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post Nov 19 2007, 02:07 PM

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must see also if that day force selling or not...nothing much can do if DJ super good den in KLSE its froce selling...you know la...alot of people play contra ma...now days i buy and sell also need to check for force selling...


Added on November 19, 2007, 2:08 pm
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:05 PM)
emm it is good to share biggrin.gif

whopss, we didnt have same counters in our portfolio tongue.gif
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mind showing us wat you have ? hehehehe

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post Nov 19 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:56 PM)
now you guys reminded me

i think last night i made a dream, that SAPCRES shoot up to 2.4x  sweat.gif

hmmm, i read that the hk share tycoons are expecting HSI to be at 33,000 levels in 2 to 3 months time (around CNY 08)

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Hope your dream comes true. smile.gif

Sapcres will have plenty of dilution if its warrant being converted to its mothershare, the number of warrant is huge about 250mil. Sapcres got 1.14 bil share issued plus its warrant if converted, its total outstanding share would be near 1.4 bil, this kind of stock normally need some high volume to push up the share price.

I though before the recent HSI plunge, it nearly hit 32K already (just shy a few points) mah

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post Nov 19 2007, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 19 2007, 12:37 PM)
I thought I made some wise decision to buy Gamuda (on the last day red, before Dow surges 300++ pts), and Sapcres (the last minute before the announcement made), but both really give me headache as both did not advance as much as I thought, and suddenly move the opposite way  vmad.gif
I think they will, but if the bad news are severe, then panic selling will cause the counters to go down as well
You sure gamuda making loss?? Where you read the news? I thought they are making profit??
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i mean gamuda make me lose money!!!
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post Nov 19 2007, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(jojoe @ Nov 19 2007, 02:14 PM)
i mean gamuda make me lose money!!!
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Added on November 19, 2007, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2007, 02:13 PM)
Hope your dream comes true.  smile.gif

Sapcres will have plenty of dilution if its warrant being converted to its mothershare, the number of warrant is huge about 250mil. Sapcres got 1.14 bil share issued plus its warrant if converted, its total outstanding share would be near 1.4 bil, this kind of stock normally need some high volume to push up the share price.

I though before the recent HSI plunge, it nearly hit 32K already (just shy a few points) mah
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Cherroy,

I have question regarding warrants. Will warrants have effect on mother share? Let say the warrants expire today, will the mother share go up/down? Which is the usual case?

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 19 2007, 02:18 PM)
Cherroy,

I have question regarding warrants. Will warrants have effect on mother share? Let say the warrants expire today, will the mother share go up/down? Which is the usual case?
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Yes, warrant (not call-warrant) does and can affect its mothershare. Imagine all the warrant being converted to the mothershares, then the number of shares increases then you increase the 'supply' in the market. So it depends how many warrants is there or the willingness of conversion.

Ordinary warrant doesn't need until expiry date to be converted, it can be converted anytime, but it depends the rules set up when the warrant being issued, can vary from each others. Normally they will set warrant can be converted after 1 year of issueing until its expiry time, normally 5 years.

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Nov 19 2007, 02:07 PM)
must see also if that day force selling or not...nothing much can do if DJ super good den in KLSE its froce selling...you know la...alot of people play contra ma...now days i buy and sell also need to check for force selling...


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mind showing us wat you have ? hehehehe
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what do i have ahh, manyak oh tongue.gif


QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2007, 02:13 PM)
Hope your dream comes true.  smile.gif

Sapcres will have plenty of dilution if its warrant being converted to its mothershare, the number of warrant is huge about 250mil. Sapcres got 1.14 bil share issued plus its warrant if converted, its total outstanding share would be near 1.4 bil, this kind of stock normally need some high volume to push up the share price.

