We'll wait until tomorrow and see if any buyer really interested to get
their money back by joining the SB Report Police Group.

If by tomorrow no one joined, we can declare all buyers not interested
to get their refund.

Buyers from out of town can register themselves for their respective
state.

Example:
SB Reporting Police Group
a)RangerRed - Penang
b)temptation1314 - KL
etc...

First group will be formed if KL has more than 5 buyers register in this
group.

About the media report, if no buyers willing to come forward, then
no need to waste time on people who don't care whether they get
back their money or not.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 19 2007, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the update. Hope you keep on updating to make
us less worried.

And since you have the police report, do you mind upload it
here to make us less hassle to go to police station?

Or if you can't, please provide us with location of the police
station that you make that report with 08407 number. Your
help will be greatly appreciated.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 19 2007, 03:17 PM

SB, I think posting where you make your police report is very easy.
Just write:
I did my report in [blah blah blah].
I don't understand why until now, we still don't know where you did the report.
Please correct me anyone if we already know where is the police report place
posted by SB because I may miss it out. If I miss it out, sorry SB.

And finally, we got some background works done. Bravo to RangerRed and
Heroes99. And thanks for PE's victim to tell us their experience when dealing
with Pe's case. We do need your experience in dealing with this. The amount
is more than double the PE's case.

Heroes99 is right. Flaming is enough. SB already come out and post. The next
course is to PM RangerRed or Heroes99 for real action. We will get to
the bottom of this. No accusation is necessary. Time to get the job done.

And to those saying waiting for refund before reporting police, SB already posted
in the First page that refund might take years. And also, reporting police does not
make SB a conman. It just link to Police Report made by SB in catching the main
culprit (if there's a one). We're just helping SB to catch the main culprit since more
report means more people get cheated and Police might make this higher priority.

To SB, we're actually helping you by reporting to the police.

P/S : Or SB can come clean and explain everything honestly and save everyone's time.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 21 2007, 09:45 AM

Thanks for the details. Tell us which police station you go?

Thanks. You're actually helping SB in trying to get hold of main culprit.

All buyers come forward and help SB to nab the main culprits. Join the Police Reporting Group now
for the next right action.

Those who want to help SB by creating a help SB group that is the Police Report Group, please do this:

1) PM Heroes99 or RangerRed
2) RangerRed or Heroes99 will create a private thread to talk about next course of action

Please do the 1) first.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 21 2007, 12:09 PM

You're not helping. Please don't post unnecessary stuff unless its a good way to
solve this issue.

You still haven't answer my question regarding the whereabout of the police station. I've PM you but you never answered.
You're both similar that is, the whereabout of your police station is never answered.

I would like to know your relationship with SB. Are you:
a) both friends
b) both Strongbaby

You're actually creating more conspiracy by posting here as witness for SB. A lot of people might think you're
related to SB some how and you might be SB himself trying to make it as though SB has filed a police report.

Come back here and post more details honestly.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 21 2007, 12:25 PM

Hope you've PM RangerRed/Heroes99. They will hook you up with JB Police Reporting Group.

A lot of people start to join Police Reporting Group. We'll fight to get the money back in a group.
Those in the group might have more priviledge in getting back their refund. The reason is that your
name is in the police report, and not your nick.

SB will be happy to get us onboard his police report so that police will take notice of our case.
Maybe SB should go to police station with the police report group. That way, SB will clear his
name in LYN.

Ok, I'm updating where dark_lucifer said SB does his report. I quoted his PM in full:



Anyone believe dark_lucifer then can go check it out or call that police station and see whether the police there
would like to entertain phone calls.

Good luck guys. Things seems to be moving even during this holiday.

Don't worry. This is refund thread. The real work is done behind
the scene with Heroes99 and RangerRed working on it. Hope you're
part of the Police Reporting Group. There's a new thread soon as indicated
by Heroes99.

Here is the reason to create private and open thread:

Private Thread
To talk about direction and only those involve can access.
This is to discuss sensitive matters and does not want any
of it to leak.

Open Thread
Gather suggestion for what to do. Maybe a lot people can give
suggestion. More brains is better than less. This can be this
thread.

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Added on December 24, 2007, 10:14 amI hope this is confined to LYN. If it involved other website,
then refunding will be even slower.

Its really bad Christmas and New Year celebration for buyers.

Yes, police report is urgently needed to help SB to nab the main
culprit. That's why we hope all buyers will come forward. The more
the better, to give the police the impression of the seriouesness of
this matter.

