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 E-Ten Glofiish X800 (3.5G), E-Ten New PDA Phone (Sharper VGA Screen)

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TSsean133
post Dec 5 2007, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(jmunchar @ Dec 5 2007, 10:39 AM)
Hows the performance?
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pls refer to the page 1,post 1 for the pictures taken by this babe....
a bit slow for multi-tasking due to the ram size...

but overall is ok... and i heard it's the E-Ten is releasing the new firmware to solve some problems for this model... looking forward for this firmware...

what is really impressive is the VGA screen and the GPS, really work fine...


by the way, i'm not expert for the taking pics, any comment on those pics....

This post has been edited by sean133: Dec 5 2007, 12:13 PM
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post Dec 5 2007, 12:06 PM

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How is the built quality? Where did you get it?
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post Dec 5 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(nas @ Dec 5 2007, 12:06 PM)
How is the built quality? Where did you get it?
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the built quality for the front side is good and nice, for the behind it will be not so nice due to it's quite plastic look...

it's a demo unit sent from singapore...
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post Dec 5 2007, 01:29 PM

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I knew it biggrin.gif

Camera quality is good, looks similar with 2mp SE cybershot quality. Autofocus is great, looks better than 6818, 6838, Atom. Cheaper than O2 Flame smile.gif

Just drooling with this VGA PDAphone =), now only affordable on VGA pda =(.

I think Eten produce among the slimmest VGA pdaphone yet exist, altought somehow underrated, the function and price factor is promising.

btw checkout my blog for VGA theme's tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2007, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Dec 5 2007, 01:29 PM)
I knew it biggrin.gif

Camera quality is good, looks similar with 2mp SE cybershot quality. Autofocus is great, looks better than 6818, 6838, Atom. Cheaper than O2 Flame smile.gif

Just drooling with this VGA PDAphone =), now only affordable on VGA pda =(. 

I think Eten produce among the slimmest VGA pdaphone yet exist, altought somehow underrated, the function and price factor is promising.

btw checkout my blog for VGA theme's tongue.gif
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thanks for the feedback...
VGA theme? maybe i need it as well... thanks in-advance...
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post Dec 6 2007, 08:53 AM

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pics all updated...

pls refer to the 1st post for pics...


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post Dec 7 2007, 09:13 AM

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Another Review by Tracy and Matt's Blog for this E-Ten Glofiish X800...
but they tested on the 128MB ROM only insists of the 256MB ROM which will be release in malaysia...

Please refer to this LINK for more information...
TRACY & MATT'S BLOG
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Eten Glofiish X800 review
November 27th, 2007

Having used the Eten Glofiish X800 for a few days now here are my initial findings.

Firstly, having read a little about this machine, I was expecting it to be larger than I would have liked, as it measures 113.5 x 60.5 x 15.8 mm. Although it is on the large side it is not unpleasant and fits nicely in the hand, and pocket for that matter.

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I was also expecting a wow factor from the VGA screen and this is ultra sharp, but not as vibrant as I would have liked, this has now been resolved, I believe, with a software upgrade from Eten.

The wow factor does come from the 3.5 Mbps HSDPA, application downloads and emails are lightening quick, a 300k file loaded as quick as you could see it! Add to that the fact that it also includes quad-band GSM and EDGE-enabled GPRS, not to mention 3G and GPS. It certainly packs in pretty much everything that you could need or ask for.

What's in the box?
# The X800
# USB sync cable
# AC adaptor
# 2.5mm stereo headset
# spare stylus
# battery
# Getting started software CD's and quickstart guide
# a 'leather' case with belt clip
# screen protector

ETEN Glofiish X800 Specification:
# Windows Mobile 6 Professional
# 500Mhz 32bit Samsung SC32442 CPU
# 128MB ROM, 64MB RAM
# VGA (480x640) Touchscreen
# GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS2100
# CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
# SDIO, microSD, TransFlash
# WiFi: 802.11b, 802.11g
# GPS: SiRF Star III , 20 channels
# Bluetooth 2.0
# 2 Megapixel primary camera
# Front mounted VGA camera for Video calling
# 1530 mAh Lithium Polymer Battery
# 113.5x60.5x15.8 mm
# 160 grams

General

The left side of the PDA holds the volume rocker switch, voice command button, reset hole, and the headset jack.

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X800 left side

On the right side are the power and camera buttons.
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X800 right side

The bottom of the device houses the telescopic stylus, microphone, mini USB slot and the microSD card, which for me is very fiddly with the card being so small, but at least it is accessible without having to take the device apart.

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X800 bottom

The phone does feel solid and well made and it has been well laid out overall. The back of the unit holds the 2 Megapixel primary camera which has autofocus, mirror and a flash, which doubles as a flashlight. And then there is the VGA camera on the front for video calling.

