Ramanan: Train unemployed Indians instead of, foreign workers
Ramanan: Train unemployed Indians instead of, foreign workers
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Dec 18 2025, 01:30 PM, updated 7d ago
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Dec 18 2025, 01:32 PM
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ah, straight away hard at work i see
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If only they can work harder than bangala JeremyLord and zamans98 liked this post
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Dec 18 2025, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 18 2025, 01:34 PM) Not spend time at kopitiam drinking..... wait, I should stop there.... |
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why are they unemployed? fongsk liked this post
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Dec 18 2025, 01:38 PM
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My business, my choice of workers.
My house, my choice of tenants. Stop dictating what we should do. |
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Dec 18 2025, 01:38 PM
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Minimum pay 4000? max_cavalera liked this post
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can't tahan if always suddenly ask for leave sakit kepala oi gemusw liked this post
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Dec 18 2025, 01:55 PM
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u will hear this every often
QUOTE baws, harini saya sakit kepala, tak bouleh datang kerja This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PMbaws, harini saya sakit kaki, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit tangan, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit pungung, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit pingang, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit jantung, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit hati, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saya sakit jiwa, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini atok saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini nenek saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini ayah saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini emak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini abang saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini kakak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini adik saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini anak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini cucu saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini saudara saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja baws, harini atok saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini nenek saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini ayah saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini mak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini abang saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini kakak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini adik saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini anak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini cucu saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti baws, harini saudara saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti |
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Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM
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You want to train unemployed Indian, but are they want to get a job from 8am ~ 530pm? I guess no. Displine is lacking from what i seen
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Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM
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Machas and chinese dont take up TVET courses now either in private or govt technical colleges (actualy more like secondary school)
Even malay kids drop out alot from tvet colleges or once graduate dont want to pursue anything in this field Sure can but need to have takers man |
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Dec 18 2025, 01:57 PM
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One of the HR show me a hard core mc king.
30+ day of MC for year 2025. The champion in the department. And since company gonna laid off some workers soon. So ...... |
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Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM
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local celery rm1700. foreign worker rm3000 basic who want to work?
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Dec 18 2025, 02:03 PM
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Dec 18 2025, 02:19 PM
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no need to talk lah
start training |
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Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM
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Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc This post has been edited by tampinmy: Dec 18 2025, 02:31 PM march4th liked this post
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Dec 18 2025, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 18 2025, 02:49 PM) You expect locals here to work as hard as foreign workers? In business owners always compared. Who can give cheapest but best service/labor then hire la. U think business do charity ah?Those foreign workers work hard because they don't want to be sent back to their own country. Why compare your own countrymen to a foreign labor? That is demeaning. |
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Dec 18 2025, 02:56 PM
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i agree that foreign labour depress our wages..
so enforce on GLCs, MNCs and bursa listed companies 1st.. since they hire the most foreign workers.. then we talk la.. plus task MOE with producing employable ppl.. if u r shit worker after high school, why sud private company pay for gov's failure This post has been edited by seather: Dec 18 2025, 02:58 PM |
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Dec 18 2025, 02:59 PM
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Give higher starting pay first la.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM) Machas and chinese dont take up TVET courses now either in private or govt technical colleges (actualy more like secondary school) Sad but very true, even among my relatives, TVET graduates but not interested in working in this field.Even malay kids drop out alot from tvet colleges or once graduate dont want to pursue anything in this field Sure can but need to have takers man |
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Dec 18 2025, 01:35 PM) I drive past a park at night, can see some regular guys drinking at the park bench. Next morning all the empty beer bottles on the ground.. Its a cultural issue where youths are encouraged to drink by their dads and relatives as a rite of passage into adulthood. Unfortunately 'some' become addicted. I would encourage Dato Sri Ramanan to pursue and mitigate the underlying reasons for unemployment among all instead of just giving lip service to hire locals. At this moment, foreign workers have a significant advantage in employability. This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Dec 18 2025, 03:41 PM |
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM) Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc What’s the numbers? Toto? |
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Dec 18 2025, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM) Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc what are those numbers ? job description codes ? |
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Chance favors the prepared mind.
It's not their skill unprepared. It's their mind. |
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Dec 18 2025, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(wagie @ Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM) local basic salary rm1700foreign worker basic rm1700 plus OT = rm3000 both also have the privilege to earn extra from the OT but the local one does not want to, some more MC+EL each week boss see who really has the heart to works and want to earn more money hence any opportunity you think the boss will choose who to grab? gemusw liked this post
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Dec 18 2025, 05:59 PM
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There are many training programs, but are the ppl willing to endure the process and then continue to do a job? Many half way disapppear.
The issue is not limited to indians only, some ppl are poor but they just don't have the will to continue working for a goal, for them the immediate enjoyment is the most important. Today got job do a bit, not even a week, some friend ajak do another job then disappear already, as long as got quick money. Seen many of these perangai, can't do something stable, got a bit money spend like no need to think punya. And the training programs also maybe not really have good job prospect, so they maybe feeling not confident with the course after attend for some time. Sometimes we may think poor ppl will fight for better and more rajin, but in reality some just prefer to just get by temporarily, like today enjoy what you have tmw die tmw punya problem, you talk so much they also don't listen... |
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Dec 18 2025, 01:55 PM) boss, saya mati, tak boleh kerja ini hari.besok (hari gaji): boss gaji saya mana? you jangan cabar saya. gemusw liked this post
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 18 2025, 05:08 PM) QUOTE(PaperClip224 @ Dec 18 2025, 05:49 PM) ![]() |
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how come got hai san, but no ghee hin gang?