A reason why something failed is because we're not unite. If you
really want your money back, then please PM Heroes99 or RangerRed
to join the Police Reporting Group.


This post has been edited by gogo2: Dec 24 2007, 10:14 AM

SB won't go to jail because the main supplier run away. Not him. So reporting police is very important task
that all buyer should do.

Another thing is, you said you also made report with the help of SB. I assume its a fraud case
also. Why you keep on being conned? And you lost so much money in LYN. How come you didn't
report in LYN Trade Zone dispute? I don't know if you're telling the truth or not. It seems very
hard to believe you.

And SB owe you RM20k. Why SB keep on owing people money? What does this mean to SB image as seller?

I just hope that you and SB will come out and tell us the honest truth.

Guys guys, don't speculate first. Let the buyers group meet with SB first and then
decide for the next course of action. As of now, SB still insist of his innocent and
there's some buyers still believe him. So let the buyers group sort out the matter.
Let's hear some good news from the buyer who is meeting SB.

If buyers don't bother to do anything, he don't even need to run away right?

Anyway, I hope meeting with SB is soon. And I hope SB will come out and meet with the buyers.
If SB does not meet with the Police Reporting Group, then we can start to conclude something.

So the ball is now at SB's park. Depends on how SB is going to kick it.

From the list, yipwh paying RM1600. Quite a lot.

Anyway, if you do something (like joining the report group), you might able to get something back.
At least you did your best and got no regret.

But if buyer keep quiet, then don't expect anything lar. Like if you don't work on something, nothing
will come out.

And I feel weird because after this case exploded, still got people haven't ask for refund yet. I'm
talking about the guy who just ask for refund. Mmm, I wonder how long the list will accumulate.

And Pip-X, to reduce misunderstand, SB should come here and talk. That's what Trade Zone
Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner for. Its for seller and buyer to come a understanding.

Let's say, SB really in trouble and have to use up all the RM120,000 money he collected. If
he come here and explain honestly, and then promise to pay monthly, people will stop
speculating and chanting for blood.

But let our RangerRed and Heroes99 do something behind the scene. I'm sure something is
done now without us knowing. Unless you join the group, you won't know anything.

kshin receive psp at this time is very weird. furthermore, kshin is quiet in the private
thread. maybe kshin is hired by SB to spy on the private thread. and he got his PSP
as payment

Enough of conspiracy theory, seems like something is done by buyers. Congratulation
to buyers for their good sense to join the group. Good luck to all the buyers.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 3 2008, 03:23 PM

10% only. Wow. If like that, money to those 90% of people is really not a big deal.
I'm happy for SB. Like that, SB just need to refund to those 10% only and then can
close this thread liao. This will be fast

Strongbaby/Huan/Strongbaby's wife should talk with you all in private thread
or in face to face discussion. I don't know how is the face to face discussion
result went. If SB know this will happened, he should struck a deal with the
KL Police Reporting Group. To see it end up like this is very unfortunate since
SB wife already start wanting to refund.

Kengsim is right to say that we're disorganised. We should have been able to
file and retract very fast the police report if SB/SB's wife struck a out of court
deal with buyer.

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Added on January 14, 2008, 3:05 pmI do hope this can settle out of court. Because as I remember, some court case is settled
out of court. Normally this is civil case. But if criminal case, AG have to proceed to prosecute.


This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 14 2008, 03:05 PM

First, we need to solve this issue. So please discuss with Kengsim on how to work out the mess now
that is quite unexpected.

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But to temptation1314, you cannot blame the buyer that report to police as getting everyone into mess.
Here is what happened:

--->First, before the KL Police Reporting Group being created, some people already report to police.

--->And the KL Police Reporting Group actually try to contact SB before doing anything. This is logical way forward, that is to ask SB properly before report to police. (What transpire here I don't know). Why the group proceed to report to police after meeting SB also I don't exactly know.

--->And SB should have sense also right. Since buyers wanna report, why he didn't bring up a deal to repay everyone. Instead, he irritate all the buyers and dare the buyer to report police. I don't think this is making sense right?

--->SB only digging his own grave by the way he is handling the case.

--->And temptation1314, can you guarantee everyone will be refunded if this is not brought out to court?

--->Some people think the money will burn anyway and want SB to go to jail for the thing he did

--->And if SB is conned by supplier, I don't think he will go to jail anyway since he had no intention to con

Anyway, done is done. As we always want, there's an urgency for all buyers to unite. The reason the issue come to this because of buyers not united in the first place.

Should be a secret.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Jan 14 2008, 04:31 PM