got new IPO oo
Aeon Credit Services (M) Bhd 

That meant IPO is like playing 4d? I see. I am actually newbie in investment. So wanna learn from sifu here how to invest safely especially which unit trust and bonds that is suitable for me.

as long as you think you bought a good company at value prices. Then, you can go to sleep even in bull or bear market and make money consistently. Bull run maybe make more-la, bear market just sit and collect good dividends lo...

The buying good company isn't hard, but choosing a good company which is under-priced is hard. The problem is all good companies are also expensive and not undervalued.

everyday RED, don know what date is GREEN

regretted to enter this period of stock market..........see la.......my savings all burned become cili tomato.......

i think all of us should stop investing........bo jia lat..........

see la, today at USA , so many bad news coming in................    

wa lao ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh    

ya........thanks for ur advise.............i know i'm wrong......but is no way back..........        

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Added on November 19, 2007, 9:46 pmJUST FACE THE FACT, PAY THE BILLS....
NOTHING CAN CHANGE...

the story from other FORUM

ALTHOUGH U R NOT A CONTRA PLAYER...ANYWAY,U FEEL ANGRY,SAD,DEPRESSED...THAT'S WHAT EVERY LOSER FELT..
WHEN ANGER ADN FEAR HAS BLINDED A PERSON, HE WILL TRY TO WIN HIS MONEY BACK BUY BUYING SO CALLED" CHEAP" SHARES...
FINALLY....HE/SHE STEP DEEPER AND DEEPER...INTO A HOLE WHERE HE/SHE CAN'T GET HIMSELF OUT OF IT ALREADY..

i am sure u all have seen how OSK uncle aunty playing?...those are so called addicted already...and they will keep on sitting on the chair...keep on losing..

i m not going to advice you anything...but at least, keep peace for a while, keep a cool mind...love and appreciate ur family...coz they are always there for you...
i lost..a lot..almost half of my savings...we all knows we are just a small time players..not enough to bite the big fish...(if u not agree its ok, just sit beside vincent tan and play..)

what i wanna say here is,stop dreaming...cut lost if u can,save ur money back,learn a lesson...come again late december while observing the market now...
even there may b one or two days market up due to any theme it mayu be...its just temporary...for those contra player to syok a while....but they will lose back...

dun get trap........pull ur leg out now since its still early...........
DJ future points down like shit now....
god blesssssssssss..................

Do you mean or conclude that playing contra is strongly not encourageable?

Headlines  RAM Ratings puts IOI Corp on Rating Watch, with negative outlook
Date Announced  21 November 2007
 

RAM Ratings has placed the AA2/P1 ratings of IOI Corporation Berhad's ("IOI Corp" or "the Group") RM300 million Al-Murabahah Commercial Papers/Medium-Term Notes Facility (2001/2008) on Rating Watch, with a negative outlook. The Group recently announced the proposed issuance of up to USD600 million nominal value 5-year Unsecured Guaranteed Third Exchangeable Bonds ("Proposed Bonds"). The nominal value of the Proposed Bonds is equivalent to about RM2 billion, based on an exchange rate of RM3.345 per USD.

RAM Ratings' action is premised upon the anticipated weakening of IOI Corp's credit profile after the issuance of the Proposed Bonds. The Group's balance sheet had already weakened in its latest fiscal quarter, following the completion of its capital-repayment exercise that had eroded its shareholders' funds by some RM1.31 billion to RM6.97 billion as at end-September 2007. With a debt burden of RM3.94 billion, IOI Corp's gearing and net gearing ratios stood at a respective 0.50 times and 0.42 times as of the same date. Assuming an additional RM2 billion of borrowings, IOI Corp's gearing ratio is expected to deteriorate to almost 0.8 times - a high level vis-à-vis the other AA2-rated companies within RAM Ratings' portfolio.

Nevertheless, RAM Ratings notes that the proceeds from the Proposed Bonds will be utilised to fund the Group's capital expenditure ("capex"), investments/acquisitions as they arise, and working-capital requirements, the timing of which has yet to be finalised at this juncture. The management has also intimated that the Group's more imminent capex budget amounts to less than RM1 billion. RAM Ratings will continue monitoring the relevant developments and will reassess the situation once more concrete details have been made available.

RAM Ratings' Rating Watch highlights a possible change in an issuer's debt rating. It focuses on identifiable events such as mergers, acquisitions, regulatory changes and operational developments that place a rated debt under special surveillance by RAM Ratings. In a broader sense, it covers any event that may result in changes in the risk factors relating to the repayment of principal and interest.

Issues will appear on RAM Ratings' Rating Watch when some of the above events are expected to or have occurred. Appearance on RAM Ratings' Rating Watch, however, does not inevitably mean that the existing rating will be changed. It only means that a rating is under evaluation by RAM Ratings and a final affirmation is expected to be announced. A "positive" outlook indicates that a rating may be raised while a "negative" outlook indicates that a rating may be lowered. A "developing" outlook refers to those unusual situations in which future events are so unclear that the rating may potentially be raised or lowered.