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TSaaltong
post Nov 29 2007, 10:43 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi all, been lurker here for quite some time now.
played WOW for two months plus and got really hooked on it.
I'm lvl61 orc warrior and start lvl'ing at outland already.
I was wondering, do you guys (fellow warrior) respec. to prot once reach outland?
Or continue arm or fury spec. until certian lvl ??
now i keep receive request to join raid as MT, but no being prot spec. and without SS, i find it a bit hard to hold aggro.
before that i seldom do raid while lvling to 60. and when i do, i don't seem to have much problem there, and people do not aspect you to be prot. spec. before lvl60.
Therefore i was wondering should i respec to prot. spec now that i'm in outland ?
If prot spec. how do all you handle solo quest ? won't that be really hard?
some suggested respec. to prot and have two sets of gears (DPS gears and prot gears), but at lvl61 gears is still crappy.
I think i will still have problem lvling up even with DPS gears in prot. spec.
Really confused and not sure which direction should i go. Any suggestion ??





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post Nov 29 2007, 10:48 AM

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Hi... i'm not at your level yet but i understand how u feel.
I can't hold aggro too...

taunt is only for solo mobs and most of the time i just spam sunder/HS/TC to keep aggro high.
but when it's a bigger mob, my team is in trouble.

Would like some pro warrior's feedback on this.
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Nov 29 2007, 10:48 AM)
Hi... i'm not at your level yet but i understand how u feel.
I can't hold aggro too...

taunt is only for solo mobs and most of the time i just spam sunder/HS/TC to keep aggro high.
but when it's a bigger mob, my team is in trouble.

Would like some pro warrior's feedback on this.
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haha...
guess all warrior will be going thru the same phase like this.



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post Nov 29 2007, 12:03 PM

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aaltong: For specs, its a matter of individual preference, some prefer to level with arms, some with fury and yes some even with prot. Its your choice really.

Well, as for holding agro... what you can do is tell them upfront you're not prot and ask them hold back dps until you are comfortable, e.g. say 2 - 3 sunders or 5secs?

That should work fine. Hope this helps bro! smile.gif


King83: you're missing revenge from that list of abilities you use. That is a very good tanking ability.

This post has been edited by saingau: Nov 29 2007, 12:04 PM
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post Nov 29 2007, 12:16 PM

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oh yeah, revenge tongue.gif

but revenge very hard to spot...
unlike OP, whenever i see the word DODGE, my finger will auto press OP key.
Revenge is harder to spot, hafta see the icon.
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post Nov 29 2007, 01:04 PM

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From what my guild MT told me once, spec Fury until reaching lvl 70. Then you'll have to decide whether you want to be DPS or tanking.

In normal instances, you can still be Fury spec and still be able to tank. And yes, including level 70 instances. I've been in PUG runs where the tanks are not Prot Warriors so it's doable and yes when we go full out on DPS (then again, PUG group DPS is bad anyways). Provided that you get good players and all.
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post Nov 29 2007, 02:40 PM

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welcome to Outland mate...
glad to hear a pro-photographer who had joined WoW...lol

btw a bit off topic, i love see your photo shooting collections...
especially those potraits whereby comparable with shinchan's collections...
cheerz! biggrin.gif
TSaaltong
post Nov 29 2007, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(saingau @ Nov 29 2007, 12:03 PM)
Well, as for holding agro... what you can do is tell them upfront you're not prot and ask them hold back dps until you are comfortable, e.g. say 2 - 3 sunders or 5secs?
That should work fine. Hope this helps bro! smile.gif
Yah, i should do that more often. but the shiz like "what ? u not prot. spec yet?", "U don't have SS!! OMG !", and etc, do fruz me some time. doh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(myremi @ Nov 29 2007, 01:04 PM)
From what my guild MT told me once, spec Fury until reaching lvl 70. Then you'll have to decide whether you want to be DPS or tanking.
In normal instances, you can still be Fury spec and still be able to tank. And yes, including level 70 instances. I've been in PUG runs where the tanks are not Prot Warriors so it's doable and yes when we go full out on DPS (then again, PUG group DPS is bad anyways). Provided that you get good players and all.
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I been thinking of changing my arm spec. to fury spec. maybe this is good time to try. know any good talent spec. to refer? too bad at work, i can't surf WoW official forum/website sad.gif


QUOTE(ch@ich@i @ Nov 29 2007, 02:40 PM)
welcome to Outland mate...
glad to hear a pro-photographer who had joined WoW...lol

btw a bit off topic, i love see your photo shooting collections...
especially those potraits whereby comparable with shinchan's collections...
cheerz! biggrin.gif
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hahaha.... way way way OT lar!! sweat.gif
Anyway, because of WoW, i shoot much less now. tongue.gif
once i reach lvl70, i think can lay off a bit on WoW amd get back to my photography more.... or would i be get addicted more with WoW? shocking.gif
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:49 PM

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Some links that I keep in my Fav list.

http://www.tankingtips.com/
http://www.tankspot.com/
http://www.tankhard.com/

But when it comes to raiding, that's a different ballgame. Then everyone goes to http://www.elitistjerks.com . For sure you can find the information here.
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post Nov 29 2007, 04:18 PM

