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post Dec 15 2025, 09:38 AM, updated 3d ago

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Business owners decry EV station placement in Kepong

Sos: https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...ement-in-kepong

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Business owners in Laman Rimbunan, Kepong, Kuala Lumpur, are objecting to the installation of new electric vehicle (EV) charging stations in the busy commercial area.

They said the charging units take up valuable, high-demand parking bays.

The two charging stations, which are not operational yet, will occupy four bays along Jalan Rimbunan Raya 1.

Lee Kok Kin, 50, who runs a stall selling accessories, said the stations would worsen congestion.

“Parking bays in the middle of the commercial area gets filled up fast,” he said.

“When operational, the charging stations will occupy valuable bays right in the middle of the commercial block, resulting in more vehicles circling around to find a parking space.”

Personal driver Lee Fook Sang, 65, raised safety concerns about the elevated kerb built to accommodate the station.

“The kerb is built higher than the ground level and motorists might not be aware and reverse their car into it,” he said.

Kepong activist Yee Poh Ping said he received complaints from residents on the charging stations.

He said Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) should relocate the stations to the corner of the commercial block.

“Normally, the parking bays at the end of a commercial building are the last to be taken up.

“Placing the stations there will be ideal,” he said, adding that he would send a formal letter to City Hall on the suggestion.

Yee also highlighted the poor road conditions of back lanes of the Jalan Rimbunan Raya 1 shop lots.

“The back lane, which is frequently used by vehicles, especially vans ferrying goods, has many potholes and are a safety hazard to motorcyclists during downpours.

“DBKL should resurface the back lanes and prevent any illegal cooking activities from taking place there too,” he said.
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Cannot charge them for parking as well?
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if it's restaurant owner quickly install ev chargers
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post Dec 15 2025, 09:45 AM

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Sudah tau the parking space valuable

Parking ada bayar ke x?
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post Dec 15 2025, 09:53 AM

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Ev driver more oku that real oku...
My area shopping centre...
All oku slot become ev station...
Oku slot more to far away.....
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post Dec 15 2025, 09:53 AM

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highest bidder get the spots. brows.gif
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lol Rimbunan Raya? The KWSP office there? good luck.
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shop owners who chup the parking with plastic chair no complain pula
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haha local gov charge the companies for the lots. kaching
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post Dec 15 2025, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Dec 15 2025, 09:42 AM)
Cannot charge them for parking as well?
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Kalo can charge them Lu mau charge brp rm/hr, rm50/rm100?
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post Dec 15 2025, 10:13 AM

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Give those business owners free ev, sure they won't complain. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Dec 15 2025, 10:10 AM)
Kalo can charge them Lu mau charge brp rm/hr, rm50/rm100?
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Same parking rate + charging fee lor
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 15 2025, 09:53 AM)
Ev driver more oku that real oku...
My area shopping centre...
All oku slot become ev station...
Oku slot more to far away.....
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i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 15 2025, 09:53 AM)
Ev driver more oku that real oku...
My area shopping centre...
All oku slot become ev station...
Oku slot more to far away.....
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OKU spots are occupied by ICE car before EV exists la

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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It's for you only
It's profitable for mall operator
That's why they all are installing it

kalau nak easy park valet lo
what so hard
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 15 2025, 10:34 AM)
It's for you only
It's profitable for mall operator
That's why they all are installing it

kalau nak easy park valet lo
what so hard
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last thursday, my friend go to mid valley around lunch time.
there's a pet expo + selangor holiday.
parking full until, valet parking also full.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:38 AM)
last thursday, my friend go to mid valley around lunch time.
there's a pet expo + selangor holiday.
parking full until, valet parking also full.
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Year end better avoid malls la
many tourists from other states
Dont say Mid Valley, One U local aeon also full one

want get a spot go early prevent peak hour

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post Dec 15 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:38 AM)
last thursday, my friend go to mid valley around lunch time.
there's a pet expo + selangor holiday.
parking full until, valet parking also full.
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tok to me bout it

went KLCC, pusing until L4, no parking , exit kana caj rm5

tol to n fro - 2.13 x 2
parking - rm5

kana for nothing

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post Dec 15 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:17 AM)
Same parking rate + charging fee lor
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Most of the business will b affected.
No parking who wanna visit there.
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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Dec 15 2025, 09:53 AM)
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Good suggestion.

Charge for spot, charge per charging, and also charge how long the slot is occupied. Confirm no one will try to abuse.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Dec 15 2025, 10:48 AM)
Most of the business will b affected.
No parking who wanna visit there.
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Put it this way, should charge for parking and charging. Maybe charge premium for that parking?

I am not a EV driver .but its a free country no? It's up to the owner of the parking.
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post Dec 15 2025, 11:20 AM

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EV charging spots in shopping malls and commercial parking should be placed as far as reasonable.

This is beneficial to EV owners too. Because people wont simpy go and park over there. You will only park there if you really need to charge
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Dec 15 2025, 11:03 AM)
Put it this way, should charge for parking and charging. Maybe charge premium for that parking? 

I am not a EV driver .but its a free country no? It's up to the owner of the parking.
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good for parking owner, ie, municipal council, but not good for businesses.
a while bck, UK has this problem where they start to increase parking fees, & charge hefty parking fines in busy area.
usually that area us busy until people park illegally.
because of the fines, & fees less people choose the visit & do their shopping elsewhere.
municipal happy cuz they earn some "short change' through fines, but businesses complained drop in traffic.

it's a bit like sawing your ship for material to build a boat, & calling it a win
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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1. Why do you need to have 50-60% battery before you go charge? You can go when you only left 20%. How far is the mall you want to go?

