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ah, straight away hard at work i see
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If only they can work harder than bangala
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 18 2025, 01:34 PM)
If only they can work harder than bangala
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Not spend time at kopitiam drinking..... wait, I should stop there....
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why are they unemployed?
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post Dec 18 2025, 01:38 PM

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My business, my choice of workers.
My house, my choice of tenants.

Stop dictating what we should do.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Dec 18 2025, 01:35 PM)
Not spend time at kopitiam drinking..... wait, I should stop there....
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Unfortunately, bumi ini bukan milik dia orang and they dont have the grit of type c so....
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 18 2025, 01:30 PM)

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if only that can be done we will not have any foreign worker.

Malaysia - Semua ada certificate and expected to be paid 2K and above but want less working hour, more holiday etc.
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can't tahan if always suddenly ask for leave

sakit kepala oi
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post Dec 18 2025, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 18 2025, 01:34 PM)
If only they can work harder than bangala
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OMG, how many reports you got already?

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post Dec 18 2025, 01:55 PM

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u will hear this every often
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baws, harini saya sakit kepala, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit kaki, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit tangan, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit pungung, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit pingang, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit jantung, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit hati, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saya sakit jiwa, tak bouleh datang kerja

baws, harini atok saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini nenek saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini ayah saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini emak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini abang saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini kakak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini adik saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini anak saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini cucu saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja
baws, harini saudara saya sakit, tak bouleh datang kerja

baws, harini atok saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini nenek saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini ayah saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini mak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini abang saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini kakak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini adik saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini anak saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini cucu saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
baws, harini saudara saya meninggal, nak ambik cuti
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post Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM

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You want to train unemployed Indian, but are they want to get a job from 8am ~ 530pm? I guess no. Displine is lacking from what i seen
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post Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM

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Machas and chinese dont take up TVET courses now either in private or govt technical colleges (actualy more like secondary school)

Even malay kids drop out alot from tvet colleges or once graduate dont want to pursue anything in this field

Sure can but need to have takers man
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post Dec 18 2025, 01:57 PM

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One of the HR show me a hard core mc king.
30+ day of MC for year 2025.
The champion in the department.
And since company gonna laid off some workers soon.
So ......
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post Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM

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local celery rm1700. foreign worker rm3000 basic who want to work?
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QUOTE(wagie @ Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM)
local celery rm1700. foreign worker rm3000 basic who want to work?
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Pemalas bodoh pukimak, rm 1700 is enough for the trash lazy ass!
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Dec 18 2025, 01:55 PM)
u will hear this every often
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Lol, on the phone whole day talk cannot finish

Even indian themself wonder what so much to talk until cannot finish
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 18 2025, 01:38 PM)
My business, my choice of workers.
My house, my choice of tenants.

Stop dictating what we should do.
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Wait, was he requesting u to carry out those trainings?

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no need to talk lah

start training
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post Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM

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Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 18 2025, 01:54 PM)
OMG,  how many reports you got already?
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Surprisingly none so that means /k agrees?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 18 2025, 01:34 PM)
If only they can work harder than bangala
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You expect locals here to work as hard as foreign workers?

Those foreign workers work hard because they don't want to be sent back to their own country.

Why compare your own countrymen to a foreign labor?

That is demeaning.
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 18 2025, 02:49 PM)
You expect locals here to work as hard as foreign workers?

Those foreign workers work hard because they don't want to be sent back to their own country.

Why compare your own countrymen to a foreign labor?

That is demeaning.
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In business owners always compared. Who can give cheapest but best service/labor then hire la. U think business do charity ah?
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i agree that foreign labour depress our wages..

so enforce on GLCs, MNCs and bursa listed companies 1st..
since they hire the most foreign workers..
then we talk la..

plus task MOE with producing employable ppl..
if u r shit worker after high school, why sud private company pay for gov's failure

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 18 2025, 02:53 PM)
In business owners always compared. Who can give cheapest but best service/labor then hire la. U think business do charity ah?
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Then I guess the government must limit foreign labor coming in Malaysia if they want to enforce it.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Dec 18 2025, 01:56 PM)
Machas and chinese dont take up TVET courses now either in private or govt technical colleges (actualy more like secondary school)

Even malay kids drop out alot from tvet colleges or once graduate dont want to pursue anything in this field

Sure can but need to have takers man
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Sad but very true, even among my relatives, TVET graduates but not interested in working in this field.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Dec 18 2025, 01:35 PM)
Not spend time at kopitiam drinking.....
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I drive past a park at night, can see some regular guys drinking at the park bench. Next morning all the empty beer bottles on the ground..

