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cheeann
post Dec 23 2007, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 23 2007, 02:17 AM)
Guys, have u ever heard of adjustable camber nut?

I found 1 that can fit to our car, but anyone use it before?

I wanna know the pro & contra of using it..

I think cheeann can explain this as he is working in tyre bussiness line..

By the way here is the pics..

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haiz,i dowan 2 layan tis kind of question d~
later i answered liao kena bash like in satria forum kao kao~
u wanna know then ask wkho555 ba~
i've done his car personally without using it at all~
btw jus 2 let u know those 2 bluff small kid only~
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post Dec 23 2007, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 AM)
haiz,i dowan 2 layan tis kind of question d~
later i answered liao kena bash like in satria forum kao kao~
u wanna know then ask wkho555 ba~
i've done his car personally without using it at all~
btw jus 2 let u know those 2 bluff small kid only~
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Kasi story la cheeann, i dunno so dun wan kena con, they introduced this thing to me so i ask to the expert lah notworthy.gif
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post Dec 23 2007, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 23 2007, 03:09 AM)
Kasi story la cheeann, i dunno so dun wan kena con, they introduced this thing to me so i ask to the expert lah  notworthy.gif
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it's actually a piece of junk 2 conned newbies ppl on cars~
unless u wanna play more stability for ur car then only play wit camber nut~
for wat i've seen on ur tire tells me tat u dun drive fast n thre's no reason u need 2 do camber unless u wanna drive ur car as mad like KeV~
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post Dec 23 2007, 02:33 AM

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usually camber screw is used when the car has aged,where the lower arm,knuckle,absorbers especially has run outa specs causing negative camber angles causing the tire position maybe more than 0degrees which will cause premature tyre wear in the inside in most cases,its a good item if u wana maintain ur tyre 4 along time,the cons is that this screw is quite fragile and nt robust as the standard steel kingpin,which makes safety a question.certain cars is unable to adjust camber so this screw is helpful bt most car manufactures do not allow camber adjustment.Most proton cars and perodua do nt have camber adjustment for the front wheels.
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post Dec 23 2007, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 23 2007, 12:28 AM)
malam yang sunyi.....................................
terdengar bunyi katak ............................
dan juga terdengar ahbeng lumba kereta ......................
sangant bising =.=
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ada dengar bunyi kereta saya??... tongue.gif

QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 23 2007, 01:17 AM)

Added on December 23, 2007, 1:32 amGuys, have u ever heard of adjustable camber nut?

I found 1 that can fit to our car, but anyone use it before?

I wanna know the pro & contra of using it..

I think cheeann can explain this as he is working in tyre bussiness line..

By the way here is the pics..

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this one not durable... can easily bent/break, thus not adjustable anymore... get the thicker one... some shop will con u by replacing ur camber nut with this cheapskate thinner camber nut... tarak tahan lama...

PS: last time got 1 tayar shop explain to me, coz my previous cheapskate camber nut bengkok adi... he showed me the difference between both... price is the same, but quality different....

QUOTE(nightzstar @ Dec 23 2007, 01:50 AM)
Found few nice design of lenso rims.Wonder how much they cost? sweat.gif
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go and ask ler... whistling.gif
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post Dec 23 2007, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 AM)
haiz,i dowan 2 layan tis kind of question d~
later i answered liao kena bash like in satria forum kao kao~
u wanna know then ask wkho555 ba~
i've done his car personally without using it at all~
btw jus 2 let u know those 2 bluff small kid only~
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 23 2007, 02:33 AM)
usually camber screw is used when the car has aged,where the lower arm,knuckle,absorbers especially has run outa specs causing negative camber angles causing the tire position maybe more than 0degrees which will cause premature tyre wear in the inside in most cases,its a good item if u wana maintain ur tyre 4 along time,the cons is that this screw is quite fragile and nt robust as the standard steel kingpin,which makes safety a question.certain cars is unable to adjust camber so this screw is helpful bt most car manufactures do not allow camber adjustment.Most proton cars and perodua do nt have camber adjustment for the front wheels.
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that 1 very cheap de. but tyre shop sure con u 1. after u install u can will hear whistling sound from front tyre side when ur car is moving. ^^
i gtg. work again. aiks

