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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with **V9**, SIE "Saga Iswara Enthusiasts"

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post Dec 29 2007, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 29 2007, 11:34 PM)
errm. ya it control air-con. but after i turn of air-con it still remain as air-con on. so my rpm will goes till 1.5k.
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ooo... usually when FICD leaking, ur idle will drop... vr rare it increases ur rpm... because the FICD open/close the vacuum pressure which activates the idle load compensator... this ILC is the thing that pushes down the screw till a specific point where u want ur rpm be....
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post Dec 29 2007, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Vandigo @ Dec 29 2007, 11:43 PM)
Hi everyone.Have your  iswara got smell like kentut for the air con?mine one will smell like kentut and longkang smell sometime from the air con there la. blink.gif
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clean ur cooling coil... its dirty...

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 29 2007, 11:43 PM)
is not leaking. i saw it too but on or off the hose still suck air in. my foreman ask me when i bend the ILC coz got scratch. i think is the SC try to bend b4. last time i told the SC rpm goes high oledi but still come back. this time more worst.
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err.... ohya, my previous post was wrong... blur adi... tongue.gif tongue.gif

yar, if leaking, on/off aircond also suck air... means the ILC shaft will constantly pressing on the throttle lever on the carb even without aircond load switched on... soli sifoo i noob... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Dec 29 2007, 11:51 PM)
so, jerking when on air cond can be due to faulty FICD?
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err... as explained in my post #1265, i was wrong... hehehe...
jerking when on aircond can also caused by many other factors...

QUOTE(wenbin84 @ Dec 29 2007, 11:51 PM)
any1 know price abt the Kimex sport spring ?
n 1 more question, any experience to modify ori saga 1.3 more power?how abt change 421, 1.6" piping?
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kimex springs about rm350...
i bought mine second hand for rm130... tongue.gif

modify 4g13 to be more power ahh??
- convert 1.5 block
- oversized piston + 4g18 crankshaft
- sharper profile crankshaft (fully balanced)
- pelleted conrods
- cnc port n polish cylinder head
- high profile camshaft
- adjustable campulley
- stiffer valve spring
- skimmed head to increase compression ratio
- ceramic coat engine block, cylinder head, intake manifold and exhaust manifold
- better engine bearings
- lightened + slotted flywheel (fully balanced)
- racing clutch
- twin weber dcoe carburetor
- powerzone 421 extractor, midbullet, 1.7" piping, straightflow muffler
- lightened crankpulley

what else ahh... hmm.... hmm.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 29 2007, 11:51 PM)
no la. that what my foreman told me. he more expert. he help ppl mod turbo but when come to normal car he always tell me dun nid mod la. car cant fly
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yea... vr true... stay stock standard is the best... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(wenbin84 @ Dec 30 2007, 02:00 AM)
i know k&n is good but its  expensive wor... okok oredi enuff la i think. not very rich...hehe
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u get what u pay for mah... take k&n lar... no regrets geh... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy987 @ Dec 30 2007, 03:34 AM)
k&n?? i heard the fuel comsuption will increase due to increase of the air intake?
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as long as ur AFR ratio is balanced, no problem geh... thats why ur carb AFR must be retuned after changing to highflow air filter... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 30 2007, 07:50 AM)
sky shifoo, ur car got auto choke or not? my gf car is same model as ur.. the mech say the auto choke is spoil and cant be repair.. how true is this? now every morning she found that the car is difficult to start..
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my car using weber... my weber tarak autochoke... sweat.gif

but standard aisan carb should have autochoke function... but it is also wear n tear item... thats why after sometime its not working anymore.... i'm not sure is there any autochoke service kit available in sparepart shop or not.... go enquire lo... tongue.gif

QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Dec 30 2007, 07:55 AM)
his car's weber dun have autochoke..rite sifoo?  brows.gif

have to step on the gas paddle everytime on 1st start of a day..
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 09:58 AM)
Guy, my lmst break record man. First time full tank can go 936km. Great right?
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u forgot to press reset button after ur previous fill up??...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 10:04 AM)
100% highway users... Now day everyday going outstation 2 trip. Go and come back. Go and back, around 300km. Average speed, 80-90km/h. Not rev more that 3k rpm. No traffic jams. Before go, pump v-power RM85 already max. Come back, pump back v-power RM95. Mean, RM95 can go 936km. Who dare to said LMST fc very high now?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 10:18 AM)
By the way, just now who ask that who wanna buy a saga sedan? Proton Saga sedan Mivec turbo 1.8 with 0.5 boost interested or not? Rm9000 nego.. From 1.6 mivec rebore to 1.8.

