To me reasonable for you is RM2k-2.5k max....if you want to further your career, you have to improve your personal skill & education. Btw, the figure i mentioned is a over estimate for you. Your age is young & low education level.

Age : 27
Job Title : Regional Product Engineer
Job Description : Product support, sales & marketing for South East Asia & must travel <50 times/year
Years spent in company : 2 month
Company : Engineering Industrial (MNC)
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining : 6 years (production & project management)
Location : Selangor
Salary : RM 4200 + travel claim & allowance(appro 1k/month)
Benefit : Mileage claim (0.78/km), travel allowance, medical & insurance etc.
Working Hour: 8:00am-5:15pm, Monday - Friday

Managers is everywhere out there, but question is how many capable manager out there?The tittle manager is nice but the pay is the most important. My ex production manager pay is just equal to my pay now which im just regional product engineer.

Age: 27
Job Title : Regional Sales Engineer
Job Description : Responsible for sales & marketing activities of the product within local & ASEAN countries
Years spent in company : Just started
Industry : Water environment
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : 6 years working experience
Salary : RM 3600 basic
Employee Benefits : RM 200 allowance, mileage claim for petrol, 1% commision scheme(personal sales + distributor sales account)
Working hours: 8.30am - 5.30pm, 5 day work.

basically for sales inclusive commision has no a estimate figure you earn...you can earn 5k,10k,20k or more...the figure is infinity...not like basic pay only fix monthly.....before hop into sales currently, i was being a fix pay engineer pay...as i survey mostly sales basic is range from 2k-3k....average sales ppl will get only <2.6k....hardly reach 3k unless you are experience....recently i got an sales offering me Rm3.6k basic, 1% commision scheme + 200 allowance + petrol as per mileage claim....

as i said is very subjective figure to mentioned how much average a sales line ppl earning. It also depends your own satisfaction & aggresive enough to earn more. To figure line is no limitation. Some sales ppl satisfy with average commision 1-2k, but some wil set 3-5k, & also some will set 10k above....so its up to you to determine you desire salary figure in sales line.

MBA does not guarantee you a promotion.

This is impress me!!!!....cant imagine a fresh graduate without any working experience & exposure can earn that pay...what evaluation determine that impressive pay....

debbieyss!!

First, i dont see you are underpaid base on your working experience. A work that you stay less than a years employer would not consider as your career profile mostly. So in future at least stay your job for at least 2 years. You can claim any facts that you learned, but that is the GAME out career world.

surveyor!!
Also i don't feel your friend is underpaid also. WIth a fresh grad pay of Rm3k that is simply owesome. Does it because is O&G it has to be higher or it suppose to measure in term of individual competent & experience? Let me ask, what your friend will able to contribute to the organisation or the team with its minimal experience as a gresh grad? DO you aspect a RM5k for a fresh grad is consider reasonable?

In short, everything is back to basic. Academic & experience has to combine as integration to maximise your career value & prospect. Be well grounded before you demand. Everyone wants to climb up the corporate or suceess in earning more, and times will bring you there once you are well grounded which the experience here that i mentioned. From the 1-5 year, is your learning path which is not your demand power, as here its depend how initiative and eager of you to success in your career.

This post has been edited by Gary1981: Jan 2 2009, 09:44 AM

As this is relation to integration of academic & working experience. People & organisation in this lattice world is continuous improving their skills & competency. Both has to weight simultaneously or neither of them which is more important. Besides, MBA could equiped you with a "Well Grounded" skills not just limited to an management organisation, but instead it could helpful to be businessman.


Is Degree in E&E, Mechanical, Computing, BA, Accounting, Finance & etc is very common,anywhere, everywhere?so why bother of the competitiveness?

Maybe you should rephrase more precisely that technician rarely get "basic" pay of RM2.3k but can earning more than this RM2.3k(due to OT).

Normally we always claim ourself worth more that what we gain. But how true is it, the answer is definite not from yourself. Does anyone had claim themselves overpaid?
I can share my opinion with you. I have the same thinking with you. I normally sent out resume for interview after attached in an employer for about 2 years. From this, you will know roughly your market value. This is how i anticipate whether im underpaid or overpaid.

You have a elegant position title. With that title you carried, you should earning at least 5 figure basic.

@IDK
At least to me yes. What serves if employer recruit u as a senior manager but yet paying you little tiny of a workers pay & yet not doing a senior manager job responsibilities. A customer of mine giving me name card tittle of General Manager, but indeed he is a "sales executive" pay. In short, he has 2 name card to distribute.

tehtarikais
You dont think its fancy of your title..then i tell you are holding a senior manager title which is on par as a top management team.