This post has been edited by wkho555: Dec 23 2007, 08:17 AM
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 23 2007, 03:33 AM)
usually camber screw is used when the car has aged,where the lower arm,knuckle,absorbers especially has run outa specs causing negative camber angles causing the tire position maybe more than 0degrees which will cause premature tyre wear in the inside in most cases,its a good item if u wana maintain ur tyre 4 along time,the cons is that this screw is quite fragile and nt robust as the standard steel kingpin,which makes safety a question.certain cars is unable to adjust camber so this screw is helpful bt most car manufactures do not allow camber adjustment.Most proton cars and perodua do nt have camber adjustment for the front wheels.
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aged??
r u sure??
my dad's honda car already goin 20yrs old by next year n yet neva put any camber nuts~
even my satria n my sis's wira goin 13yrs old n still neva put camber nuts also cuz in my shop me n my dad wit his bro n cousin do d proper way of alignment adjust by d rack end there~
as for me i can tell u camber nut is used majority for accident car n if u wanna adjust more camber for stabilty~
every car has camber setting ard -0.2 to -0.7
if u jus let tire shop con u by changing in2 camber nuts n set it 0 degree meaning they take away ur car's stability which will harm user on da road wit sum car actually skidded on da road due 2 d stabilty of tat car no longer exist plus without camber or 0 degree setting will make ur car feels floats during high speed at 80-100km/h n above~
many shops will ask u change in2 camber nuts cuz for 1 main reason which is 2 get more commission cuz normal alignment won't cost u more than rm40 for perodua n proton cars as their salary is depending on commission n their basis salary is ard 1.5k per month~
so other wat i've explain up n above so do u mind 2 explain more 2 me y do v need 2 change camber nuts??
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Dec 23 2007, 01:50 AM)
Found few nice design of lenso rims.Wonder how much they cost? sweat.gif
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me using lenso rims.. priced below rm900... nice and light..

QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 AM)
haiz,i dowan 2 layan tis kind of question d~
later i answered liao kena bash like in satria forum kao kao~
u wanna know then ask wkho555 ba~
i've done his car personally without using it at all~
btw jus 2 let u know those 2 bluff small kid only~
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hey bro hows my stuff?? haha

QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 09:26 AM)
aged??
r u sure??
my dad's honda car already goin 20yrs old by next year n yet neva put any camber nuts~
even my satria n my  sis's wira  goin 13yrs old n still neva put camber nuts also cuz in my shop me n my dad wit his bro n cousin do d proper way of alignment adjust by d rack end there~
as for me i can tell u camber nut is used majority for accident car n if u wanna adjust more camber for stabilty~
every car has camber setting ard -0.2 to -0.7
if u jus let tire shop con u by changing in2 camber nuts n set it  0 degree meaning they take away ur car's stability which will harm user on da road wit sum car actually skidded on da road due 2 d stabilty of tat car no longer exist plus without camber or 0 degree setting will make ur car feels floats during high speed at 80-100km/h n above~
many shops will ask u change in2 camber nuts cuz for 1 main reason which is 2 get more commission cuz normal alignment won't cost u more than rm40 for perodua n proton cars as their salary is depending on commission n their basis salary is ard 1.5k per month~
so other wat i've explain up n above so do u mind 2 explain more 2 me y do v need 2 change camber nuts??
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fuiyo.. panjang..

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post Dec 23 2007, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 09:26 AM)
aged??
r u sure??
my dad's honda car already goin 20yrs old by next year n yet neva put any camber nuts~
even my satria n my  sis's wira  goin 13yrs old n still neva put camber nuts also cuz in my shop me n my dad wit his bro n cousin do d proper way of alignment adjust by d rack end there~
as for me i can tell u camber nut is used majority for accident car n if u wanna adjust more camber for stabilty~
every car has camber setting ard -0.2 to -0.7
if u jus let tire shop con u by changing in2 camber nuts n set it  0 degree meaning they take away ur car's stability which will harm user on da road wit sum car actually skidded on da road due 2 d stabilty of tat car no longer exist plus without camber or 0 degree setting will make ur car feels floats during high speed at 80-100km/h n above~
many shops will ask u change in2 camber nuts cuz for 1 main reason which is 2 get more commission cuz normal alignment won't cost u more than rm40 for perodua n proton cars as their salary is depending on commission n their basis salary is ard 1.5k per month~
so other wat i've explain up n above so do u mind 2 explain more 2 me y do v need 2 change camber nuts??
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Bro,
Is there any way to change back to normal one??

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post Dec 23 2007, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Dec 23 2007, 10:39 AM)
hey bro hows my stuff?? haha
fuiyo.. panjang..
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i'm still waiting for their reply/call le~
b patient,k?? notworthy.gif
panjang??
jus my normal 2cents of explainations~
i hope tis fella can answer my question

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 10:43 AM)
Bro,
Is there any way to change back to normal one??

