alice aka pretander can mask her spark just like any transformer can,read the transformers: the veiled threat

Dude you have written without even doing any research again. The decepticon have either taken military vehicle shapes or construction vehicle,theres not much colour variation to begin with,cmon its easier for us to see who were the decepticons and who were the autonots easier,its like football you cant have both team donning the same colour jersey. The fallen was designed like a Pharaoh aka demi god/king of ancient eygpt.

Dude you do realize that The Fallen was the first Decepticon ever? he is the first leader. Duh of course Megatron the current leader will call him master. This fact was in the movie,Jeftfire explained it when Shia mentioned The Fallen. Megatron hid because he kena ass whooping from optimus,remember that scene? Jetfire did say optimus is the only one who is powerful enough to stop the fallen so why are you arguing this fact? What starscream and megatron did isnt cowardly its more of retreat now and regroup and attack later. Seriously mssv19 were you paying attention to the movie at all?

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i think so too,the jordanians might have been using satellite radio like it has been said by a forrumer here before,and the reason why soundwave wouldnt have tapped the intel is because the signal moves up to the Jordanian satellite and straightaway to the US destroyer. Remember Starscream killed all communication devices with EMP,and the Jordanians were the only eyes for Pentagon thats before they sent the predators UAV.

probably its a combination of both, A,b,c and D. Hell i would wanna how big is devastator compared to John. Guys i dont get it some of you have been harping why John went up there? Remember that he was the senior head at sector 7 and they have done tons of research about NBE-1, he of all people would know the weakest point of all the decepticon armour,so it makes sense for him to go up there for these reasons:

a. To get the coordinates for the weak spot.

b. to rake a closer look at the weak spot.

c. get better signal on the satellite phone? i mean low orbiting satellites perhaps? that can bounce the signal to the destroyer?

Another interesting fact,the captain of the USS actually asked another destroyer that had the rail gun that was in the area to fire at Devastator. I think the army already has this secret weapon installed in their destroyer ships for some time, cmon if Sabot rounds can harm transformers that means this weapon can do more damage.

dude i replied you regarding this already, sigh cant believe you are soo entrapped about the notion this movie sucks till you are ignorant to the reason that im projecting. You think Jordan dont own satellites? You look down on all Arab countries or something? Hey the white people classify us as third world jungle infested country,doesnt mean we are what they say and we actually own and operate 4 satellites, Measat 1,2,3 and RazakSat 1. Of course they have sattelites la. and the jordanian army is just the surveillance team requested by the Jeneral at pentagon,as at that time theres nothing to track their men.

WTH, dude seriously why are you making balls as an issue,the shot was directly fired at the back torso,John was beneath the balls,as it was a upshot from below thats why devastator balls are in focus. Cmon man,i seriously feel that you have the impression that decepticons cannot be defeated by anything? cmon read the books,novels and also watch the series. The Autobots have defensor ever heard of that combinator? he is way smarter and stronger than Devastator.

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 25 2009, 04:23 PM

Like i implied before, its meant to be an upshot from below and also could be purposely done to create a scale effect,john as a ruler and devastator as the subject,that is to give the audience an impression how big Devastator really is. The balls is not an issue could be from those construction machines that has the wrecking balls attached,heres what the writers say:

Dude your ignorance is above anyone really, im beginning to think,hmm you never really followed any transformers series did you? Have heard of the creation matrix? a new mind can be created in this way and transffered to a new body that is constructed independently. They dont have sex,they dont reproduce the same way as we Humans do. Wheelie actions are for humor. dude cmon

amen to that brother

female transformer not terminator,its a pretender btw. It tongued sam to rip of his brain remember the ALLSPARK has been transfered onto his brain. Its not having sex with sam,you didnt see the sharp thing coming out from her back? the same thing that killed the army fella in the first movie eg scorponok tail.

you werent watching the same movie that we watched mssv19,the rail gun shot hit right dead center of the torso,did you even concentrate on that scene?

you should know that by seeing my replies.

Frenzy, by nature is already crazy mate,he went after Sam and Mikaela with the intent to kill. Dont think the pretender in terms of the cyborgs in the terminator series, they are heavy especially the T800 Arnie, but the latter model the TX was much lighter. Why the huge contrast? better technology and lighter but stronger parts. The Pretender is made to impersonate humans to the finest detail even weight,remember even Bumblebee cant notice that its a decepticon. The reason why it closed the doors after seeing Sam writing symbols on the wall is to slowly get him to clam down and restrains him and rip his brain out while he lowers down his guard, it is the lower the chances of damaging the brain due to a scuffle.

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Added on June 25, 2009, 5:21 pmi watched it the second time,its the same place that is hit and im damn sure it didnt hit the balls, hey mssv19 i think its better you go watch a second time,seriously your posts show you really arent concentrating on the movie.


This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 25 2009, 05:21 PM

the impact pierce through and disconnected the head,the hands and the legs. There is a possibility of it hitting there aswell.

Well the later part it was merely doing "if is not working the easy way,then i'll get the brain the hard way",the plan B was the part they were all taken away by grindor to Megatron. Probably Megatron knew the pretender is not to be depended on so thats why he had to come up with plan B, so taht he could get the Doctor to get the brain out.

You sure are ignorant let me show how ignorant you are, even after i explained it very clearly that its no Blackout:

he did transform, when archee shot at him and he smashed into the wall when the old man was eating mee

uh cmon,you want there to be a caption or a small voice that says,"here comes grindor not the same with Blackout,heres a comparison" a big table pops out with Blackout and grindor side by side, and the details are then presented on a 10 second timeframe and this keeps going on for all the other bots,it also eliminates the need for prequel novels or acknowledgement for previous works like comics,novels and series,what a good idea?

doesnt seem like it,watch the part where scorponok jumps out from the sand(1st movie,40 minutes into it),it only jumped 1.5 meters from the left of your viewing angle and pierce the white soldiers with glasses. In TF2 it jumped from the front like 5-6 meters to Jetfire's(hes taller than the white guy in the 1st movie) front torso and damaged it. 2 different scenes man.

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 25 2009, 06:26 PM

enjoy it bro

Well i dont have any experience in animation, but i do in film editing. I feel what they did with first movie all the workflow, wire models, motion is somehow repeated and build upon for the second movie,you wouldnt wanna repeat everything again would you? in a post production perspective thats actually suicidal especially the magnitude of the movie,increase cost,labour and time. Even this cgi has made ILM lose some hardware while rendering the movie. You can say the reason why some elements are reused is because it'll create a sense of familiarity and continuity from the original movie and it helps to ingrain in peoples minds. Ermm seriously scorponok not appearing would make wonder if hes dead or alive,its not an extra scene lah, Again the writers put it in so thats that,you have to admit this fellers worked their ass off while their colleagues were participating in the writers strike.

This post has been edited by nimrod323: Jun 25 2009, 08:36 PM

plan to watch a third time hehe,my tip is to go early in the morning around 11 thats when gsc opens,book the earlier ones like 12pm,sure less people even on THX theaters you can find seats