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myremi, why u keep that? laugh.gif
you don't have a warrior char laugh.gif
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post Nov 29 2007, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Nov 29 2007, 12:16 PM)
oh yeah, revenge tongue.gif

but revenge very hard to spot...
unlike OP, whenever i see the word DODGE, my finger will auto press OP key.
Revenge is harder to spot, hafta see the icon.
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Try installing SCT (scrolling combat text) It will pop up Overpower or Revenge icon when you can use it..... It helps me alot.....
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post Nov 29 2007, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(aaltong @ Nov 29 2007, 10:43 AM)
Hi all, been lurker here for quite some time now.
played WOW for two months plus and got really hooked on it.
I'm lvl61 orc warrior and start lvl'ing at outland already.
I was wondering, do you guys (fellow warrior) respec. to prot once reach outland?
Or continue arm or fury spec. until certian lvl ??
now i keep receive request to join raid as MT, but no being prot spec. and without SS, i find it a bit hard to hold aggro.
before that i seldom do raid while lvling to 60. and when i do, i don't seem to have much problem there, and people do not aspect you to be prot. spec. before lvl60.
Therefore i was wondering should i respec to prot. spec now that i'm in outland ?
If prot spec. how do all you handle solo quest ? won't that be really hard?
some suggested respec. to prot and have two sets of gears (DPS gears and prot gears), but at lvl61 gears is still crappy.
I think i will still have problem lvling up even with DPS gears in prot. spec.
Really confused and not sure which direction should i go. Any suggestion ??
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yup, a lot of warr are complaining about this, i dun blame em, i have a warr too, and it sucks being prot spec as it is VERY hard to solo. even AT LEVEL 70! and u wont get a lot of invites being arms/fury due to the threat problem. unless u have ss, drood/pally are imo better tankers in those 5mans mob pull. however, if ur the grinding type, taking multiple lower lvls mob was the most feasible way for me to lvl in outland. for doing solo quests however, its not that bad or hard. just a little bit SLOWER.

warrs are the MOST gear based class. tanking in ur dps gear means = u cant tank at all

and i do find it hard to tank without ss+devastate, and u can spec prot and use dps gears for soloing, but need to have BS and mining for the gears. thats the hard part tongue.gif

the 2 spammable macros that i used:

/cast [stance:2] Sunder Armor; Defensive Stance
/cast Heroic Strike
/startattack

for rage dump, SA will trigger gcd, Hs will not

and

/cast [stance:2] Revenge; Defensive Stance
/cast Shield Block

for SB+revenge. as for ur lvl and gear, i think it will procs more on blocks. so its quite spammable.



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QUOTE(King83 @ Nov 29 2007, 04:18 PM)
myremi, why u keep that?  laugh.gif
you don't have a warrior char  laugh.gif
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i keep it in case i need the info. besides, having only one lvl70 raiding character so i try to learn how the other classes tick.

lvl17 warrior
lvl18 shaman
lvl26 lock
lvl49 hunter
lvl11 mage
lvl5 rogue
lvl10 pally

was that bored.
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post Nov 30 2007, 08:23 AM

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It takes 10 level70 chars to be certified as an official wow nerd.
Guess u're not a nerd.
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE([^-^]fumoffu @ Nov 29 2007, 05:39 PM)
and i do find it hard to tank without ss+devastate, and u can spec prot and use dps gears for soloing, but need to have BS and mining for the gears. thats the hard part  tongue.gif
So you are saing that prot. spec. with DPS gears are doable when soloing right?

Hmm... maybe will try hbrid spec. either fury/prot or arm/prot until reach lvl70. then change to full prot once lvl70.
Thanks for the macro. will try it out soon.

QUOTE(myremi @ Nov 29 2007, 08:58 PM)
i keep it in case i need the info. besides, having only one lvl70 raiding character so i try to learn how the other classes tick.

lvl17 warrior
lvl18 shaman
lvl26 lock
lvl49 hunter
lvl11 mage
lvl5 rogue
lvl10 pally

was that bored.
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From your list there...i guess you are lvl70 warlock, right ? laugh.gif
i have an alt warlock sitting at lvl27. very fun to play and less painful. lol
something different from malee class.
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:47 AM

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I plan to create a tanker char...

should i go Orc or Tauren?

I think Orc is the better choice cos the 15% stun resist trait + iron will for a total of 30% resist will really make a big difference.
On the other hand, i like Tauren's look better cos their big blink.gif 5% extra to total hp won't hurt either cos i think hp comes into play more often than stun resist.
But, does the 5% really make any difference towards end game?

your take on this?
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post Nov 30 2007, 11:22 AM

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Prot spec - dps gear - dw weapons - devastate spam. Its really not that bad. Solo farm decently but tank awesomely.
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post Nov 30 2007, 12:18 PM

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i spec fury for raid, prot for heroic(sometimes if i cant get a group for dps war) n ms for pvp(weekend), but i was fury while lvlg (outland included), no problem tanking bf, ramp,sp, mana tomb(massive aoe from my mage, clear adds fast), revenge is a must, spam sunders n heroic strike, get 2set of gears, u shud be fine tongue.gif, if ure not ask ur group to get omen/ktm to control their threat haha but later i found out i cant keep aggro in slab, so if ure going to be mt u must be in prot lol, but once ure 70 respec is a routine n gold is not a problem, juz do dailies n u shud be ok, i didnt respec until i reach 70, fastest way to kill mobs is in fury, best talent build for fury war is 17/44. get 17 in arms until impale, n the rest in fury tree until bloodthirst, the choice where to put the points is depends on ur playing style, gudluck n ave fun, more information at www.tankspot.com
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eh king there is an option in the interface option to pop out a word for you to use a skill when it can be used for exp when ppl dodge my atks it will pop MONGSE BITE


Added on December 2, 2007, 8:52 pmoh and i think 5% might big diffrence in tanking, for example kurei has 17484 hp and 5% out of that is 874hp extra....so he would have 18358hp :/ idk but i rather 18k hp lol.....and this is counting the "gear" kurei has that dam show off undead warrior lol jkjk

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