I agree with this also. What kind of moron you think we are? Who would believe that you need to pay supplier in advance to get stocks? The method of dealing nowadays are strictly COD. So, if the supplier run away with the "advanced" payment then it's SB's fault. From customers point of view, they deal with SB. The law will not protect SB due to his own stupidity. Even if he can proof that his supplier run away with the money, the law doesn't work that way. If SB does not have money to pay back then he need to declare bankrupt. Then refund the money monthly.

If like this so easy then I could just setup a computer supplying company and do all the sales. Then ask my friend (the supplier) to go MIA. Blame it on him and split the money. The I am free!!! yippeeee....

This post has been edited by abubin: Dec 24 2007, 02:06 PM

PE case also not bad. He still living freely. He also able to get high pay job. If not mistaken previously, they said told his boss but PE said to boss is mistaken identity or something. Since he did not get into jail or did no really get evicted, he can say he is innocent until proven guilty.

So, I urge you guys don't drag. Don't think so much for the conman. Whether he is conman or not. And whether if he declare bankrupt or not. If he declare bankrupt, he still need to repay your money. It is also the only way for you to FORCE him to repay you. Because if not, without records and police's pressure, he can just go hiding. Bankruptcy is not a solution to help debtee only but also to help debtor get back their money. It's also a way to ensure he is sincere about repaying the debt.

Because he can say I pay you guys back monthly and so on but after few months he can just stop paying. You guys can do shit about it because case dragged too long already. Just don't waste your time HOPING for him to pay back. If you want to pity him then fine but prepare not to get back your money. Don't come complaining later when he only paid 20% and then went MIA.

I think a decision need to be made and all victims vote. Once the decision is made, do it quickly. Those who doesn't do their part should be excluded. Because these people only sit in their ass and wait for others to make the move like report police and chase this guy.

Report police, get court order and get this guy to attend. All victims pool fork out a little money to get lawyer. See can get lawyer from government or not. Also, appoint committee or someone who can do the running. These money can be used by the committee and so on. I don't think I need to tell the details. Someone from the victim should be mature enough to think of all these strategies.

Goodluck in getting this "maybe" conman.

Don't have B&W documents? What about bank deposit slips? Even if it's through online banking, there will be some records stating from this account to recipient bank account with details. That is something already.

Also, some of the PMs and thread in this forum and other forum regarding sales by conman should still be relevant supporting document against him. Since it also involve so many people, I am sure the victims have a very strong case. What ever it is, I am sure it's better than "wait for refund". That is such a naive thinking.