Recently i open a thread to sell PRISON BREAK tshirt and has been closed by this two admin. The reason is the tshirt use official logo of PRISON BREAK and they said it is illegal.

When i browse lowyat forum, i come across a thread that sell HEROES tshirt. The seller (sorry i do not want to attack u, i hope u understand), is using HEROES logo and is allowed to continue his/her business.

when i PM stevanistelrooy, here what he said:

"That Heroes T-Shirt thread has been evaluated by an admin, and does not break any of the rules"

Here i paste the rules that they gave to me when they want to close my thread:

This is an announcement to all, in particular to those involved in the printing and subsequent sale of merchandise in the Trade Zone bearing logos and/or names of brands or companies (football clubs, TV show, car, product etc).

Unless you obtain written permission from the respective companies, you may not sell such products on Lowyat.NET. You are most likely in breach of trade mark laws, and the last thing we need is a lawsuit.

If you already have such a thread running:-
1) Close the thread immediately.
2) If printing has been ordered, fulfill all sales via PM.
3) If printing has not been ordered yet, conduct refunds immediately.


I need explaination from stevanistelrooy & RBR regarding this issue. It is important to me and anybody out there to know the "evaluation criteria" (since it do not apply to certain thread).
I do not want to close other people business but, admin should be fair.



Fell free to read the 2 thread below.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=555763&hl (PRISON BREAK, has been closed)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=494518&hl (HEROES, still operating)


Response from admin is really appreciated.

tq

hmm.. sound interesting.

You do make a valid argument. Hope things will be settled peacefully.

i come in peace, dont worry bro... he he

wow... all the best bro.. U have a valid point there..

hope everything will be settled fast and peaceful

U just have to live with it.
Humans are humans.
We rarely make perfectly fair decision.
Your situation is just about the same as me a few months ago when i open up a thread for muslims to talk about our own religion & have good chat (of course i won't allow racist remarks)
But in a very short moment the thread is gone when threads for Christians still EXIST (at that time. dont know if it still is now)
Mods don't have to worry. I'm cool now & I learn another rules of life:

Don't expect everyone to be fair. Humans usually just don't.

But u still can fight for it. I support u

thanks, i just need a good explanation from them, that's all.. btw, i love lowyat.net...

TS made some valid points, but then again the "Prison Break" wordings do look exactly like the tv show logo and therefore, could violate copyright laws.

i do not see any "Heroes" logo on the other seller, just quotes and words. but there was one design that did feature the "Heroes" logo (just like on TV) and he was still able to sell that. ("design 2" on his thread)

discuss this with the mods. unless the mods r taking a cut from the other guy, i'm sure some sort of compromise could be achieved.

good luck.

ko ke yg niaga kt putera buat baju prison break tu?

have u pm moderator about this thread ? sometimes we might overlook certain things, nobody is perfect, if there is a mistake, just amend it. life goes on..

This post has been edited by NaMyzarC: Nov 21 2007, 05:00 PM

aku la, kat sana pun dia closed thread aku sebab admin putera kata lowyat closed, derang pun ikut sama... tak best lansung alasan tu....

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Added on November 21, 2007, 5:02 pmyes, i have PM stevanistelrooy, here is his answer:

"That Heroes T-Shirt thread has been evaluated by an admin, and does not break any of the rules"

here are the rules:

This is an announcement to all, in particular to those involved in the printing and subsequent sale of merchandise in the Trade Zone bearing logos and/or names of brands or companies (football clubs, TV show, car, product etc).

Unless you obtain written permission from the respective companies, you may not sell such products on Lowyat.NET. You are most likely in breach of trade mark laws, and the last thing we need is a lawsuit.

If you already have such a thread running:-
1) Close the thread immediately.
2) If printing has been ordered, fulfill all sales via PM.
3) If printing has not been ordered yet, conduct refunds immediately.


This post has been edited by azmi77: Nov 21 2007, 05:03 PM

hahaha kesian kau..xpa2 rilek..ada rezeki dapat la jual..good luck

rezeki ada di mana-mana .. no worries...

If those logos or names have been copyrighted/registered as trademarks, you better make sure that you have valid permission to reprint. Otherwise, it is considered against the law.

Difference between your product and heroes product is that none of those t-shirts has the trademark/registered 'Heroes' term whereas yours clearly spells that out.

Hope this helps to clear things up.

pls check design 2...

Bro good point
That wat happen on me since last time i start my sales
I learn it and try to avoid it.

That's not the official Heroes trademark

care to click here?

http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/index.php?v=nbunbcnowher

there is one design that has the "Heroes" term:


although not as big as TS's "Prison Break", it's still there and therefore should apply to the same rules and regulations.

zzzz... please check official Heroes trademark before complain other nia..zzzz