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post Apr 15 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(kinkikids @ Apr 14 2010, 01:31 PM)
1. Since there's so many fresh grad ABappers around, is it wise for me to jump into it now?
Wise and un-wise. up to you if you can cope with the low salary during ur first few years.

2. I have no plan to take on a 25K course. But will consider for the free boot camps/MDEC programs. Can anyone tell me when will be the next course scheduled?
MDEC programs will only sponsor 'jobless people for certain period of time' and students.

3. I have seen in this thread that some people jump from 1.8K to 15K within 3 years. And i do remember there's a forumers which earning pounds living in Msia by doing ABAP. But i also heard that there is some ABAPers who earn penny after years of experience because according to them, technical ppl is not being appreciated much as functional consultants. Can anyone comment on this?
I have seen some businessman earn his first pot of gold within 3 years entering the business. some businessman 15 yrs liao still struggling hard and barely survive.

4. One commonly asked question: Is ABAP a dying module? as it's getting saturated and seems like Java is coming to it's way. Also heard that there's plan to dramatically reduce configuration/customization and replaced with some automated customization tools(forgot the name)
U mean SOLMAN ah? btw ABAP is very important in SAP because every enhancements require ABAP. However, more and more people are learning ABAP. Even functionals know ABAP (i aso know ABAP although i not ABAPER) that's why it's saturated coz a lot SAP consultant knows ABAP. ABAP will live long forever rclxm9.gif

5. If i jump into ABAP, should i focus in Netweaver, R/3 or ECC 6?
You have not done your homework smile.gif
'If i learn driving, should i drive Myvi, Mercedes or Toyota?"


6. I am planning for migration within 10 years. let's not talk bout SAP, just pure IT ERP global implementation career w/o certification, how will the chance be?
Anyone can migrate as long you got money.

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post Apr 15 2010, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Apr 15 2010, 09:14 AM)
Yet ABAPers are dying/begging to join the functional.

Grass greener on the other side? hmm.gif
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more abapers joining functional means more abap vacancy for freshies rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 16 2010, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(cywings @ Apr 16 2010, 12:40 AM)
lol i guess another reason is that being in ABAP meaning less interaction with the business.
~just like there's this hot blonde you want to know from the business; and you're assigned a specs from her.. but your functional guy gets all of her. Evidently because your functional guy talks to her more than you do..
that, my friend probably that is one of the many reasons why so many developers want to be a functional..

well at least from the social aspect of it.. LOL

just my quarter cents..  tongue.gif
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post Apr 16 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Apr 16 2010, 09:06 AM)
Most of the time it's not a hot blonde but some angry aunty rclxub.gif
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got la.. the purchasers (MM) are quite young and pretty too brows.gif
best is FICO module... really got hot blonde (swiss/danish girls) and if u deal with SG FI, hebat liao thumbup.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 03:49 PM

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there are so many ppl who calls themselves good in cooking. Some pandai cook maggi mee, some pandai cook jap cuisine, some pandai cook this n that. Everyone claims it is easy to learn how to cook. but how to define a good cook?
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post May 6 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Perwaja @ May 6 2010, 04:32 PM)
thanks mate, first week for people without sap background kinda hard to coupe too many financial and business term need to remember,

huhuhuhu
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All the best ! What environment is that? Retail? Manufacturing? Consumer Goods?
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post Jun 1 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ May 25 2010, 02:18 PM)
This is for BW ALE Delta.
I need to create R3 Delta Extractor BW for SAP Standard tables but these tables doesnt have the delta-specific field that can be used as delta.

So I tried to use ALE Delta for some of the sap standard tables and it worked and thats because the ALE Delta config already maintained in SCDO by SAP. But there are some of the SAP tables are not set in the tcode SCDO so I need to create a new entries in SCDO and generates the update program. But the thing is these tables are maintaned by user in SAP Standard tcode and the user do not want to have a customized program to maintain the tables. So how should I do this? Where should I park the generated update program? I already checked he tcodes doesnt have any user exits.

