yup, a lot of warr are complaining about this, i dun blame em, i have a warr too, and it sucks being prot spec as it is VERY hard to solo. even AT LEVEL 70! and u wont get a lot of invites being arms/fury due to the threat problem. unless u have ss, drood/pally are imo better tankers in those 5mans mob pull. however, if ur the grinding type, taking multiple lower lvls mob was the most feasible way for me to lvl in outland. for doing solo quests however, its not that bad or hard. just a little bit SLOWER.

warrs are the MOST gear based class. tanking in ur dps gear means = u cant tank at all

and i do find it hard to tank without ss+devastate, and u can spec prot and use dps gears for soloing, but need to have BS and mining for the gears. thats the hard part

the 2 spammable macros that i used:

/cast [stance:2] Sunder Armor; Defensive Stance
/cast Heroic Strike
/startattack

for rage dump, SA will trigger gcd, Hs will not

and

/cast [stance:2] Revenge; Defensive Stance
/cast Shield Block

for SB+revenge. as for ur lvl and gear, i think it will procs more on blocks. so its quite spammable.

if ur grup cant dps properly becoz u cant hold aggro, then its YOUR fault. and would get less invites so on for heroics. i would prefer a rouge>fury/arms warr in heroics any time. decent and less retarded warr tanks are kinda hard to find tho. thank god for the droods and prot pallys

im not generalizing about retards rolling warriors, i have a warr too and i understand what are u trying to say. it is just that im freakin tired of "OMG wth is my heals?" or "why the f%#! did u pull aggro" questions popping up just becoz the tank(most of the time, warrs) cant do s%#! keeping aggro. l2ragedump, read up guides on rotation. thinks all priest/pally/druid/shammy want to spec healing while farming/grinding? hell no. GTFO and respec if u cant hold aggro. period. and if u managed to get to do heroics without being prot, then i really pity ur healer. he must be really nice churning out golds for repairs and consumables. becoz when a group wipes, 99% of them will say its the freaking healer's mistake. nice MTFOs

ever wonder why theres always the lack of tanks and healers in LFG? becoz most of them found out that its not easy tanking or healing for PUGs. most of them quit while lvling and rolled a dps class instead. who the f@#! notices when ur slacking/made a mistake? unlike dps classes, others ability to solo gimped greatly when specced tank/heal. so if im speced holy to heal ur ass in heroics, i would appreciate it more if u would do likewise with ur class. if not i just rage hearth

yes dps class can aggro dump. like spriests fade, rouges vanish, mage and lock also got but with longer cd. warriors? none. and most of thier skills are meant to generate threat anyway. thus a lot of fury ones QQ-ing about not getting invites. 25mans? they are there to OT. if the fight doesnt requires that, then he will be dps-ing. but only for 1 raid spot that is.

fury warrs are l33t. look them up in BG9. theres a couple of them. and a lot of them on Tich sv.

what i meant earlier was that i would prefer a pally/drood tanks for heroics. as for non ones, i would only heal if the tank is a pally/drood. WAY MUCH EASIER . any time. over a warr who doesnt have the gear or even spec-ed right. u might find it all fine tanking without the nessecities, but it would trouble the healer(s) more. roll a healbot class and try to heal retards. u will understand

This post has been edited by [^-^]fumoffu: Dec 5 2007, 03:10 AM