The Star's Nabbed for Selling Pirated Games



Fuyoo, they knew. And that was hard hitting. Who bought their games there?

me
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wahlao~

raided 0.001% of pirated business... well done.. 99.999% more to go

Ah...Capcom, finally the company show it's true color...first being Japan's Multiplatform company of the Year..and now this.


Capcom now thinking to maximize their $$$

'Operasi Games Attack'

this operasi is annual year-end activity

http://www.theesa.com/archives/2007/10/esa_and_mpa_joi.php

http://www.hmetro.com.my/Thursday/Setempat/67410
http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:vjkDXK...lient=firefox-a

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...&sec=technology

keep in mind ESA is US-based, so maybe they represent those USA publishers including Capcom USA.

This post has been edited by acougan: Nov 19 2007, 08:21 PM

U noe, besides doing that, they could really help us, a whole lot, by giving official presence here through our local reputable sellers. They'll make millions... Wow.

OMG no more The Star newspaper anymore.....

where is SNK?

This post has been edited by syazwanreno: Nov 19 2007, 09:12 PM

haha..Summit kena raid ..haha..but still got many place got wo ..as shinobikit said ..still got99.999 % to go ..haha ..maybe its 99.999999999999999

crap !!
now where am i goin to buy pirated disc ??

at least SNK is not as obvious as Capcom.


Capcom : bla bla bla...aiming to give a broader audience....bla bla (whisper: WE WAN MOAR $$$$$$)

This post has been edited by K-End: Nov 19 2007, 09:40 PM

you sure you're a malaysian?

at least they DELIVER

look at EA...wanna expand so much,in the end buggy games

haha..finally..what took them so long? before this LOW YAT, SG WANG and many more places has been cleared up, wonder why SUMMIT only now they took action...hmmm

they kenot clean up my hdd
full of games..

Be careful, we may be heard by them people. Discreetly reveal your locations. hahaha.

I'd like to think ahead and sumtimes be very illogical in a way? Hahhaha.

shit man

I tot that place was deserted and a good place to buy pirated stuff

PS2 GAmes 3 for 10

DvD Games RM 8

Movies expensive a bit

Now no more already ......

Summit Software Pirates....U have my support !!!!

Yeah agreed too. Modded consoles, well, a lot of us have very different definitions for it. Some use it for back up ori games (200 bucks a game is not cheap), some for imported games (region lock issues), and also for pirated games.

There's a crackdown on the modded consoles outside Malaysia. but i think ESA will be focusing on pirated games first.

now operasi time, game shops should promote the new 40GB PS3. haha, ESA can do nothing against the PS3 and the games. maybe can invite the officers to playtest the games also then take photo and publish in the star

But when i think again, it is the pirates who manage to deliver the games to us faster than any official presence available. For console games that is.

Makes logical sense on why pirates would also be of favor.

when there's demand, there's supply.

when there's operasi, time to tutup kedai (semantara)

Not to sound overly optimistic, but I do believe piracy can be stopped in Malaysia.

I just laugh at this type of news...

It's hard to stop piracy in Malaysia when 'almost' everyone has the same mindset. No wonder game developers aren't looking at Malaysia as a true 'gaming country' when there are so many talented players...

Let me see... I know about 5-6 places selling pirated games... err 3 places I know sells 100% original games (TSB, PCgame.com.my, Gamers' Hideout). One of the pirated shops was raided. The shop was closed for almost a week and then... BAM! They opened again as if nothing happens.

The only way to stop piracy - - reduce the price (which won't happen).

Localised version is nice, but most of us want the 'original untouched' boxed version.

Huh... don't get me started on "Malaysia's No.1 Broadband Service Provider"... Cevat Yerli/Peter Molyneux/John Carmack/Will Wright should pay a visit to this country to 'see the potential' and 'how much is wasted'...

Note : Malaysia is not the only country with this problem...

we still got torrents, throttling? nevermind, VPN or torrentflux, with the money invested on VPN/FTP server for full speed BT, it'a all worth it

not that I support pirated at all, but I need different flavors of games, sometimes I just play the games once and that's it, so pirated games can help me in this way

support or not we all been using it
i know many LYN gamers are paying for original games, but they also frequently downloading latest english or other series via BT
it's not just malaysians support piracy, it's all over the world, different groups of movie rippers, ISO releases, malaysians are just using that and produce on the media disc.

wonder which shop is that
but i saw one of the outlet was closed today.....but not sure is it that one

To tell you the truth....

True Gamers Buy Originals.

