McD Saturday nite is ok with me, but I need transport. @meno?

Bring your catalog as well ok?

This one can also..and I might have transport of my own..though I won't be able to fetch anybody, sorry pmmonkey

Been there, done that..
Queensbay is not that far actually..only 45 mins at most..

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Dec 14 2007, 08:13 AM

Here's the rest of my log while playing with my F3. For those who haven't read the first part, its here -> Link

Underclocking

Btw, the fan is spinning, its just that the camera flash makes it look stopped.


Seriously, take a good look at the temp ..here's a screenie so you can read it better

Keep in mind this is under full load. Green line seems to be the motherboard's own CPU sensor, while Red line seems to be the core diode. However, I can't guarantee this, as the green line did give some very weird readings sometimes..

And on idle..its like the processor isn't running at all..its so cold...


And this is something you don't see every day..

Hello..is the PC on? Its too quiet... Seriously, you have no idea what a shock this is the first time you actually do it..

Screenie-here you can see how I do my undervolting. I'm a bit disappointed that I couldn't reach my target speed at 0.8v, but its a substantial improvement over the F2.

Here, the green line is still the CPU temp, but the red line is the PWM, and the grey line is supposedly the CPU core diode.

On full load I encountered an unexpected problem. The CPU was still a long way off from overheating, but the onboard display kept freezing because the NB (which contains the GF6150) was starting to overheat because there was no air coming from the CPU fan. So I pulled off the 70mm stock heatsink fan and put it on the NB, setting it to the lowest power setting it could handle while still spinning. So after all that screwups, here's what I got.

The temp hasn't peaked out yet, but I doubt it'll touch 60C even if I left it overnight. I was running short of time, so I had to get on with the overclocking.

Overclocking (this is a repost of what my post in the AM2 OC thread

To be honest, there's not much to say this time, just a couple of screenies only.

My initial OC with the F3


And for my OC record, which I did not have any time to optimise settings (I was in a hurry),


This post has been edited by lohwenli: Dec 14 2007, 08:36 AM

Yeah, it was kinda warm, no aircon and only a miserable wall fan. Hardly the idea environment to be doing any real tweaking, but I didn't have much choice. Besides, I needed to be sure it was stable even under poor conditions.

Not yet, no time to do it, and can't afford the risk of corrupting windows cos I won't be around to fix it.

About TT tomorrow, wat time?

Obviously the GTS la..

I didn't notice this the first time reading though..but seriously wtf? Since when temps can go up when there's not enough power

If you boot it up, can you at least see the boot up screen (BIOS, the windows screen with the loading bar)? If yes, then the problem is with your display resolution and refresh settings-LCDs usually will not tolerate the same refresh settings as CRTs. If thats the case, here's how you can fix it, hit F8 just after the bios screen to call up the windows boot menu, if you get to the loading bar screen you've missed it already, restart and try again. Once you get to the boot menu, select Enable VGA Mode, then proceed with a normal startup. Windows will start with the lowest display settings, and then you can set it back up in windows. If you accidentally set the settings too high and the screen blacks out, don't do anything for 30 sec and it will return you to the last setting.

1. Its about the same as the 8800gt. The 3850 is slightly cooler. Actual temp will depend on what cooler design the manufacturer chooses to use.
2. I'm not sure, depends on where you're asking. My guess is probably 256mb for RM660, but I might be wrong.
3. Yes, if you intend to play games at your screen's native resolution. Resolution is the no 1 thing that makan video memory, followed by AA & Aniso filtering
4. This one I don't know..malas to read so many reviews..I like the palit and galaxy ones though, but feel free to pick your own, this is just my personal preference, not a recommendation. Try to get those with 1ns ram, the ram will be able to run 2000 for sure even if the card says only 1800.

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Dec 17 2007, 09:12 AM

I didn't say the temp is the same..heat output is almost the same..
Temp will still depend on wat cooler is used..

10 years?
Even I also dare not make a recommendation..Most also I'm willing to say 5 years guaranteed, longer than that I can only be 80% sure it will still survive..
Among PSUs that have a chance to survive that long are server PSUs, or some

But if you're willing to reduce your target to 5 years, then you can pick any 450W model or above from the selection below.
Corsair (a bit expensive, but better than most, since manufactured by Seasonic)
Coolermaster Real Power (the 1000W one is a seriously good, it better than quite a lot of other 1KW units)
Tagan
Acbel
Thermaltake Toughpower

2nd priority picks (these PSUs are not actually bad, its just that there are some rumours I haven't fully checked out yet)
FSP/Fortron
Silverstone
Antec

This one overkill la..can power almost 3 units of his PC at once..

A 500-600W PSU will last you for at least another 1-2 upgrades, after that is hard to say, uncertain how things will be then. Generally for PC stuff now planning upgrades into the future further than 2 years is not practical.

PSU makers cashing in due to the drastic price drop in high performance hardware=high power consumption. Frankly, even with quad core & SLI, its hard to get beyond 500-600W. And you'll know, because after half an hour for sure your room will feel damn warm..

Increase? Not really. Pretty much for CPUs its topped out around 130W regardless of what CPU it is (of course overclocking not counted la). Its GPUs that are frightening these days, a 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra takes up more power than a typical CPU, and a 2900XT breaks all records, coming in at almost 200W for the card alone.

Don't worry..I'll drag him out whenever possible..

I'm from main campus..hard for me to go over and join you guys..

I had a short sms conversation with KC last nite, he seems quite serious this time. In the meantime I will mantain our OC database.

TrOwA008 suggested we meet up more regularly, how about every month for a start? And perhaps can have a full day gathering sometime soon, we pool some money and rent a small hall somewhere, bring all our PCs and have our own lan/OC party.

What on earth does your mom do until need CF?


We'll have to soon, as KC probably won't be able to mantain the front page.

Haha..both of us certainly know the answer to that..and those of you who have been paying attention would also know by now..not like we've been keeping our rigs a secret..

Abit boards are typically buggy in some small way, but the price/performance & features is unbeatably good. Just need to play around a bit to iron out the bugs.

Well, actually a few of us were hoping we could become something more than just a yum cha group..