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 Lets Talk Salary! v2, What is the Industry Rate?We Must Unite

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post Feb 21 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 21 2009, 02:21 PM)
most MNC still afford those microsoft/oracle product

what i mean is if the company you interview is looking for open source expert and you qualify for it, you can request for 10k easily as knowledge NOT LUCK that bring you good salary ... malaysia really lack of open source expert
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It's could be the other way round.

The reason companies are looking for open source is because it's cheap or free. Either because they have no money or because they are stingy. So there is no reason why they would pay more money in salaries. In fact, they are more likely to pay less.
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post Feb 21 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Feb 21 2009, 05:27 PM)
do u hv any idea how much is the yearly maintenance for oracle license or other enterprise software license? sometimes, the yearly maintenance alone cost like few hundred k...  whistling.gif
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Yes, I do. Standard Edition? Enterprise Edition? With RAC? Or the numerous options like Partitioning? etc. They are all price differently.

Are you just asking a question, or do you have a point?
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post Feb 21 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Feb 21 2009, 06:22 PM)
let say the total cost of the oracle maintenance for company A is 300k per year and now they move to MySQL which is open source. most probably they won't mind to hire someone who is good at this at a premium price since they alrdy save a lot from the maintenance.  blush.gif
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I know what you are getting at, and it sounds like a reasonable argument.

But in practice, it often doesnt' work that way. If a company makes a move from Oracle to MySQL and this is very very rare, the main driver would be cost savings. Apart from the savings in licensing and maintenance, the added attractiveness is they do not have to pay a premium for Oracle personnel. So, maybe they wouldn't underpay a MySQL person, but I don't think they will be looking to pay a premium.
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post Feb 22 2009, 10:37 AM

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Sorry, I don't believe someone with 2yr experience is getting 6.5K basic.
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post Mar 13 2009, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(duhdude @ Mar 13 2009, 09:51 PM)
It is hard to believe your friend get 5 figures salary with 4-5 years experience.
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Not referring to any post in particular, but it is safe to say there are a few "inflated" salaries mentioned in this thread.
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post Mar 21 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Mar 21 2009, 03:07 AM)
IT field pay like crazy.. i think maybe the profit margin for IT business is very high.. normally offer service to client only and the charges damn expensive.. like my office just setup network rm2000 for 2 days. then if need them to come 1 hour RM100 @_@!


Added on March 21, 2009, 3:08 amand the work done by 1 experience person and 1 junior assistant..
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It's not quite what you think. RM100/hour may seem like a lot, but it's for their knowledge/expertise and well as their time. There is a lot of knowledge packed into that 1 hour time. Because of their expertise, they need only charge you say, 2 hours instead of 10. Alternatively, you could hire someone for 2 bucks/hour for 10 hours but I doubt they can help you much with your network.

Secondly, what you are paying the company is not necessarily what they are paying their staff...
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QUOTE(boo82 @ Apr 4 2009, 04:13 PM)
Working hrs: 8:30am - 6pm. Sometime have to work during weekends if there are projects or problems occur on the servers.

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For weekends, you get OT? What's that like?
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post Sep 4 2009, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(bullys @ Sep 4 2009, 01:28 PM)
I had this experience before. I would like to share a situation that i've done myself. its works, but u must really confident on what u capable of. chances, hurm.. 50-50 i would say..

its my 2nd day on a new company, and another company call for an interview. so i didnt really thinking of moving again, but i just go and try my luck.

talk as i am.tell what i have done and i just be myself.
Interviewer: What ur expecting salary?

Me: Rm4000 (i saw in the advertisement before, the job offer 1800. Hehe)

Interviewer: we offering only 1800, as you are fresh grad in the industry. why u expect 4000?

Me: I have the knowledge, capabilities that worth 4000 and i strongly believe i could make more than that for this company.

(bla bla bla.. some of the chit chat.. then i go home.)
3 weeks later, they call if i would take the job if they offer 3100. but then i said if 4000 then i take it. few of nice talk again, hang up.

a week after that, they call again and offer for 3800. but too bad, i'm already move to another company who offer better.

Moral of the story, i think any interview we go, the important is CONFIDENT and BE YOURSELF.
others will come to you, if its yours. smile.gif
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Unlikely to be true.

There's plenty of fresh graduates around. No particular reason to keep increasing their offer unless there's no other graduates around, or you have specialized skills not easy to find which would not be the case since you are a fresh graduate.



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