I though before the recent HSI plunge, it nearly hit 32K already (just shy a few points) mah
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ohh thanks for the input, i didnt know that SAPCRES warrant QTY is more than its mother shares rolleyes.gif

haha regarding the HSI, the 33k benchmark was set after the plunging of HSI to 27k

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more cw is coming out soon, scary nia sweat.gif

NEW CALL WARRANTS BY CIMB:
CIMBis offering 4 new Call Warrants ("CW") tomorrow, 14 November 2007 on Bursa Malaysia Berhad ("Bursa CW") (62 sen per CW), Telekom Malaysia Berhad ("TM CW") (28 sen per CW), China Communications Constructions Company Limited ("CCCC CW") (45 sen per CW) and Toyota Motor Corporation ("Toyota CW") (46 sen per CW). Investors are advised to submit the subscription orders to their dealers/remisiers as soon as possible. For more details on:

1. BURSA-CW
2. TM-CW
3. CCCC-CW
4. TOYOTA-CW
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:29 PM)
what do i have ahh, manyak oh tongue.gif
ohh thanks for the input, i didnt know that SAPCRES warrant QTY is more than its mother shares  rolleyes.gif 

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Warrant is about 25% of its mothershare

1.14 billion mothershares
250 million warrants

Just come across a news that Persian Gulf states said they will consider changing their fixed exchange rates which orginated peg with USD will send USD plunging again after Europe and US market open. When USD plunging, US market doesn't actually like it.
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everyday my hk w RED RED RED 1 sien vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:31 PM)
more cw is coming out soon, scary nia  sweat.gif

NEW CALL WARRANTS BY CIMB:
CIMBis offering 4 new Call Warrants ("CW") tomorrow, 14 November 2007 on Bursa Malaysia Berhad ("Bursa CW") (62 sen per CW), Telekom Malaysia Berhad ("TM CW") (28 sen per CW), China Communications Constructions Company Limited ("CCCC CW") (45 sen per CW) and Toyota Motor Corporation ("Toyota CW") (46 sen per CW). Investors are advised to submit the subscription orders to their dealers/remisiers as soon as possible. For more details on:

1. BURSA-CW     
2. TM-CW           
3. CCCC-CW         
4. TOYOTA-CW
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I think KLSE is 'crazy' about the CW, if this trend continue, we will be become a 'gambling' bourse.

It (CW) now become a money printing machine for those investment house and KLSE
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post Nov 19 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:29 PM)
what do i have ahh, manyak oh tongue.gif
So rich? Or just penny stock? tongue.gif
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Hmmm how come Ministry of finance dumping Maybulk shares?
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 19 2007, 02:40 PM)
Hmmm how come Ministry of finance dumping Maybulk shares?
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This is an open market, everyone can buy/sell on their own wish.

May be they though earn enough, want to 'cash out' as well. tongue.gif
Rising more than 1 fold for the last year.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2007, 02:44 PM)
This is an open market, everyone can buy/sell on their own wish.

May be they though earn enough, want to 'cash out' as well.  tongue.gif
Rising more than 1 fold for the last year.
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post Nov 19 2007, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2007, 02:37 PM)
I think KLSE is 'crazy' about the CW, if this trend continue, we will be become a 'gambling' bourse.

It (CW) now become a money printing machine for those investment house and KLSE
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well...it stock market its crowd mentality too....so if u cant beat them...might as well join the wave! thumbup.gif

hmm.. the telekom TM-CW might be gud no?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2007, 02:37 PM)
I think KLSE is 'crazy' about the CW, if this trend continue, we will be become a 'gambling' bourse.

It (CW) now become a money printing machine for those investment house and KLSE
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i agree sweat.gif


QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 19 2007, 02:40 PM)
Hmmm how come Ministry of finance dumping Maybulk shares?
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maybe he sense thunderstorm is coming rolleyes.gif
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Very strange hor, commerz announce its financial result, so good result, but price doesnt move one, how come ??
Cheroy, any idea kah?
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that probably would determine EURO open low today, sigh


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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 19 2007, 02:57 PM)
Very strange hor, commerz announce its financial result, so good result, but price doesnt move one, how come ??
Cheroy, any idea kah?
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well...it stock market its crowd mentality too....so if u cant beat them...might as well join the wave!
It is not about crown mentality, it is about the health of stock market.

The overly issued of CW will mean investment house and KLSE are tapping public money into their 'pocket'.

If they issue CW according to market price, then fair enough but it is usually being issued more than 20% premium over the market, then who will be the ultimate winner?
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 19 2007, 12:28 PM)
If more and more bad news coming out, I think even GE will not help the KLCI


Added on November 19, 2007, 12:29 pmThis Gamuda and Sapcres really sucks. Make me in breakeven point only. Guess I really have no luck in T+3.
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