Actually I noticed for the last 1.5 years, perm rates for core modules does not goes up except for some modules when you go around for job interview.

Most companies aren't giving perm slot but hiring core modules consultant on yearly contractual basis with slightly up perm rates.

Only if the consultant are doing ABAP, PS, BI, and any of the new dimension products that they need, it is almost contractual positions.

Unless you are lucky for contractual for core modules, it is easily break 10k per month.

If i recall, for accounting grad to do SAP FICO - first, you got to look for a company who is willing to train you in SAP FICO. Then again, your pay will be quite low cause you do not have any experience or knowledge on SAP FICO. It can be same pay grade like fresh grad auditors (company may deduct training expense from your salary). And they might impose about 3 to 5 years bond on you..

If you have read all the pages, some actually mentioned about it. The hours for sap implementation can be as bad-ass as auditor hours during the peak period.

Advice: Read all 51 pages first.

Yes - support role, BASF do provide training on-job and i think there is those training they will send the staff too if there is a need for new modules. But if I'm not mistaken, BASF tend to hire ppl with at least 1 yr support / implementation exp in SAP.

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Added on April 8, 2010, 4:21 pmThis post has been edited by Frosty-Snowman: Apr 8 2010, 04:24 PM

The last time I know BASF office is near Menara Telekom. It could be changed to Cyberjaya. U need to ask them

Just relax you all in the thread. No point to start a flaming war. Your posting really shows how low you are will go to hit below the belly. Nobody is perfect in SAP environment (everyone has his/her flaw). We work with our dignity and self-respect for one another. Not going around - trolling in forum and start blasting away.

I been working for over 7 years now with good ones and bad ones too (those who love to play politics, love flaming ppl @ work and in SAP forum) - both functional and abaper, basis.

It is important for both Functional and Technical to know each other modules. Functional will know more on the functional side (FICO, MM, SD, PP, etc), Technical will know more on the technical side (BASIS, ABAP, and etc). It can be situation, ABAPer will know more especially if the functional consultant is still junior or never been in the particular industry and vice versa.

True - ABAPer salary in this region is one of the highest (for very experience abaper) and if I'm not mistaken is follow by SAP PS or BI and follow by new dimension modules. But if you claiming that you are technical or functional but are not experienced enough, you tend to get burn by the client and the project - no matter how much you are earning.

u getting interview for freshie or experience? got difference one..

if freshie, u dont need to know SAP functionalities in detail. U need to know the physical logistics operations more. If experienced ppl, both functionalities and technical as well as business operations of logistics is a requirement.

Cause if you are freshie in industry, you dont want to be caught bs your knowledge after what u read from internet.. It is easy to be caught by de person interviewing you.

Passing mark is 70%. U fail, u need to wait 30 Business working days to re-register. Fail 3 times in the row, you are not allow to re-take for 1 year. Not sure whether you need to do academy after 1 year or not.

How much u asking for? If u asking too high for no experience, they would not even entertain the cv.. fresh grad with sap cert - u tend to get slightly higher than fresh grad without sap cert.. But u cannot go asking for experienced professional salary..

technically, if u dont have project experience for SAP, u cannot demand SAP market rate. No point pushing the fact u have years of exp in development and implementation in other systems. U will need to follow fresh SAP grad rates - around 2.2 to 2.5k.

Cause if you start asking for super high salary and when the company put u to a client which is demanding - ie u don't know what to do for the client using SAP, let put this way, your value goes down straight to drain. Everyone will see you as a braggart in the firm..

SAP is a small world in Malaysia..

Then I might know u, Wiraone. I was with Innovative Associates since 2004 until 2008.

Their consulting FI lead, ABAP lead, couple of the senior prj managers are still there minus the big consulting boss - switch to IBM (all on speed-dial and g-talk).

Correction on projects - There's no project in China by IA Group. Middle-East yes, India yes, Pakistan -yes, Sabah yes.

They are now doing mainly Financial niche project (SAP Banking). very niche market catering only for firms who need sap banking in the firms.. They also got small support prj's around KL for the old clients which needed enhancements.

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Added on August 3, 2010, 8:26 amAs far as i know with all my recent chat's with the senior's in IA, HR consultants are needed for some of the projects (short terms and couple long terms)..

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Stephen project is not SAP. His project is those HRM system. IA Outsourcing not IA Consulting. Different altogether type of projects.

Bank Islam - forever lah that project. Bank Islam boss and IA Group boss good buddy.. So the project can last forever..

Hanapi is forever there.. He will never leave.. But he's doing all sort - SAP integration and stuff.. I was under him in 2004 for BSN - doing MM, also learn PS there too..

My experience as non-experienced, jobless last time

1) Took SAP academy, paid around RM20K+. Pass exam.

2) Start blasting resumes all over the consulting and end user firms doing SAP. Make all the phone calls, use all your networking friends to ask or send resume direct to the manager in charge. Easier if you have friends who have political clout in the firm which I don't have at all. (e.g. My first job - almost all fresh graduates who comes in to do SAP, knows or related to one of the bosses in the firm).

3) Pray.


Whether it is end user or consulting firm, it is all depends to either your luck (10% of the time) or your political clout (90% of the time ppl get into SAP line this way).

Actually after i got my first job (1 month after starting), phone calls for interviews comes in.. Some want to do buyout immediately when I barely started my job. But those buyout - bond to their company for few years (end users firm).

Political clout - eilek.. If got also, i also don't want to use it cause if u do badly in the job, it makes whoever who brought u in looks bad.

Better earn with merit not political clout. amen to that.

Accenture always accept fresh grad but they can be gender bias during hiring.

QFT.

Risk Assessment Services does not do anything with SAP unless their client use SAP. But then again, you do not access the system like system configurator / functional consultant.

You just access the system to assess the potential risk, threat and provide the client a work around solution to be proposed to the implementator or support team.

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Added on September 21, 2010, 2:23 pmHCL Axon - they lost quite a number of the senior consultants and managers. I mean huge, sorry. Those from JSPC left and rejoin Bright something (ex-JSPC director owned). Those from pre-Axon purchase JSPC left to Deloitte and Accenture. Those who are not local, left to join IBM, Shell and etc.



This post has been edited by Frosty-Snowman: Sep 21 2010, 02:23 PM

Not actually... I seen those with accounting background doing SAP FICO also does not know head or tail of Finance that they suppose to do.

u want local or foreigner?

Not actually if you want to do SAP. PWC is more audit firm than a consulting firm doing SAP support or implementation.

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Added on October 12, 2010, 8:51 amI think you already answered your own question / dilemma. Of the 3, only 1 can provide you the access to do SAP. The other 2, don't unless you are working for end-user firm that uses SAP.

This post has been edited by Frosty-Snowman: Oct 12 2010, 08:51 AM