But if a game isn't worth it and you STILL wish to try it... then.. well....


PS : Has anyone here actually bought a pirated game, felt it was a freakin good game and gone to buy the original game?

PPS : I ran to a game shop in 1Utama that sold Half-Life 2 original after reading the reviews. Back then didn't know about TSB, pcgame.com.my or Gamer's Hideout

i know 2 shop selling pirate games
wont let u all know it
since it only for trusted customer

Well, not all gamers who buy pirates would know about BT. Some of them are too lazy to wait for the download to be finished (Which makes sense that they opt for VPN and all) so they would rush to the piracy places.

I do in fact buy piracy. But after Gears of War PC, that ori version made me think a lot of times on feeling so good to get an original title.

Previously they targeted those dealing in pirated movies. Nowadays they're targeting those related to entertainment software, specifically games.

that's why many game company had given us demo to play before the game is out.

And screamyx spoils the download demo action. tats crappy.

mine is working just fine here...

the price for games in malaysia is way too high compared to other country.. direct conversion only very costly not including tax and others. not everybody could afford to buy games but everybody wants to play games. that's why demand is always there. dont say like only true gamers buy original..sometimes the one who play pirate is even better than who play original.i'm not backing some pirate or whatsoever, it's just a reality here in malaysia. we live in a peace country with a very high price of goods. i said that because i got a friend who work as same position as me.. same company as mine.. but different place. while i got paid at the same amount as him but mine just in RM and he's in USD. see how was it.

ohhhh man
this is just gonna make my day difficult
i need two new release title, now they are having operasi.
but look at the bright side.
how many copies did they rampas??
now who wanna make a wild guess how many copies will be sold back??

Enforcement's moving up a notch? That's good news, as for once they decided to 'sapu' the nintendo catridges as well. Normally, ppl blatantly sell those in broad daylight.

Wats next? R4 cartridges?

Games are expensive, it is a fact of life EVERYWHERE. That's why many of us buy second hand or wait for PlayAsia specials.
As for the bolded part, methinks you need to read between the lines.

who even buy cds nowdays?

i do, although it is kinda hard to juggle between that and games and also the missus
as tower records is yet to 'chap lap', i wager many others do the same.

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Added on November 20, 2007, 7:25 pmJudging by the replies thus far, that is a very big
IF.
Still, feel free to join the fight.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 20 2007, 08:15 PM

Games are expensive, pirated are cheap, that's why there're thousands of stores waiting to be raided and millions people buying pirates.

I don't condone piracy but that is a sad fact.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-1o3l.html

DOA2 (Xbox 360) for under RM40 if you choose free shipping.

Buy smart, stay legal?

This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 20 2007, 08:15 PM

what are you implying? to buy lowly priced special offered games that you have no interests in? or you showing us a game with boobies?

This post has been edited by Kellicros: Nov 20 2007, 09:11 PM

Just trying to tell the naysayers that games can be bought cheaply, IF you are willing to bide your time.



This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 20 2007, 09:14 PM

All games have demos? Even so, streamyx takes hours to download (even on 1Mbps).

What about games that 'you know you won't really enjoy and not worth buying the original, but you still want to play the full game...' ?

thanks for reminding me

This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 20 2007, 10:44 PM

Chill out madmoz. I noe its a sad truth that Microsoft isn't here for official presence.

Which is actually a good thing to be pointed out to ESA. Having official presence can really do wonders.

Microsoft don't even push Games For Windows Titles because of Malaysia's piracy. I asked that from All IT at Low yat. Very sad.

just it on the tv3 news just now, Digital Mall also kena sapu

Yes!! Down with the Pirates!!!

Down is the new UP!!

Sum1 better inform bernard not to sell any things that are haram. Don't sapu his shop! he's the best!

How many forumer here using pirated Windows? People sure are funny. They willing to spend 200 on a single game which only can last them like... 1 or 2 months but will not willing to buy an original Windows which can last for years.

Well, well... what makes you think that we are using pirated windows? Are you? Cause some (hopefully most) of us aren't.

yup yup!!

save bernard!!!

this thread isnt going any good.

we buy what we like and love, sometimes things are good or so good that u wanted to support them. that's why some of us rather get a original copy even it last only 1 or 2 months.

Or like one of our mod, sihumchai, he sold almost every games he bought in order to get another new games.

yeah, better inform bernard fast.

thats why i hate this kinda thread, any side i took
there always a conflict. im glad to hear all those shops
got raided. so maybe one day they could set up an
official release here in BolehLand. im just saying.
its my money.

sold off everything to buy new 1 ori
so stupid
if canniot effort better bought "cheap" version

Fixed.