Its a cultural issue where youths are encouraged to drink by their dads and relatives as a rite of passage into adulthood. Unfortunately 'some' become addicted.

I would encourage Dato Sri Ramanan to pursue and mitigate the underlying reasons for unemployment among all instead of just giving lip service to hire locals. At this moment, foreign workers have a significant advantage in employability.

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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM)
Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc
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What’s the numbers? Toto?
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 18 2025, 03:30 PM)
Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 18 2025, 02:30 PM)
Does those Indians want to be trained in the first place? I'm an Indian myself, has offered to train those unemployed spm holders, and find job locally or in Singapore, but all disappeared shortly. They prefer to be identified with 04,08,24,69 etc
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what are those numbers ?
job description codes ?
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QUOTE(wagie @ Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM)
local celery rm1700. foreign worker rm3000 basic who want to work?
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local basic salary rm1700
foreign worker basic rm1700 plus OT = rm3000

both also have the privilege to earn extra from the OT but the local one does not want to, some more MC+EL each week

boss see who really has the heart to works and want to earn more money hence any opportunity you think the boss will choose who to grab?


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There are many training programs, but are the ppl willing to endure the process and then continue to do a job? Many half way disapppear.

The issue is not limited to indians only, some ppl are poor but they just don't have the will to continue working for a goal, for them the immediate enjoyment is the most important. Today got job do a bit, not even a week, some friend ajak do another job then disappear already, as long as got quick money. Seen many of these perangai, can't do something stable, got a bit money spend like no need to think punya.

And the training programs also maybe not really have good job prospect, so they maybe feeling not confident with the course after attend for some time.

Sometimes we may think poor ppl will fight for better and more rajin, but in reality some just prefer to just get by temporarily, like today enjoy what you have tmw die tmw punya problem, you talk so much they also don't listen...
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Dec 18 2025, 01:55 PM)
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boss, saya mati, tak boleh kerja ini hari.

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 18 2025, 05:08 PM)
What’s the numbers?  Toto?
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QUOTE(PaperClip224 @ Dec 18 2025, 05:49 PM)
what are those numbers ?
job description codes ?
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Malaysia unemployment rate extremely low. Everyone who wants a job has a job.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 18 2025, 01:36 PM)
why are they unemployed?
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they chose to

yes, not a lie
the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work
they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday
my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type

everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY)
his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM)
they chose to

yes, not a lie
the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work
they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday
my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type

everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY)
his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing rclxub.gif
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Damn how can I have this life
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I don't really see local indians working at mamak yo

Apa macam
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 18 2025, 07:32 PM)
Damn how can I have this life
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i can't...and that is even if i'm jobless

u gotta have purpose and have something you aim to do
it is impossible for me to sit at one place for hours doing nothing or chatting....no way laugh.gif

but they somehow can...sit from 10AM to 10PM doing absolutely nothing
most of them are either super obese or super weak but they still chose to do nothing about it and continue this lifestyle
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but they already korner the market in roadworks, car park, repoman, tow truck, ...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:41 PM)
i can't...and that is even if i'm jobless

u gotta have purpose and have something you aim to do
it is impossible for me to sit at one place for hours doing nothing or chatting....no way laugh.gif

but they somehow can...sit from 10AM to 10PM doing absolutely nothing
most of them are either super obese or super weak but they still chose to do nothing about it and continue this lifestyle
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It's hard to break once you gotten into that lifestyle since you brain already used to it
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When you pull more in more Indian managers automatically there will be more Indian employees

Source: I worked in MNC before
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Give priority to locals first
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM)
they chose to

yes, not a lie
the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work
they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday
my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type

everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY)
his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing rclxub.gif
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Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion.
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QUOTE(Jukaicot @ Dec 18 2025, 09:38 PM)
Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is  expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion.
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that's literally his job everyday laugh.gif

hence why i say they chose not to work
so it's not about giving training to indians, it's they have no plans to work at all
and their daily lifestyle is what stephen chow is saying
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but they already korner the market in roadworks, car park, repoman, tow truck, ...
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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Dec 18 2025, 07:36 PM)
I don't really see local indians working at mamak yo