Proton saga 1.8 mivec turbo
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i read about that yesterday as well... brows.gif singchaii, quick buy the car lar.... den transplant the engine over.... 1.8 mivec turbo engine alone definitely cost more than rm9k... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 10:29 AM)
Don't want lor.. Later, I die young..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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haha.... learn how to tame the beast lah... nothing is impossible... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 12:49 PM)
Top 10 LYN Saga/Iswara Spammerz....  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

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wah... podium finish... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Dec 30 2007, 01:31 PM)
definitely will try harder...my new year resolution.. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 30 2007, 03:54 PM)
jeng jeng jeng....
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I check out Proton website not even a place to place order but the car is available on road with road tax on some more.. yeah u got it the answer is "Malaysia Boleh!" cheers.gif
from the exterior this car boleh tahan.. except that cheap antenna hopefully the interior wont fill with cheap plastic..
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abang, old news jor... whistling.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 30 2007, 06:12 PM)
walao lu jual ikan la u dah tahu pun tak inform us here...  doh.gif
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tak jual ikan pun... jual ayam.. whistling.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Dec 30 2007, 06:19 PM)
bapak ayam spotted... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 30 2007, 06:35 PM)
what the, after installing the cap ayam exhaust extension, got "sound-alike" BOV turbo that the evo has... i mean "sound-alike" only whenever i press accelerator and let go
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good lah... now u have a turbocharged muffler... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 30 2007, 08:23 PM)
that 1 is to cover the exhaust from emitting the heat which ll be sucked into the engine and make ur engine power drop. Actually there shdnt be any opening but i dunno y they make a hole there
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it is called heatshield... the lubang is supposed to be connected to ur airbox snorkle... why??... because during cold weather (or winter season), engine sucks hot air and helps the engine to warm up faster... icon_rolleyes.gif

if u see older saga with the airbox snorkle + connector to the heatshield hole, there is a vacuum tube connected to it... the valve is actuated by a vacuum pressure so when cold start, the valve opens and sucks hot air from extractor... and when engine fully warms up, the valve closes and thus sucks cold air from the side fender... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 08:45 PM)
Got.. All LMST got that thing while iswara doesn't have that thing. Sendiri DIY lor.. Autogen selling one very nice.. Haha,.,.
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i tot autogen selling that one is jz part of the heatsink??... last time khguan and drexchan did it for their Wise... but end up mass producing it to the public...

http://www.drexchan.fotopic.net/p30964070.html
http://www.drexchan.fotopic.net/p29909559.html

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 30 2007, 10:10 PM)
and if FICD malfuction will it consume more fuel?
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nope... but it will cause ur idle rpm to go hairwire... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 30 2007, 11:09 PM)
Aiyo.. The heatsink got hole, got the usage geh. you know why got the hole? So if put sensor on the extractor, we no need drill lor. >_<
Hood lifter for saga/iswara will never suit saga and iswara. I got try. If I close the hood, the hood will bend.
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o2 sensor not put there lah... it is located at the other end of ur extractor, jz before the flexi joint... under ur car....

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 30 2007, 11:40 PM)
dunno how it look like. i hv see 1.3efi de o2 sensor. is locate at the bottom of the extractor. like sparkplug
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 31 2007, 12:45 AM)
people, please; for the love of God, read and remember this
i have typed this so many times already that its getting tiring

that metal is called a HEAT SHIELD, not a heat sink doh.gif
its is meant to reduce thermal fatigue on the surrounding parts of the car, among other things
(basically to contain the heat radiated by the exhaust manifold as much as possible)

the hole there is for the autochoke air intake
in the full spec models, when the engine is cold, the air intake draws its air from around the exhaust manifold (hot air)
the engine heats up faster, but more importantly, it runs smoother while heating up
this is achieved by a damper (valve) in the duct
it is operated by vacuum which is tapped from the vacuum hose system
i have not traced the exact route of the hoses though

once the engine is hot, the damper switches the intake to the cold air intake (CAI) from the fender
if u remove the duct that comes out from the air filter box, you will see a circular mold mark which would be above the metal opening in the heat shield when the duct is in place
this is where the intake joint is molded in on the full spec models
these two points are joined using a flexible metallic hose (wire weave with foil covering)

they did not make a specific heat shield for the normal models so they just used the full spec version with the intake point still on it; not to mention it doesnt even fit on the versions of lmsts with the 4-2-1 extractors!  (cheapskate bastards dry.gif)
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post Dec 31 2007, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 31 2007, 10:16 AM)
Another reason to put snorkle hor? Kena cheat by the SC again. Last time I asked him why got hole, then he point another wira which done sensor and show give me see..

