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post Dec 12 2007, 07:58 AM

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Hmm....maybe still need to go IP hunting? I'm presuming that this works with an IP with good connections?
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post Dec 12 2007, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Dec 12 2007, 07:08 AM)
1. Run Regedit
2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > System > CurrentControlSet > Services > Tcpip > Parameters > Interfaces
3. under Interfaces you open one of the folders (The one with your ip)
4. Right Click and New>DWORD Value
5. Change filename to TcpAckFrequency
6. Double-click TcpAckFrequency and fill in the value as 1.


That's it.
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tried it this morning but have to do it in a mess, was late for work. i only got 450++ lat. my usual lat without lowerping is around 350-600ms. with lowerping 250-350ms.

will do more test tonight. anyone got great results instantly?
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post Dec 12 2007, 10:24 AM

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I tried the changing registry thingy but so far doesn't make any difference for me. I tried with and without router in between the result is still the same.

I will try a few more times and post up my findings later.

This post has been edited by Dragnaut: Dec 12 2007, 10:32 AM
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post Dec 12 2007, 10:31 AM

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i used the registry hax thingy, lowers the latency slightly at least for me..
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post Dec 12 2007, 10:41 AM

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just use the linux VM method, its basically the registry hack, without affecting other applications such as downloads/video streams etc. and slightly better as it also "conditions" your tcp packets.

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some more additional notes:
linux actually handles TCP connections better so long you know how to tweak it via socat/iptables. not to mention it also doesnt have a lot of useless overheadings like most Windows based apps do.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2007, 10:52 AM
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post Dec 12 2007, 11:38 AM

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you know me, not so berani to go and change too many stuff on my PC.

registry changes were easy to make. will know tonite whether it works once connected to a good IP and more ppl are on.

to those that couldn't see any changes, did you guys hotfix your Windows recently? or update the service packs?
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post Dec 12 2007, 12:29 PM

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window xp can D.I.Y ?
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post Dec 12 2007, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 12 2007, 12:29 PM)
Once that is done click host then virtual network settings->click host virtual network mapping
for vMnet0 choose your network adaptor u connect to the net with then leave the rest as they are ->click ok.
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where can i find the host section ? dun seems any of it in my Vmware
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post Dec 12 2007, 01:24 PM

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I redid the Debian installation and got stuck at the APT part. I can't seem to DL all the packages that I need. What should I do to make the VM connect to the internet?

Set VMnet0 to my NIC that's connecting to the Internet
Network Connection: Bridged

This post has been edited by Vagabond: Dec 12 2007, 01:28 PM
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post Dec 12 2007, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(myremi @ Dec 12 2007, 11:38 AM)
you know me, not so berani to go and change too many stuff on my PC.

registry changes were easy to make. will know tonite whether it works once connected to a good IP and more ppl are on.

to those that couldn't see any changes, did you guys hotfix your Windows recently? or update the service packs?
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actually for the VM, there is even less risk involved as the only changes are occuring inside the VM, your OS is left untouched. so if you happen to wreak your linux apart for whatever reason, a fresh cd boot and its good as new lol.


Added on December 12, 2007, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(RapTalk @ Dec 12 2007, 01:06 PM)
where can i find the host section ? dun seems any of it in my Vmware
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its on the top tabs


Added on December 12, 2007, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(Vagabond @ Dec 12 2007, 01:24 PM)
I redid the Debian installation and got stuck at the APT part. I can't seem to DL all the packages that I need. What should I do to make the VM connect to the internet?

Set VMnet0 to my NIC that's connecting to the Internet
Network Connection: Bridged
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cant help you there since im using feather linux. ive compared both methods and i concluded that feather linux is more easier or linux noob proof (like me). not to mention that you need less additional apps/downloads/configurations etc.

basically once you get ur feather linux going in ur VM, all you need to do is type 2 lines of command in the console, and your done. just THAT simple.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2007, 02:14 PM
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post Dec 12 2007, 04:24 PM

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I hav try the VMlinux and registry hard to c the different since streamyx are lagging badly today.
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OK the VM / Linux stuff has proved unnecessary!

To get low pings with 2 simple registry hacks do the following (you need to do both settings for the maximum effect)

1 - TcpAckFrequency - NOTE if you are running Windows Vista this setting may not have any effect - a hotfix is needed is linked below. This works fine under Windows XP.

Thanks to Dedrin for locating the VISTA hotfixes needed to apply the TcpAckFrequency registry tweak (apply the hotfix then add the registry tweak):

Q u o t e:


For Vista users, you can download this hotfix from here.

Vista 32 bit - http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?showtopic=3265

Vista 64 bit - http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?showtopic=5976

You will have to register on that site to download it, but it is free and I have never received any kind of ads or spam from them. Pretty good site for Windows hotfixes that are generally unpublished to the public on any kind of widespread basis.

Cheers.



Now,

Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

Then find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\

There will be multiple NIC interfaces listed in there, find the one you use to connect to the internet, there will be several interfaces listed (they have long names like {7DBA6DCA-FFE8-4002-A28F-4D2B57AE8383}. Click each one, the right one will have lots of settings in it and you will see your machines IP address listed there somewhere. Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TcpAckFrequency, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

you can change it back to 2 (default) at a later stage if it affects your other TCP application performance. it tells windows how many TCP packets to wait before sending ACK. if the value is 1, windows will send ACK every time it receives a TCP package.

2 - TCPNoDelay
This one is usually pretty simple (see note)

Details: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserve...3.mspx?mfr=true

You should install the Microsoft Message Queuing Service. To do this go:

START > SETTINGS > CONTROL PANEL

Open up ADD OR REMOVE PROGRAMS

click ADD/REMOVE WINDOWS COMPONENTS

Scroll down the list that appears, and TICK the entry MESSAGE QUEUING and click NEXT. Message Queuing will now be installed. Once done its probably a good idea to restart. Once thats done then add the registry entry below

Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

Then find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Parameters

Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

Click Ok and close the registry editor, then reboot your PC.