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X800 back

A point to mention here is the back casing, also commented on in Matt's unboxing video, which takes some effort to pull off and you do get the feeling that at some time you are going to break it. Also the first time I put the battery in its holder I didn't notice the two little lugs on the side of the battery and once seated I couldn't get the back cover on, the battery was now wedged in, to the point that it was very difficult to remove it without force, so don't rush in as I did!

The X800 has a number of back-lit buttons. These include a four-way mini-joystick, not being a D pad/joystick user this one isn't bad and is quite nice to use, but isn't it quicker just to tap the screen? The usual 'send' and 'end' call keys, left and right soft keys, a dedicated GPS key for launching the GPS viewer and another to open up a quick launch panel. On top of that there is a Windows button and an OK button used to close apps in a quick and easy fashion. All very useful in themselves but of course the only input method available is the touchscreen as there is no keyboard of any kind.

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X800 Keypad

Software

As I mentioned earlier, even when it's set to the highest brightness, the screen just isn't as bright as it should be. Putting the X800 alongside my existing phone it appeared quite dim. However, this is prior to the ROM upgrade which which has just been released by Eten which promises to address this issue.

Windows Mobile 6 Professional is included which has now become the defacto standard, and the useful additions of a Task Manager icon, and the aforementioned quick launch buttons make this machine very user friendly.

Eten have also included Spb Mobile Shell, a TouchFLO style icon panel from which you can launch popularly used programs, Time and date settings including alarms, 5 day weather and a speed dial tab. All of which are changeable to suit your own preference.

Another mention here of the speed dial softkey which launches a speed dial application, but with this application you get 2 types for input method. The first being a list of your most used and latest dialled numbers on a large keypad for quick redialling, and then you have the option to switch to an index dial, this allows you touch another large keypad containing a number pad and the alphabet, press a letter and it brings up all your contacts that contain that letter, much more usable than the normal Windows contact list.

There is the usual mobile Excel, PowerPoint and Word installed, a program called Location SMS which allows you to send your current location to someone else via SMS, a GPS position updater program which can be manual or automatic, and a GPS viewer to see what satellites you are connecting to and fixed into, either as a compass or as a globe, accessed as I mentioned via either the dedicated GPS button or the screen.

Camera functionality from the 2 megapixel camera is fine, the layout and function buttons are again well thought out, I was impressed with the video quality in various lighting conditions.

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X800 camera

The camera button is in the wrong place in my opinion as whenever I hold the phone my finger naturally rests on the button, when making calls, dialling etc. And more than once I have pressed it and launched the camera without realising.

Highlights
# The speed dial program
# The autofocus on the camera which I have not had before and is a welcome addition.
# The freebies such as the case and screen protector.

Lowlights
# Screen brightness as spoken about now apparently fixed.
# Voice call quality was also awful, on more than one occasion I had to use speakerphone to understand the person I was talking to, but once again Eten have addressed this problem in the latest ROM update which is already available. Having run this patch it is much improved.
# The 500 MHz 32bit Samsung processor, seems a bit unreliable, most of the time things run really quickly but annoyingly at times it takes forever to get going.

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Conclusion

The size of the unit could be an issue for some, I thought it would be for me but it is not a problem. It is a more than capable machine and I am sure that with a bit more use and a bit more familiarity I could get really used to it on a day to day basis. The niggles with the screen and call quality appear to be behind us.

I haven't seen anyone quote battery expectancy as yet, I did come across an alleged 7 hours talk time and 150 hours standby. I found that with normal daily use with a little internet surfing and phone calls I would get around 2 days, heavier use today resulted in a score of 40% life left. Obviously it really depends on what you are using it for as to how much time you will get.

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Looks like the Eten range is set to challenge the 'big boys' and with the range they have now it is likely that they will fair very well, it has one or two gripes but well worth considering, and very capable.

Review by: Steve

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post Dec 7 2007, 11:40 AM

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i only know eten pdaphone tends to have alot of small minor and quite annoying problems... hesitated to get etens product but i know their specs is very competitive. take eten m700 for instance, the specs is way better than any available PDAphone that time but the feedback is that the msging bug and keyboard already enough to turn me away.
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gorgeous vga screen, i often wonder, why can't manufacturers get it right and corner the mkt effectively ??? in this case all they have to do is provide 128MB ram instead of 64 .. what a waste tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Dec 7 2007, 11:40 AM)
i only know eten pdaphone tends to have alot of small minor and quite annoying problems... hesitated to get etens product but i know their specs is very competitive. take eten m700 for instance, the specs is way better than any available PDAphone that time but the feedback is that the msging bug and keyboard already enough to turn me away.
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Bro .. most will have fixes by next 6 months.. if you are not an enthusiast, you may wait till all bugs are discovered and fixed.. wink.gif...
by then most PDA forums would have ready solutions..
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post Dec 10 2007, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(mych @ Dec 8 2007, 02:16 AM)
Bro .. most will have fixes by next 6 months.. if you are not an enthusiast, you may wait till all bugs are discovered and fixed.. wink.gif...
by then most PDA forums would have ready solutions..
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agreed with u, and what i heard from sg is the 1st patch of this X800 which come into malaysia will have the latest firmware which fix those bugs...