That autogen selling de mai that 1 lor. But now more advance. It using laser cut oh...

02 sensor put at end of the extractor? But why some car put on top? Especially the myvi? And some other car, also putting on top.  doh.gif The correct place is end of the extractor?
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haha... SC people also pakai hantam only lah... laugh.gif
last time they also use laser cut mah... datz why they selling so expensive lor... if use scissors cut, i also can sell lah... sell 20bucks also can.... whistling.gif
different car/engine has their o2 sensor located at different location of the extractor mah... but o2 sensor must be as close to the heat source as possible lah to get accurate reading... means best if jz after exhaust has exits combustion chamber... but the problem is, sensing 1 piston AFR is enough to get good tuning??... especially car with individual throttle body geh.... unsure.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 31 2007, 11:24 AM)
A lot of sifoo spoken laugh.gif

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pws also sifoo... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 31 2007, 01:38 PM)
Uishhhh  doh.gif  doh.gif
Yea...
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 31 2007, 01:56 PM)
Just now go survey headlamp bulb. Very very interested on PIAA headlamp 2700k temperature. Very yellow and very attract me. But Rm280 per pair. sweat.gif
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of coz ler... PIAA mah... sweat.gif

QUOTE(zhixin @ Dec 31 2007, 03:41 PM)
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it is situated at the top of the rear windscreen..
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it is called roof spoiler... last time i ask proton sc before... cost about rm150... vr hard to find them in bodykit shop though....

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 31 2007, 04:12 PM)
what series of iswara is this?
the rear spoiler looks different
the side pieces short onli
doesnt go all the way up the side next to the rear wind sheild
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LMSS ler... it is basically an iswara aeroback sports edition... produced only in silver color... vr nice overall, compare to normal iswara aeroback... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 31 2007, 05:29 PM)
Why no other brand copy PIAA de.. haha.. Only PIAA produce 2700k temperature bulb.
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hella dun have meh??... unsure.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 31 2007, 07:16 PM)
petrol price wan increase arr. all petrol kiosk so many ppl...
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haihz dunno ler... but jz now went pump petrol adi... coz my fuel tank close to empty jor... later mau jalan-jalan cari mangsa to smoke.... so better fill up first lu...

ohya, recorded fc 10.5km/litre.... far from what singchaii has achieved... sweat.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 02:39 AM

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sien sien sien...
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post Jan 1 2008, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 1 2008, 02:44 AM)
No go clubbing? hehe..

By the way, I wanna get Philips rally 90/100 bulb. Any comment? I see KeV Da man using and it so bright. Now I just using Hella 90/100.
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nola.. went out celebrate with a gal i accidentaly fall in love with... but... someone i shouldnt fall in love with also... sad.gif sad.gif

phillips 90/100w bulb ah??... i previously using... but removed adi... haha... u want buy my second hand bulb??...
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 1 2008, 09:35 AM)
Not good ar the bulb? Is philips Rally?
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good ahh... jz that previously i dunno whether is my headlamp problem or bulb problem.... datz why i change another brand to see if makes any difference... now comformed is headlamp problem... shakehead.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jan 1 2008, 11:12 AM)
luv is in the air~  brows.gif
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luv gone up in smoke got la... sleep.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 1 2008, 12:48 PM)
Oh..out liao hor?
Our saga still da best neh...dun need change la  wink.gif  thumbup.gif

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post Jan 1 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jan 1 2008, 01:01 PM)
nvr mind.. work harder! icon_rolleyes.gif
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nvm... gave up adi... told her yesterday... when u know the road is a dead end, u still wanna move forward meh??..... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 1 2008, 01:14 PM)
Give me test test can ar?  blush.gif
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no problem... but we dont meet vr often... how to pass to u??... hahaha...

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 1 2008, 01:42 PM)
Maybe she is trying on you ler smile.gif

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nola... for tradition reasons and scientific reasons we also cannot be together... be end it here... sad.gif

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