Post results below

Baalzaman
Before: 400-450ms in Shatt
After: 230ms average
Got this from
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...64146&sid=1#179

For the second part i can't get it to work cause i am using Vista..any idea how?

This post has been edited by erni3: Dec 12 2007, 04:41 PM
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post Dec 12 2007, 04:44 PM

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screenshot is provided .. i still cant find it on the top tabs
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post Dec 12 2007, 04:51 PM

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haha i can't even see your screen shot. maybe my Screamx screwing up again
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post Dec 12 2007, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(erni3 @ Dec 12 2007, 04:40 PM)
OK the VM / Linux stuff has proved unnecessary!

To get low pings with 2 simple registry hacks do the following (you need to do both settings for the maximum effect)

1 - TcpAckFrequency - NOTE if you are running Windows Vista this setting may not have any effect - a hotfix is needed is linked below. This works fine under Windows XP.

Thanks to Dedrin for locating the VISTA hotfixes needed to apply the TcpAckFrequency registry tweak (apply the hotfix then add the registry tweak):

    Q u o t e:
    For Vista users, you can download this hotfix from here.

    Vista 32 bit - http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?showtopic=3265

    Vista 64 bit - http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?showtopic=5976

    You will have to register on that site to download it, but it is free and I have never received any kind of ads or spam from them. Pretty good site for Windows hotfixes that are generally unpublished to the public on any kind of widespread basis.

    Cheers.
Now,

Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

Then find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\

There will be multiple NIC interfaces listed in there, find the one you use to connect to the internet, there will be several interfaces listed (they have long names like {7DBA6DCA-FFE8-4002-A28F-4D2B57AE8383}. Click each one, the right one will have lots of settings in it and you will see your machines IP address listed there somewhere. Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TcpAckFrequency, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

you can change it back to 2 (default) at a later stage if it affects your other TCP application performance. it tells windows how many TCP packets to wait before sending ACK. if the value is 1, windows will send ACK every time it receives a TCP package.

2 - TCPNoDelay
This one is usually pretty simple (see note)

Details: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserve...3.mspx?mfr=true

You should install the Microsoft Message Queuing Service. To do this go:

START > SETTINGS > CONTROL PANEL

Open up ADD OR REMOVE PROGRAMS

click ADD/REMOVE WINDOWS COMPONENTS

Scroll down the list that appears, and TICK the entry MESSAGE QUEUING and click NEXT. Message Queuing will now be installed. Once done its probably a good idea to restart. Once thats done then add the registry entry below

Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

Then find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Parameters

Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

Click Ok and close the registry editor, then reboot your PC.

Post results below

Baalzaman
Before: 400-450ms in Shatt
After: 230ms average
Got this from
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...64146&sid=1#179

For the second part i can't get it to work cause i am using Vista..any idea how?
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bro, have you been readin the whole thread?

nessesary or not, its VM linux is MUCH better than reg change as you get to control app-per-app basis such as just WoW. where as the reg change will affect ur download, video streams and other things that require larger packet sizes (aka requiring larger bandwidth instead of faster response)

what it means is that if you change the registry settings, your download speeds for example, will be slowed down due to the additional ACK's and pings.

and to turn it on and off you have to change registry, and REBOOT for it to take effect. this can be a huge hassle especially vista users that have a lot of startup apps for example.


Added on December 12, 2007, 4:56 pm
QUOTE(RapTalk @ Dec 12 2007, 04:44 PM)
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screenshot is provided .. i still cant find it on the top tabs
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hold down alt see if theres the toolbar showing on the top? there shouldbe a toolbar like in internet explorer, theres "File Edit View Favorites Tools Help" that kinda toolbar, in which on VM, its "Host"

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mmmm thx for the help, i try that method later cause i m not sure which method suit me the best cause streamyx giving me massive head ache now. Any problem i pm you, if you don't mind smile.gif
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Hmm.. have been using the registry tweak and my surfing is actually faster and also it didn't affect my torrents. Plus You tube for some reason loads faster? lolx. I dunno lah go figure.
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QUOTE(Noyze @ Dec 12 2007, 05:48 PM)
Hmm.. have been using the registry tweak and my surfing is actually faster and also it didn't affect my torrents. Plus You tube for some reason loads faster? lolx. I dunno lah go figure.
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that could be explained if your streamyx ip is being really crappy to the point even normal surfing response is affected. torrent wise i wouldnt know for sure atm, but i suspect its just mere cases of seed/peers getting better ACK's, and able to send files quicker to you? overall BANDWIDTH (note that its different from response/latency) will still be degraded from the registry tweak.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 12 2007, 06:08 PM)
that could be explained if your streamyx ip is being really crappy to the point even normal surfing response is affected. torrent wise i wouldnt know for sure atm, but i suspect its just mere cases of seed/peers getting better ACK's, and able to send files quicker to you? overall BANDWIDTH (note that its different from response/latency) will still be degraded from the registry tweak.
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not for me as well...weee... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Dec 12 2007, 08:25 PM)
Go back into vmware linux and open console (its on the desktop) and type in Yarre's fix. (the stuff in caps are not a typo )

sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d your.wow.server.ip.address --dport 3724 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3724 press enter

sudo socat -d -d -d TCP4-LISTEN:3724,nodelay,fork,reuseaddr,su=nobody TCP4:your.wow.server.ip.address:3724,nodelay press enter
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ahhh solved the host problem .. now got problem with this , any1 could help?

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