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yes u can but prefer wen u change new absorber only change back 2 normal 1 cuz once u edi install it so no point taking it out as it'll cost u labour 2 take it out,so better wait till u change absorber only cahnge back 2 normal nut~
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 23 2007, 02:33 AM)
usually camber screw is used when the car has aged,where the lower arm,knuckle,absorbers especially has run outa specs causing negative camber angles causing the tire position maybe more than 0degrees which will cause premature tyre wear in the inside in most cases,its a good item if u wana maintain ur tyre 4 along time,the cons is that this screw is quite fragile and nt robust as the standard steel kingpin,which makes safety a question.certain cars is unable to adjust camber so this screw is helpful bt most car manufactures do not allow camber adjustment.Most proton cars and perodua do nt have camber adjustment for the front wheels.
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 09:26 AM)
aged??
r u sure??
my dad's honda car already goin 20yrs old by next year n yet neva put any camber nuts~
even my satria n my  sis's wira  goin 13yrs old n still neva put camber nuts also cuz in my shop me n my dad wit his bro n cousin do d proper way of alignment adjust by d rack end there~
as for me i can tell u camber nut is used majority for accident car n if u wanna adjust more camber for stabilty~
every car has camber setting ard -0.2 to -0.7
if u jus let tire shop con u by changing in2 camber nuts n set it  0 degree meaning they take away ur car's stability which will harm user on da road wit sum car actually skidded on da road due 2 d stabilty of tat car no longer exist plus without camber or 0 degree setting will make ur car feels floats during high speed at 80-100km/h n above~
many shops will ask u change in2 camber nuts cuz for 1 main reason which is 2 get more commission cuz normal alignment won't cost u more than rm40 for perodua n proton cars as their salary is depending on commission n their basis salary is ard 1.5k per month~
so other wat i've explain up n above so do u mind 2 explain more 2 me y do v need 2 change camber nuts??
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whow morning morning got so many sifu drool.gif
i also want to explain brows.gif

but no exp doh.gif


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post Dec 23 2007, 09:57 AM

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sorry boss pls dun come n terminate me cuz i'm still a car's noob~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 09:54 AM)
yes u can but prefer wen u change new absorber only change back 2 normal 1 cuz once u edi install it so no point taking it out as it'll cost u labour 2 take it out,so better wait till u change absorber only cahnge back 2 normal nut~
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Oh I see. Then i wait ba smile.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:55 AM)
whow morning morning got so many sifu  drool.gif
i also want to explain  brows.gif

but no exp doh.gif
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Hehe. Not goin to terminate people laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Dec 23 2007, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 09:54 AM)
i'm still waiting for their reply/call le~
b patient,k??  notworthy.gif
panjang??
jus my normal 2cents of explainations~
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no prob.. jus let me knw lah.. haha

QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:55 AM)
whow morning morning got so many sifu  drool.gif
i also want to explain  brows.gif

but no exp doh.gif
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hahah
can wan
me waitin to listen to sifoo andychan..haha
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post Dec 23 2007, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 02:23 AM)
it's actually a piece of junk 2 conned newbies ppl on cars~
unless u wanna play more stability for ur car then only play wit camber nut~
for wat i've seen on ur tire tells me tat u dun drive fast n thre's no reason u need 2 do camber unless u wanna drive ur car as mad like KeV~
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thanx for the explaination bro notworthy.gif ..

luckily i asked it 1st in this forum, actually i'm not install it in my car yet, the tyre shop just tell n show me that adjustable camber nut when i went there to tampal my punctured tyre..
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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 23 2007, 11:04 AM)
thanx for the explaination bro  notworthy.gif ..

luckily i asked it 1st in this forum, actually i'm not install it in my car yet, the tyre shop just tell n show me that adjustable camber nut when i went there to tampal my punctured tyre..
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nvm,u owe me a teh tarik super kao kao 4 d explainations~ laugh.gif
tat shop hinting u 2 do alignment at his shop so he wanna get more commision as holidays is near n he wants more pocket money~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 10:07 AM)
nvm,u owe me a teh tarik super kao kao 4 d explainations~    laugh.gif
tat shop hinting u 2 do alignment at his shop so he wanna get more commision as holidays is near n he wants more pocket money~
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aisehhhh teh tarik no problem lorrr.. teh tolak also can tongue.gif

ya2 that shop tell nice story bout it & in the same time ask me to check my alignment but i said nvm lah..

he said, "kawan, u mau balik kampung esok ar? kasi buat alignment lah baru u safe drive atas highway, u punya tayar pun takder makan sebelah.."
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post Dec 23 2007, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 23 2007, 11:13 AM)
aisehhhh teh tarik no problem lorrr.. teh tolak also can  tongue.gif

ya2 that shop tell nice story bout it & in the same time ask me to check my alignment but i said nvm lah..

he said, "kawan, u mau balik kampung esok ar? kasi buat alignment lah baru u safe drive atas highway, u punya tayar pun takder makan sebelah.."
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takder makan sebelah apa mau buat alignment?? tat fella really an idiot shakehead.gif
anyway neva trust them wit camber nuts unless u dun trust me then go ahead n install camber nuts n later give u prob then dun come back ask me for more enquiries s i already posted it up wat is camber nut edi~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 23 2007, 10:19 AM)
takder makan sebelah apa mau buat alignment?? tat fella really an idiot  shakehead.gif
anyway neva trust them wit camber nuts unless u dun trust me then go ahead n install camber nuts n later give u prob then dun come back ask me for more enquiries s i already posted it up wat is camber nut edi~
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ehehe..orait bro, i got it, thanx once again for the explaiantion thumbup.gif
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yesterday go to autogen see see...alot stuff & price very reasonable thumbup.gif
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next month i go klang,change lenso rims tongue.gif
bronze rims whistling.gif

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