when he is there and u just TT the funds over. If U wanna transfer the investment funds over, then just make sure the investment acc is under your bro's name so that the funds can be transfer into it.

Else if u have 200k, go HSBC Malaysia, open their premier acc. If not mistaken, they will help u open a US HSBC acc.
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ok got it.

I have another 2 questions:

1. What about UK and HOng Kong banking rules? Can i also apply HSBC's premier acc then they can help me to open UK and HK acc?

2. Another point, I prefer joint account, is it possible? If the bank account has only my brother's name, that means I can't withdraw money when I'm in US someday.

Hope to hear from you, thanks a lot!
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post Apr 16 2009, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Apr 16 2009, 08:39 PM)
ermm not sure about any countries banking rules but i think ya...hsbc can open for u uk and hk acc also. Gib them a call to enquire more.

ermm...not sure about joint acc. But i guess u can use your bro's atm card when u r in the state? Or open 1 when u r there, and ask him to transfer funds to your bank acn? I guess try hsbc...maybe they r ok wif joint acn. Not sure too biggrin.gif
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ok.

Thanks for information.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 17 2009, 08:27 AM)
To clarify, I have emailed and talked (via skype) to banks in US but unfortunately, not able to open a new bank account without physical presence. They said that's the rule after 9/11.

I've talked to Investment Brokerages (eg. E-Trade and Ameritrade) - no problem opening an account with one of them for trading stocks because they are not a bank. They allow foreigners to buy/trade stocks. Just file the proper paperwork and TT them the money into your account.

FYI. A US Bank Savings Account is not the same as an Investment Account.
Bank deposits are guaranteed by US FDIC (kinda like an semi-govt insurance company),
and stocks equities ownership are guaranteed by SIPC (as legal custodian, not their value).

Some investment brokerage accounts do have a pseudo-savings-account feature.. they call it Money Market,
which give you interests (very little) if you have Cash balance. One can definitely treat this like a saving
account if you wish and can withdraw anytime.

Btw, right now, with such low interest rates, no point opening a saving account in US for purpose of saving.

Better open an investment account directly with license brokerage and you can buy those good value blue
chip stocks. There are risks of course... but now, good stocks out-perform the interests that you can get from any banks in this beaten down market.  laugh.gif
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danmooncake, thanks for your reply. laugh.gif

Mind to introduce some investment banks in US? I may just send them the necessary documents and TT the money.

How can I contact the license brokerage?
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 17 2009, 09:56 AM)
Careful there.. I wrote Investment BROKERAGES, not BANKS.  whistling.gif 
(BANKS are different beast)

Go to the beginning of this thread and read a few pages..you can spot those companies names
posted by forumers who have successfully opened accounts with them.

Google their web site and find the contact info.
Then, just email or contact via their web page contact form or simply call them on the listed phone numbers.
Buy some Skype credits. this is best way to call US on the pennies.

Also look for this SIPC logo:
user posted image
Read up on all the requirements (esp. if they cater for non-US residents) and make sure you understand all the fees structure before you sign on the dotted line and send them back the docs.

Come back and post question here if you don't understand the materials they've asked for. 

Before you start to trade any equities, make sure you understand all the risks involved.  nod.gif
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Thanks for your reply!

Noted, I will have a look then.

Let me do research then I will post up questions, if I have any. Thanks again. smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2009, 08:56 PM

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if KNM showing poor volitility, i want to trade in US or HK...sad.gif
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post Sep 11 2009, 09:30 PM

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Can you describe the feeling of roller coaster more in details?

The price range it fluctuates?
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post Sep 11 2009, 09:40 PM

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I have only Rm10k, what are the stocks i can go for? I don't mind holding as long as it grows. My maximum holding would be 2 years.

Any suggestion?
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post Sep 11 2009, 09:47 PM

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I have only Rm10k, what are the stocks i can go for? I don't mind holding as long as it grows. My maximum holding would be 2 years.

Any suggestion?
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post Sep 11 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(mH3nG @ Sep 11 2009, 09:57 PM)
I'm longing C myself. I'm hoping it can recover back to USD30 in 3-5 years time.
It's a long shot but anything can happen in a few years time.  smile.gif
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what is the "C" you mean?

Sorry, noob of US market...

QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 11 2009, 09:59 PM)
Debbie, you can go for ETF but don't touch the 2x or 3x like Direxion and powershares.

Use simple ETF (which against a basket of selected companies)

Visit here for more understanding

http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/energy-etfs
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ya, i'm reading...
hopefully i have studied well on US market before the next recession early next year, then i can just jump into the market...

QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 11 2009, 10:23 PM)
bloody h3ll :

AMD keep on raising, and super stock today is VG. After hiding in cave for few days, now come out and in play again.

David, KLSE is getting boring every single day. No much action. Star performer is CIMB as always.
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star performer is CIMB because of N***b whistling.gif
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Sep 11 2009, 10:51 PM)
I am getting thoroughly sick and tired with KLSE.
I get more fun (and money) from the FTSE
I also trade fine wines on Livex (http://www.liv-ex.com/)
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David, everytime i see you guys' stocks are not moving, i also feel sick of KLSE laugh.gif

Futures is better than stocks i think
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 11 2009, 11:09 PM)
Im gradually getting out of KLSE. for 2 weeks, my holding been stagnant. moving up and down in 2cts region. What a shItty performance.
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2 cents only?

that's .... doh.gif
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:39 PM

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Dj isn't performing well today.
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 11 2009, 11:34 PM)
I will enter probably 100 or 200 shares once its back to 25 level. smile.gif

yes, hell yes , better than that crappy fugly msports .
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zaman, mind to share which brokerage firm are you using?
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post Sep 11 2009, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 11 2009, 11:47 PM)
debbiesys - what brokerage are you using for KLSE stocks? Some of them allow you to trade NYSE stocks too.
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Hong Leong. I know Hong Leong allows us to trade NYSE
Just curious to know only
Initially I thought we in Malaysia have to get brokerage in US to trade US stocks tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2009, 12:12 AM

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zaman, one thing i'm still blur.
Bursa has recently changed the transaction price according to how much you are buying, something like that, which I personally think that it's quite unfair to those who can purchase more.
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DJ -36% now

hm.. i should short-sell on Monday then...

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