I think, no different with my 9 months old LMST. RM75, can go around 400km. I drive average 120-130km/h, with high rev to 5-6k rpm.Change exhaust system somemore.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Dec 18 2007, 12:14 AM

u shud be happy
my dad wira only do 325km from RM70 petrol
0.215sen/km

i tot the fc is control by the style u drive....rev all the way..or..proper driving...no?as mine full tank can exceed more than 380km i think...

This post has been edited by sucka3: Dec 17 2007, 11:26 PM

this saga since its carbie needs to be in tiptop tuning all the while in order to save fuel. use 10w40 oil instead of 20w50. fuel filter is rm6-8..every 40k km replace lah, since so cheap.

the fastest proton car in the world

lol....typo error nia....

kidding only ma.

don't take hard feeling~

sorry.. typo. Is 400km.

hehehe,just joking:P

just want to add:

my friend saga rm10 can get max 60km. sometime even 50km only..

mine iswara 2001 experience heavy FC also recently...
thnk possibly due the heavy tyres dunlop Formula D001.....

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petrol naik, fc naik......soon gona eat tanah

7 years old iswara aeroback
mine RM50 could go 320km
RM70 could go more than 400km for sure..
if i'm not mistaken could go up to 450-480km
city and highway driving...

Oh? I am diring Saga Manual 1.3 too, same with urs, n my fren bought a new Saga, oso same figure, so i think is normal la...

i do believe that city driving and also heavy right foot could coz high FC for saga....
if i drive like rev gila one damn sakit oo...
tried b4 but as for now rev up to 4k max is enough...
is emergency or in a rush only rev up to 6k
nvr tried up to 7k b4
but seen in the youtube all those guys doing it ...
Is it safe for 4G13 to rev up to 7k ? (stock car that is)

Last service on Aug'07 but i have yet to reach 5,000 km and i have change the back part of the exhaust paip

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Added on December 18, 2007, 8:37 amEventhough i off the aircond, i will not wind down the window.

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Added on December 18, 2007, 8:38 ammanual

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Added on December 18, 2007, 8:43 amDun u think it's a bit unreasonable? 1.3 liter engine + manual compare to other Toyota cars like Vios 1.5 liter + auto and Vios got better FC?

Malaysian car is a malaysian car... haih.. me a bit regretted to have purchased this car. Should have buy a Myvi.

This post has been edited by XfX: Dec 18 2007, 08:43 AM

IM USING 4G13 i guess i did that before, no worry u have rpm cut. when u reach to red line it wont let u go anymore futher and it wont hurt ur car badly but a bit of coz if u do it all da time.

my max while i drive fast 6k++ rpm

and yea my car used to drive 60RM 350 to 380km proton satria here. always 3k rpm to 5km rpm. [i cant drive slow]

city drive of coz.

and now dunno is my throllete body problem or else 60Rm 300km to 320km

but proton car around 300 to 350km is consider normal. cuz ton of people drivin gasoline mileage around there.

can over 340 that is happy news.

me also find my car trouble why suddenly gone 50km >.<

only thing to find out is change pipe and thollete body {SINCE KINDA SPOIL}
[cuz my car idle 700 to 1400rpm on aircorn, if off 700 to 1000Rpm too]

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xfx and ur question, 1st thing 1st. u compare both cars price [different right?] . and 2nd vios is below 1000kg, 3rd vvti more newer tech den our proton, 4th u are using siemen ECU [not mitsubishi] , all the technology is different. sure u can eat more den vios la. like last time i used to drive a4 audi 2.0T [2006] 130Rm can run 700km,

and myvi manual can run 60 to 70rm i forget can run below 500km i guess.. around 400 to 480km?

and myvi auto can run 320 to 360km.

better dun our member tried red line and burns some of his electronic components

arrr mayb is about the time LOL. but me never face it hahaha

My car also same .. LMST before my first tank only give me around 350km for RM80+ imagine that??? then now my car RM70 can go for 400km-430km if u go highway i can reach 480-500km on RM70+. So kinda reasonable my highway FC is compitable with my aunt Vios. Her Vios RM0.1400 sth.. my is like RM0.143 sth.

MyVI FC also not as good as u think car underpower becos of the MyVI body. THen more fuel to be burn. I would suggest u go for City IDSI if u got budget sell ur car and buy a City IDSI got power (compare to LMST) + low FC.

Some members is rite how would u compare carbie to EFI? Do u know wat is VVTI? VVTI use ECU to control the fuel injection. Where carbie use ur leg to control the fuel flow. if u wan ur FC better than Vios or City u must think better than ECU.

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Added on December 18, 2007, 12:22 pmsaga a/b got ECU meh?

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Dec 18 2007, 12:22 PM

my 4g13 wira drive to melaka from subang wif rm 50 petrol. 185 km (go into melaka and exit) + 150 km ( drive out from melaka , sesat in nilai 3 before come back to subang )

wif 4 passenger

185km + 150km = 335km

335/50 = rm0.067 / km

and i tot my fuel consumption is so high.. after reading this thread.. oh well.. mine still doing good i guess..

This post has been edited by stormyz: Dec 18 2007, 12:46 PM

For all you guys having FC problems, you should check the following
1. Is your engine leaky (i.e: Constantly loosing lube, white smoke, etc.)?
2. Your driving habits (redlining or late-shifting)
3. Car maintenance (type of lube used, service frequency).

If you have generally good maintenance habits & your car has little or no damage symptoms, I'll suggest cleaning the carb & retuning the AFR.

Carb cleaning can either be in the the form of a complete service, where you carb is taken apart, cleaned & re-assembled by a reputable mechanic or the simpler spray-cleaner technique (carb cleaner in a can).

As for re-tuning your AFR, please find a mechanic that owns & knows how to use a timing gun + emission analyzer, proper AFR tuning equipment. Most of the Proton service centers should have them.

My 2 cents

BTW, I get about 12.8KM/L or RM0.15/KM on a good day (mixed cycle). Given that my engine is already consuming a little black oil & the tuning is slightly off, I'd say it isn't too shabby

This post has been edited by GoldenHawk: Dec 18 2007, 01:56 PM