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Dec 18 2025, 07:06 PM
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Malaysia unemployment rate extremely low. Everyone who wants a job has a job.
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Dec 18 2025, 07:20 PM
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Yala give indian work
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 18 2025, 01:36 PM) they chose toyes, not a lie the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY) his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM) they chose to Damn how can I have this lifeyes, not a lie the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY) his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing |
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I don't really see local indians working at mamak yo
Apa macam |
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 18 2025, 07:32 PM) i can't...and that is even if i'm joblessu gotta have purpose and have something you aim to do it is impossible for me to sit at one place for hours doing nothing or chatting....no way but they somehow can...sit from 10AM to 10PM doing absolutely nothing most of them are either super obese or super weak but they still chose to do nothing about it and continue this lifestyle ZerOne01 liked this post
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but they already korner the market in roadworks, car park, repoman, tow truck, ... Jukaicot liked this post
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:41 PM) i can't...and that is even if i'm jobless It's hard to break once you gotten into that lifestyle since you brain already used to itu gotta have purpose and have something you aim to do it is impossible for me to sit at one place for hours doing nothing or chatting....no way but they somehow can...sit from 10AM to 10PM doing absolutely nothing most of them are either super obese or super weak but they still chose to do nothing about it and continue this lifestyle |
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When you pull more in more Indian managers automatically there will be more Indian employees Source: I worked in MNC before MrWrath liked this post
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Give priority to locals first
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM) they chose to Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion.yes, not a lie the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY) his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing |
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QUOTE(Jukaicot @ Dec 18 2025, 09:38 PM) Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion. that's literally his job everyday hence why i say they chose not to work so it's not about giving training to indians, it's they have no plans to work at all and their daily lifestyle is what stephen chow is saying |
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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Dec 18 2025, 07:36 PM) Mamaks being Muslims rather hire Bangladeshis. |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM) they chose to How they sustain lifestyle like that, where got money?yes, not a lie the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY) his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing |
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Indians are either on the high extremes or low extremes.
High extremes are the high amount of lawyers and doctors and IT CEOs. Low extremes are like the Klang parang wielding ones. There are, however, a number of Indians taking up lower jobs, yet, they are sincere and hardworking. Some, even refuse MCs. Shocking, yes, because, most do take MCs even for very minor issues. Like most of the Type Ms. But the problem is, the lower society rowdies give a bad impression as a whole to the Indian communities. With unkempt beard, and awkward dressing and frequently involved in drunken activities and violence. And another problem is the "lepak" culture not taken to task by the government that we see with most government staff. 10am already sit at cafetaria or roadside makcik stall, having kopi and borak-boark. Traffic fines, give discount at the end of the year and make the honest payers look like ass. This post has been edited by amgh: Dec 19 2025, 07:26 AM |
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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Dec 18 2025, 07:56 PM) When you pull more in more Indian managers automatically there will be more Indian employees This is very - very true. Happens everwhere (not only MNC), and soon you will see other type of managers and workers leave also. then in the dept/shop/etc have a kind of smell and a kuil.Source: I worked in MNC before TruboXL liked this post
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QUOTE(Jukaicot @ Dec 18 2025, 09:38 PM) Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion. Skip meals, i notice that drinkers rarely eatbuy cheap alcohol (those u could get it from sundry shop) and got high the whole day and night without eating |
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QUOTE(amgh @ Dec 19 2025, 07:20 AM) Indians are either on the high extremes or low extremes. Problem is the ratio of good type I vs bad type I is like 10 to 1. I've personally worked with a lot of great type I but they are like rare Pokemon.High extremes are the high amount of lawyers and doctors and IT CEOs. Low extremes are like the Klang parang wielding ones. There are, however, a number of Indians taking up lower jobs, yet, they are sincere and hardworking. Some, even refuse MCs. Shocking, yes, because, most do take MCs even for very minor issues. Like most of the Type Ms. But the problem is, the lower society rowdies give a bad impression as a whole to the Indian communities. With unkempt beard, and awkward dressing and frequently involved in drunken activities and violence. And another problem is the "lepak" culture not taken to task by the government that we see with most government staff. 10am already sit at cafetaria or roadside makcik stall, having kopi and borak-boark. Traffic fines, give discount at the end of the year and make the honest payers look like ass. |
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Not to say racist. Even my Indian customer also headache with their own Indian workers. They prefer hired Bangla.
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QUOTE(biggie @ Dec 19 2025, 07:52 AM) This is very - very true. Happens everwhere (not only MNC), and soon you will see other type of managers and workers leave also. then in the dept/shop/etc have a kind of smell and a kuil. I am not sure that is true.. its definitely true for Indian from India but i rarely see that in Malaysian Indian.But Crab story is very true |
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