Apa macam
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Mamaks being Muslims rather hire Bangladeshis.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 18 2025, 07:30 PM)
they chose to

yes, not a lie
the indians that i saw and i realized they don't wanna work
they only want to sleep, wake up, drink beer, go home...and do this cycle everyday
my neighbor's husband and his friends are literally this type

everyday around noon will come to drink beer, thn go yumcha...come back drink beer again thn go home sleep(EVERYDAY)
his friend can sit at one place for 10 straight hours and do nothing rclxub.gif
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How they sustain lifestyle like that, where got money?
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QUOTE(aq_admiral2020 @ Dec 18 2025, 11:23 PM)
How they sustain lifestyle like that, where got money?
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no idea...leech off their wife i guess

their wife is the one working but sales is not even 5% of 99speedmart despite working hour is longer than 99speedmart
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Indians are either on the high extremes or low extremes.

High extremes are the high amount of lawyers and doctors and IT CEOs.

Low extremes are like the Klang parang wielding ones.

There are, however, a number of Indians taking up lower jobs, yet, they are sincere and hardworking. Some, even refuse MCs. Shocking, yes, because, most do take MCs even for very minor issues. Like most of the Type Ms.

But the problem is, the lower society rowdies give a bad impression as a whole to the Indian communities. With unkempt beard, and awkward dressing and frequently involved in drunken activities and violence.

And another problem is the "lepak" culture not taken to task by the government that we see with most government staff. 10am already sit at cafetaria or roadside makcik stall, having kopi and borak-boark. Traffic fines, give discount at the end of the year and make the honest payers look like ass.

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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Dec 18 2025, 07:56 PM)
When you pull more in more Indian managers automatically there will be more Indian employees

Source: I worked in MNC before
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This is very - very true. Happens everwhere (not only MNC), and soon you will see other type of managers and workers leave also. then in the dept/shop/etc have a kind of smell and a kuil.
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QUOTE(wagie @ Dec 18 2025, 02:00 PM)
local celery rm1700. foreign worker rm3000 basic who want to work?
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Salary is matched with productivity and skillset
Why give more to foreigner?
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QUOTE(Jukaicot @ Dec 18 2025, 09:38 PM)
Just curious does he have a job and if so whats his job ? Drinking alcoholic beverage is  expensive in malaysia.even working adult like me rarely drink unless for special occasion.
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Skip meals, i notice that drinkers rarely eat

buy cheap alcohol (those u could get it from sundry shop) and got high the whole day and night without eating
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QUOTE(amgh @ Dec 19 2025, 07:20 AM)
Indians are either on the high extremes or low extremes.

High extremes are the high amount of lawyers and doctors and IT CEOs.

Low extremes are like the Klang parang wielding ones.

There are, however, a number of Indians taking up lower jobs, yet, they are sincere and hardworking. Some, even refuse MCs. Shocking, yes, because, most do take MCs even for very minor issues. Like most of the Type Ms.

But the problem is, the lower society rowdies give a bad impression as a whole to the Indian communities. With unkempt beard, and awkward dressing and frequently involved in drunken activities and violence.

And another problem is the "lepak" culture not taken to task by the government that we see with most government staff. 10am already sit at cafetaria or roadside makcik stall, having kopi and borak-boark. Traffic fines, give discount at the end of the year and make the honest payers look like ass.
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Problem is the ratio of good type I vs bad type I is like 10 to 1. I've personally worked with a lot of great type I but they are like rare Pokemon.
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post Dec 19 2025, 09:57 AM

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Not to say racist. Even my Indian customer also headache with their own Indian workers. They prefer hired Bangla.
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post Dec 19 2025, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(biggie @ Dec 19 2025, 07:52 AM)
This is very - very true. Happens everwhere (not only MNC), and soon you will see other type of managers and workers leave also. then in the dept/shop/etc have a kind of smell and a kuil.
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I am not sure that is true.. its definitely true for Indian from India but i rarely see that in Malaysian Indian.

But Crab story is very true

 

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