Yo matt2001! We were at myjunk's car during the journey back home right? lol. Anyway, here comes the "zoo's most expensive table". lol. Guess how much this table cost? Nikon+Sony+Pentax+Canon. lol.

abohthen?

welcome to the club, remember to join our next outing, whenever that is

Why should you use kit lens?

let's see........

sure, many people will tell you "kit lens" suck but don't let them get you down.

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Added on January 10, 2008, 1:56 amI'd like to add. people will eventually progress from their kit lens as there are many better lens out there, but that doesn't mean kit lens can't produce nice images.

You want to use for what?

my mind wedding dinner also.

hmm, u going to be the main photog for the dinner?

ah i see. for relative right. then I supposed to doing it for free.
good luck.

i think your uncle should already have hired a wedding photographer to do their albums etc, which usually include wedding dinner coverage.

if he wants u to be the main wedding dinner photog, it is seriously not easy. follow the groom everywhere to take photo etc.
even he don't officially pay you, maybe he'll give you a big angpau leh.

hey all, is rm2450 for 400d kit + 2gb ok? i going to get my first dslr with 0 skill.  anyway what else should i get. the uv thing? lol. its 28 bucks..

cool. how much ah both? can replace kit liao, if cheap.

Sigma 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 DC OS still around RM 1.7k to 1.8k range.

Ah.sorry my bad.the rm1.4k one is the version without the OS right? paiseh.

maybe we can make a trip up to penang, batu ferringhi we can take the beach and sunset , yeh

really ! ?

i dont think so many people can go .. must spend a lot one.

Not a bad idea. We can meet up with members from Penang as well but this will need more planning la. Hehe, shooting the people at the beach will be fun 

not bad also, but this one need to get plan early and everyone must confirm first if not troublesome

WOW penang? maybe a overnight stay there? im all for it! but hopefully its during holidays lar.

i put it this way

to me, it's really great to have one. can go from 18 to 200 in split seconds.

the bokeh not so great la, compare at 200mm vs F4L and such. even at 50mm you can't go f2.8 or higher.

however have to give and take la. IQ of course, sure cannot fight them L ranges but then it's not a sucky lens.

during the recent bird park outing, it was a whole day with the 18-200 OS. Yup! all the way. It has replaced my kit lens and my 70-300 altogether.

I'll give u an answer to that question too, coz i had that problem once before because of money problem. It depends on your shooting style. Lets say if you always go shooting under low light situations, get the flash first. if you always go shooting under the daylight, get the sigma first.

But then, flash is not only for low light situations. It can be used in a lot of situations... lets say, light source is coming from the right side, if u shoot without flash. There will be shadow on the left side of the object. So flash gun plays an important role here to get rid of the shadow on the left side IF u do not want the shadow to be there. To do this, one of the technique is to bounce the flash from the left, here is just an example of the use of flash gun. If i want to talk about flash photography, i think one whole page also not enough.. too much to learn in photography. So i think no matter what, flashgun is something that u may not regret of getting it too early. You will need it in the future.

As for the sigma. Yes it can replace the 18~55mm. So no harm getting it. BUT there are a lot of choices of lenses out there. Dont just have one choice of lens in mind, go do a research. Compare different lens with the same range of prices. Maybe, find out what you need, the 18~55mm can also shoot nice photos. It all depends on your skills, i see a lot of people shooting with L lens, because of their skill, the pictures they took are like taken from normal lenses. So no matter what lens u are going to buy. Test kao kao first, and buy it if u really like it.

In the world of photography, you will never stop spending.