it does help on those bugs for the new firmware released...
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yeah, i do know about the fixes in firmware release. but waiting for the firmware takes some time and i would be annoyed and sell that pda by then, if i own any. If the latest firmware is installed during the 1st batch to arrive in malaysia, i dont mind putting a second look. wink.gif


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post Dec 10 2007, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Dec 10 2007, 09:38 AM)
yeah, i do know about the fixes in firmware release. but waiting for the firmware takes some time and i would be annoyed and sell that pda by then, if i own any. If the latest firmware is installed during the 1st batch to arrive in malaysia, i dont mind putting a second look. wink.gif
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that's what i heard about the new firmware release, so we should wait the official announced by the E-Ten Glofiish about the new firmware released and install inside the batch..

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post Dec 12 2007, 09:45 AM

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The First Batch of this model Glofiish X800 will be available by next week, 18 December 2007...


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QUOTE(sean133 @ Dec 12 2007, 09:45 AM)
The First Batch of this model Glofiish X800 will be available by next week, 18 December 2007...


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personally you think this handheld is good? the first batch of this X800 come with the firmware that fix the problem?? the retail price come with any accessory? where is the place to get this in KL?? really interested with this baby..... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 13 2007, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Dec 12 2007, 04:48 PM)
personally you think this handheld is good? the first batch of this X800 come with the firmware that fix the problem?? the retail price come with any accessory? where is the place to get this in KL?? really interested with this baby..... thumbup.gif
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1. this handheld is consider ok and is 3.5G & VGA Screen (480X640) PDA with RM 2499...

2. the 1st patch of X800 will released with firmware update...

3. the phone is come with phone, stylus, USB SYNC Cable, AC adapter, stereo headset, battery, Lether Case(Pouch), QuickStart Guide and 1 Getting started CD...

4. Can start to explore it in Lowyat Plaza by next week, i think so...


anything extra, maybe i will try to explain it next time when i get update...
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QUOTE(sean133 @ Dec 13 2007, 09:32 AM)
1. this handheld is consider ok and is 3.5G & VGA Screen (480X640) PDA with RM 2499...

2. the 1st patch of X800 will released with firmware update...

3. the phone is come with phone, stylus, USB SYNC Cable, AC adapter, stereo headset, battery, Lether Case(Pouch), QuickStart Guide and 1 Getting started CD...

4. Can start to explore it in Lowyat Plaza by next week, i think so...
anything extra, maybe i will try to explain it next time when i get update...
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Dude,

thanks for your help... really appreaciate it notworthy.gif ....i will go to lowyat plaza next saturday and get this awesome baby...... thanks ya....
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i willing to take my chances actually, but i am eyeing on asus p750 as well.

considering the price will be rm2499, it is very very competitive to other brands. even tytn II oso need to sked awhile.
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post Dec 13 2007, 04:58 PM

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just give a called to Mobile Dot Com Network Sdn Bhd this afternoon and they said most probably launched next week and the retail price as mentioned by sean at RM2499.00. looking forward to next week .... but is it better to get it once it launch or wait a bit longer to have better promotion (if any)?? tongue.gif


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actually i give a call to PDA Expert before Mobile Dot Com Network , but PDA answer is they not sure when to launch and how much yet... then i call Mobile Dot Com Network and they have the answer for me rclxms.gif here is the list of retailer of this eten in malaysia....http://www.glofiish.com/wheretobuy_malaysia.htm


Added on December 15, 2007, 10:14 am
QUOTE(sean133 @ Dec 13 2007, 09:32 AM)
1. this handheld is consider ok and is 3.5G & VGA Screen (480X640) PDA with RM 2499...

2. the 1st patch of X800 will released with firmware update...

3. the phone is come with phone, stylus, USB SYNC Cable, AC adapter, stereo headset, battery, Lether Case(Pouch), QuickStart Guide and 1 Getting started CD...

4. Can start to explore it in Lowyat Plaza by next week, i think so...
anything extra, maybe i will try to explain it next time when i get update...
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hi dude,

want to ask you that what gps software u currently using?? mapking??

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post Dec 17 2007, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Dec 13 2007, 04:58 PM)
hi dude,

want to ask  you that what gps software u currently using?? mapking??
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currently i am using the mapking v10... not the latest version... not all the map updated, but still ok for me...


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