And if you can't spell, don't bother to type either

And obviously you don't respect intellectual properties. Since you can afford to buy a PC/360/PS2/PS3/Wii/DS/PSP, I'm sure you can effort to buy original titles as well and support the people who makes these games that you PLAY.

Sheesh

The question in mind, what's the harm in selling off your goods to pass on the cheer and support developers?

u can call djinn or bernard
i bought all my game from them
why u quote my post??
i'm not referr it to u??
last game i bought from djinn is COD4
and de day i bought i also lepak with arj
u can ask them for prove

Ugh, my bad then.

Besides, proof is not needed. I'm actually not trying to persuade you, or anyone to get original games. It is up to you(indirectly, everyone else) to do their own part to support the industry. Screaming buy ori doesn't help at all.

I take back my words.

I buy original Vista Home for my PC, also WindowsXP Home...simply because of the updates...why? because Im earning so much money from my job that I can now afford to buy originals...

I also buy original games now...its not because I think pirated softwared are EVIL or BAD, its just that im now a little bit older now and came to a realisation that I dont need to buy every games that come out but just simply buy the ones I want to play...

Still, most of the stores are selling pirated softwares. Our local game magazines are also not helping...some of the stores they feature (which proudly proclaims that they sell original) on their magazines actually sell these special softwares along with the originals..

we all have our favorite stores to go to, mine is Gamers Solution in City Bazar. I get all my ori stuff from Bernard/Kristal..word up...

To forumers, I have just sent an sms to bernard warning him regarding the ESA's Operation Games Attack. I'm hoping our plea doesn't fall on deaf ears.

Now, its best to have other forumers to carry on to other reputable sellers too. Thank you.

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Added on November 21, 2007, 12:36 pmBernard has replied to me saying that he will follow what I have disclaimed for him. I thank him for his contribution to us all, and I believe he has thanked us back.

This post has been edited by Kyoyagami: Nov 21 2007, 12:36 PM

This thread reminds me of the thread that i put up long ago.... Flame wars, Blake, industry, pirates were all there...

Why is there so much fuss in this thread.
This is just one of the goverment year end quota...
So what happen to the dvd that has been rampas.
Another show where tractor gtoes over it.
Steam roller smashing it???

I would say those are 2/3 of it.
What happen to the balance 1/3
Use for themself? Or sell it back to black market?

support jack sparrow!!!!! lol

hiah, you guys.. can i say this? grow up.
its pointless that you guys fighting over this matter anyway.
i've seen this too many. go out, go get some dates
i dont want my friends suddenly became like this
cmon people.

I sms'ed him too today

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Nov 21 2007, 03:59 PM

pass to their mates...or just put in a store. basically every state got it's own store.hahaha. u'll be amazed by the quantity inside.. all kind of pirated stuff is there.. not just cd. if u have a friend who work at the kpdnhep store, then u ask him to bring u there.

You got a reply?

no, but my friend is there. he said Bernard is super busy ( as always ) today.
he dont entertain sms anyway, but hopefully he got the msg

hey, i was about to post that!

so....wat happen to the shops in Summit USJ btw?..

and don't think tat piracy will be gone.....it will always be here lar....no matter how badly their stock kena rampas....sure come up again...

They can always mark the manual/packaging/disc "not for sale outside malaysia" or something and let the bits and bytes inside untouched.

But seriously.. audio CD's pricing needs to come down to the region of cassette tape pricing these days.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Nov 22 2007, 12:35 AM

Like we can't download on the internet

Of course we can. But, how many people who support pirate would know where to download from? And how many can patiently wait?

That's why, Screamyx got throttled, or at least i think it is. They know not all of us are patient to wait for downloads.

if you look at the portable market, a shit load of gamers download games from the net.

torrent being throttled isnt a problem,since many dont use torrents to begin with

yups
some of my frenz used megashare/rapidshare to donlod iso

yup.. for movies, PSP and nDS, i say yes..
but for PS2, XBOX,XBOX360... it's like taking forever with this screamyx.that's why most of ppl still supporting piracy even it can be downloaded.

whats the point buying originals if the content is still the same... still can play wat...

hahahaha....

say no to piracy... buy originals...

well i guess there r some ppl who can't afford original stuffs... imagine all the students studying using all original s/w... it would KILL THEM... juz a original SQL s/w costs a BOMB!!!!!!!

if m'sia has a stronger economic status... i think alot of us r willing 2 buy original don't u think....hehehe...