The user maintains the tables in SAP's standard Table Maintanance Generator(tcode SM30). I want to park the ALE generated program in the Table Maintanance Generator event 02 - After Saving record to table but it requires me enter the access key since its a standard sap object. I dun wanna do that since it requires a lot of effort for approval..
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apa table? tengok can link to some standard table yg ada timestamp. buat extraction by view(join the table u want + the table tat maintain changedat) then generic delta by tat timestamp field lo.
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post Jun 1 2010, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 10:19 AM)
i'm certified in SAP ABAP and am working in Oil & Gas manufacturing company for bout 3 months... but guess what? ABAP is really not my cup of tea as i hate programming and i'm totally lost my interest working in here...

i'm wondering what should i do? at first i really wish that i can expose myself to SAP but now not anymore... what's in my mind is a job which can earn me $$$ ...

all the sifu out there... is SAP good for me?
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any job u can earn $$$ ... as long u got passion can dy.. regardless of any field.
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post Jun 1 2010, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ Jun 1 2010, 10:31 AM)
These tables:
T8J1A
T8J1B
T8J1D
T8J1F

Yep sudah tengok lor these tables doesnt have link to other table yang ada timestamp thats why I tried to use ALE Delta instead if not i oso dont want susah payah to use that ALE Delta.
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wow.. i O.O at the fields.. how big is the table? master data don't change so frequent, use weekly full load loh =P btw, i saw ur post in SDN... i think nobody reply coz u letak wrong section dy. try posting in "Business Content and Extractors"

QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 10:38 AM)
yeah i know... just don't feel like scratch all over my head in thinking bout the coding... i really hate programming... not even a person in this company know bout ABAP Programming and i'm the only one... as for your info, i'm fresh and they expect me to do something like a consultant did... what the hell... ridiculous rite? i wish i can join as Application Consultant rather than ABAPer...
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something to share with u here
If u notice "Knowledge of ABAP programming is a MUST."

most of the time company willing to pay higher because u know ABAP. So why not accept the challenge and improve your abap skill since u're given the opportunity (compared to those doing normal support job who dont have much learning curve)


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post Jun 1 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 11:39 AM)
i wish to but there's no one i can ask for help if i face a problem in coding as no one know bout programming in here... is NO ONE... not even a single person... how do i improve my skill since there's no one teach or guide... i understand being an initiative person could learn a lot but the problem is i did try to do research through internet as well as calling up my friends who are ABAPer as well but still ended up nothing... you should know, the way to learn programming is to have at least one or two partner sitting side by side doing the hands on together in order to discuss and understand well right? but how could i do this since no one here know bout programming?
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umm... welll..maybe i share my story with u la.
i started fresh as certified abaper too, went into this bw team. i'm the only abaper tat time.. then nobody to teach me abap, so i started joining SDN, ERPgenie, sapfans forum and i brought all the TAW10/TAW12 books to office and read and try-error...and finally i am able to create my own customer exits and function modules. i didn't ask other team or anyone coz i a bit pride problem (they always say "You Certified Abaper WOHHHHHHH") so i rather go the hard way than to ask anyone.

QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 11:56 AM)
Errm.. as a CERTIFIED ABAPer, you should be able to go through .. now, let me think .. if a certified person complaining that he/she couldn't do the job .. I guess the certification is meaning less .. wonder why some companies prefer to look for a certified consultant..
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(castelloz @ Jun 1 2010, 12:32 PM)
Alamak kantoi pulak! Thee hee.. tongue.gif
Yeah, some of the tables has entries up to 3 million records and that is in development box, i dunno in Production.
I just abaper ler, and I dunno BW, so this is requested by the users n bw guys, I already asked them just use
full upload la habis cerita, but they still want delta. I want to shoot back also Im still junior abaper n doing
contract somemore,tak berani later kena tendang anytime.. Thanks anyways.. smile.gif
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OHH... i tot u doing BW liao. Senang. Is functional in the picture or not? normally in this case can taichi to the functionals. U tell the BW guys sorry cannot do coz table tarak timestamp to monitor changes. ask them to tok to functional to make customize table to maintain aedat then update the table when user make changes via the tcode. after tat u can do a join with those tables u mentioned + the new cusztomied table.

QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 12:32 PM)
Anyway, as cheezy said, there are lot of forums/web boards in the net that you could join in. That is the only way I can survive till now .. I was quite active in sapfans but not now.. there are many others who could help there .. but ... before you ask question there, please and please do use the search feature first.
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i no longer active in those sites too. oni lepak in ittoolbox and SDN. i love SDN coz there's a lot points-hunger SAPians there. 1 minute after i post my Qs, i get berlambak replies liao. apparently some consulting firm will ask ur SDN ID, coz they wanna see how active are u in the community.

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post Jun 1 2010, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 12:48 PM)
what do you guys think about being an ABAPer?
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great! Nothing is impossible with ABAP.
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post Jun 1 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Jun 1 2010, 04:00 PM)
Can't say much if you've this attitude .. good luck ..
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QUOTE(lyk @ Jun 1 2010, 04:16 PM)
same to ya bro... no offense ya... just kidding only... hehe...
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wow.. u sudah offended the abap sifu liao. how u gonna cari makan in this field anymore?
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post Jun 2 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(achangle @ Jun 2 2010, 03:29 PM)
a lot of Abapers huh? Can i post a question here regarding enhancement?
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sure. wira sifu can help u.
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post Jun 3 2010, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(RaitoTenth @ Jun 3 2010, 01:04 AM)
im diggin this thread..

can some one shed me some light..

if i want to further my studies and set SAP as my aim..

i have finished my SPM and would like to know more about SAP
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get into a good univ/college that offers IT DEGREE then study hard graduate as first class honors. then if ur result good u might get sponsorship for SAP certification course. After tat go apply some consulting firms (listed in front page) and most of them are choosy but if u manage to impress them, u're in their graduate trainee and they will train u in SAP.
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post Jun 3 2010, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(optyx_spider @ Jun 3 2010, 02:34 AM)
I know MDEC did give free SAP training for few selected USM students..not sure what module..and they have the chance to work as SAP consultant with axon..of course u have to pass the interview first la
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yep. they will ask u sit for some Java aptitude test and got CGPA requirement. if all ok, can get free SAP certification training. then if ur exam result good, Axon terus bond u. by right the moment u sign the contract/agreement for SAP course, u are already bonded by Axon. just up to them want u or not.
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post Jun 3 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jun 3 2010, 09:40 AM)
as SAP support?  blink.gif not consultant wor.
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as long u not permanent staff in the company, ur job title will always be 'Consultant' regardless project or support role. (external consultants)

If permanent, you will most likely get the title 'Analyst' or 'Application Specialist' regardless project or support role.
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post Jun 21 2010, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(townguy @ Jun 21 2010, 06:11 PM)

Should i go for SAP certification in few weeks time?? base on talk to few people, SAP certification exam not easy. So i need to study really hard for the exam. Don't want to delay very long, so if i choose to take the exam, i planned to take it on 16th July( one of the SAP Malaysia's examination date for July). Than look for SAP related job after the completing the exam. RISK, its not guarantee i will past the exam.

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go for it while you're at it. after u masuk industry u malas liao. like me i said wanna get certified since last year til now i still haven't even touch the material.
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post Jun 22 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(izdyharz @ Jun 22 2010, 01:25 PM)
If let say your already have experience and want to sit only for the exam, u need to send ur resume for vetting to SAP Malaysia, they will revert back whether you are qualified to sit for the exam or not. And bear in mind not everybody can simply sit for the exam even if you have 5,6 years exp and above.
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Wow.. last year when i asked Madhu about the Professional cert (not associate) he said no nit recomendation letter and no vetting, the procedure were quite simple. This year they become so strict alraedy ah?
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post Jun 22 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(izdyharz @ Jun 22 2010, 03:55 PM)
Hmm I dont know bout last year, but my fren hes a bw leader having 8 years exp in BW/BI still need to send his resume to SAP for vetting. Yep talked to Madhu as well. Luckily he passed the exam.
That was in April 2010. His certification code is C_TBW45_70. Well i think its associate's.
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can help ask if professional cert this year still need all those troublesome procedure anot? esp the part abt recommendation letter from company. thx !

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