Exactly. If MYR$ value could be higher as well as salary increases together with the increment of daily expenses (eg: petrol, flour, etc), a lot of things will be affordable. How could piracy survive if original stuff becomes affordable to most people.

strange, i don't see many pirated ferrari cars...

Well, RM is now appreciating against USD. Which explains some games being cheaper than what they used to be.

but there's a lot pirated evo's around. kah kah kah kah..

Wrong, the country's economic status is not that big a factor.Unless the price of originals drops to anywhere near pirated one which is unrealistic, the majority will always flock to the pirates as long as there is availability.It is the selfish nature of man.Imagine if there is no enforcement against piracy in USA and Japan and pirated games are in abundance everywhere, its not hard to imagine even the people there would take the shortcut despite their "superior" economic status.

This post has been edited by Blackhart: Nov 22 2007, 08:20 PM

even those americans come to malaysia seeking the pirated games! LOL...

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Added on November 22, 2007, 8:52 pmever heard of modded bittorent client?
yeahhooww~~ super turbo man wakaka

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Nov 22 2007, 08:53 PM

nope.
cos i dont believe in torrents anymore
bloody waste of time,if you ask me

why download one file and take hours,days,maybe weeks or even months for seeders to arrive,when you can cut them up(the file) and download them faster from ever ready servers?

maybe its just you, remebered MGSPO last time?
because, im a bittorrent user, bittorrent users like me, too lazy to search
ops, better cut off. later kena warned keke.

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Nov 22 2007, 09:19 PM

very true indeed... but if u r the developer... would u sell ur developed s/w sooo cheap after all the hard work n costs of developing, intergrating, testing, marketing, etc.... but no doubt some blood sucking companies do sell higher price for better profits... i guess in biz sense is arguable... since they need 2 sell a heck load of their goods to cover juz the marketing costs.... not to mention the rest of the costs..... juz hope the rich can support the oris n dun b cheap ass to buy pirated stuffs... hahhaa.. although poor ppl buy pirated stuffs but they do deserve to hav knowledge n fun.... sooo hope it balances out... hahahaa

Well... I'm sure almost every single one of us gamers started as buying from pirates, those are the time when we are young without knowing buying piracy stuff is wrong. All of us has limited pocket money mah, so comparing a RM120 ori with a RM5 pirate, which both has the same content, then it's a no brainer which to buy at that time. While we were young, we has no appreciation for originality anyway, all we care for is value for fun, fun and fun.
As we grow older, buying as many pirated games as you want no longer make sense anymore... how many of you out there who has started working has a piles of pirated games untouched at home? How many games you has completed? Buying pirated games doesn't gives you the appreciation of a game anymore.
So for my case, I used to had a tonnes of pirated games lying in the folder, untouched, the most I just play for a while, that's it. But with original games it's a different story, I won't let it lie idle there, I'll try my best to complete this game first before moving on to the next original, I also will try to unlock everything and squeeze all of the juice out from the originals, and I must admit, I has more fun and has more appreciation for the game when playing originals.

So support originals!!!

the good news is nowadays, XBL and PSN do offer game demos and gameplay trailers for many games. although some games i'm interested in are missing demos (e.g AC) so i can't decide whether its worth buying.

not sure if Wii games have demos or not ............

alot
the ones i dont touch are the crap games..

played full auto 2?
what a piece of shit

i'd be very stupid if i bought the original.

no,buying original does not mean you would definitely appreciate it more.

i appreciate my pirated ZOE 2 more than my original ZOE.
i played my pirated ZOE 2 waaaay more than my original ZOE.

i would rather lose my ORIGINAL ZOE than my pirated ZOE2.

buying original=more appreciative gamers is just pure bullocks,IMHO..

a crappy game will always be a crappy game,regardless if you buy it original or pirated

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Nov 23 2007, 04:52 PM

Sadly Wii games don't have demo's that we could download.

But it would sure mean sumthing for them if they could improve it.

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Added on November 23, 2007, 4:56 pmANd that would mean that you shouldn't go buying a pirated one right and choose the best game right?

This post has been edited by Kyoyagami: Nov 23 2007, 04:56 PM

when is this thread gonna reach 10 pages?

i never said buying pirated games was the right thing to do.

i was arguing that just because one buys an original game,it doesnt mean one would appreciate it extravagantly more than that of a person who buys a pirated version.

all of my original games couldnt be finished, all online based

walao, new drama series. *grabbing pop corn*
* MA!, the show just starts! * ... "be there in a minute son"

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Nov 23 2007, 05:06 PM