2. How long you want to do your shopping? 2 hours not enough?

3. Tell me you don't have EV without telling me you don't have EV.
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election manifesto: i will remove all EV charger from public parking spot. undi saya.
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dont put DC charger on heavy traffic commercial area la. underutilized parking space dont make much sense.
just put large quantity of AC chargers but allow everyone to park there.
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post Dec 15 2025, 11:49 AM

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my area too... can see they installed few chargers at different location. normally will take about 2-4 parking spots.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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Window shopping to kill time scenario: If ur car left 20%, u go mall, select AC charging, that will take around 4-6 hours charging, depend on the charger speed. You dont need to fight parking with ICE car.

Grocery je scenario: If ur car left 20%, u go mall, select DC charging. less than an hour finish charge. just ngam ngam u finish grocery. No need spend time finding parking.

You dont pump when your petrol still at 50-60%. Same goes with battery. what would you go charge at 50-60%?

Dont think so much, just enjoy it. You will know what to do when you have it.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Dec 15 2025, 11:03 AM)
Put it this way, should charge for parking and charging. Maybe charge premium for that parking? 

I am not a EV driver .but its a free country no? It's up to the owner of the parking.
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U want charging go somewhere else but not the business area. Or else the parking fee cant even cover the rental.
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All street parking shud be max 2 hours
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you mau charge, balik rumah charge la
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Dec 15 2025, 11:43 AM)
1. Why do you need to have 50-60% battery before you go charge? You can go when you only left 20%. How far is the mall you want to go?

2. How long you want to do your shopping? 2 hours not enough?

3. Tell me you don't have EV without telling me you don't have EV.
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i'm not generalizing, i'm just sharing a me problem.
maybe i hav anxiety.
sometimes weekends dating with wife, no plan 1.
it's not uncommon that might spend the whole day there.
shopping + attend gathering/expo/event + movie + lunch + dinner
sometimes wife suka2, for example, "lets go genting eat xxxxxxx".
that anxiety comes from time management.
going for movie for example, u need to commit 2-3 hours there.
buy ticket also have to find slot that dont clash with full charge.

i also feel that it's common courtesy that if u're using public charger, u shoud charge fast, & GTFO when reach 9x%.
it's not just about paying idle fees, but also sharing infra with people

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QUOTE(mick84 @ Dec 15 2025, 11:51 AM)
Window shopping to kill time scenario: If ur car left 20%, u go mall, select AC charging, that will take around 4-6 hours charging, depend on the charger speed. You dont need to fight parking with ICE car.

Grocery je scenario: If ur car left 20%, u go mall, select DC charging. less than an hour finish charge. just ngam ngam u finish grocery. No need spend time finding parking.

You dont pump when your petrol still at 50-60%. Same goes with battery. what would you go charge at 50-60%?

Dont think so much, just enjoy it. You will know what to do when you have it.
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i just hav that feeling that when using public charger, i shoud charge fast, & GTFO when reach 9x%.
cuz it's a shared infra & other people also want to use.
occupying a charge slot, even if u dont mind paying for idle charge, is like those assholes that go to petrol station, spend 2m to pump, then proceed to shop/go toilet for half an hour.
if u're gonna go that, at least move your car to proper parking space & free up the pump.
same principle wit public charger.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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No landed no need buy ev la…😅

Charge at home je.. senang..
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Dec 15 2025, 10:44 AM)
tok to me bout it

went KLCC, pusing until L4, no parking , exit kana caj rm5

tol to n fro - 2.13 x 2
parking - rm5

kana for nothing

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KLCC, Pavillion KL and TRX tak boleh pergi with car. Not only expensive like fuarck, find exit and parking space also is a nightmare. Go with LRT or MRT better.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Dec 15 2025, 02:24 PM)
KLCC, Pavillion KL and TRX tak boleh pergi with car. Not only expensive like fuarck, find exit and parking space also is a nightmare. Go with LRT or MRT better.
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Klcc and trx ayam got fav spot always empty one even peak hours brows.gif

Pavilion bukit jalil and 1U i give up

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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Dec 15 2025, 02:07 PM)
No landed no need buy ev la…😅

Charge at home je.. senang..
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yes, this is a need
if EV adoption rate gets higher, few EV in condo mana cukup.

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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 15 2025, 12:07 PM)
All street parking shud be max 2 hours
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Klcc and trx ayam got fav spot always empty one even peak hours brows.gif

Pavilion bukit jalil and 1U i give up
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Dec 15 2025, 12:47 PM)
election manifesto: i will remove all EV charger from public parking spot. undi saya.
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Bos. Kota Kemuning Quayside Mall suda ada 4 Tesla free destination charger 💪🏾😎🔥

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 15 2025, 08:34 PM)
Bos. Kota Kemuning Quayside Mall suda ada 4 Tesla free destination charger 💪🏾😎🔥
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Ya ke? will plan a visit... collect charging batch in apps!
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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i give simple solution, don't drive EV
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QUOTE(pohyi96 @ Dec 16 2025, 11:38 AM)
i give simple solution, don't drive EV
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kenot la wei....people nowadays are stress-free...
We need to find more ways to stress ourselves..
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 15 2025, 10:22 AM)
i dont really like the idea of EV charger in shopping mall.

if i dont hav charger at home, & rely on going to mall to charge, i cant really count on it because what if it's occupied when i'm there?
that means i should make sure my EV have at least 50-60% battery even if going to nearby mall.
but if i'm already on50-60% charge, not that much more that i can top up.
depending on on charger speed, meaning it can be done charging pretty quickly.
meaning i hav to time my stay in the mall, cuz idle charge is expensive AF, & it's also courtesy to vacant the spot once your car is fully charged.
that means i i hav to go bck to parking, circle around & find regular parking.
i can arrive early to get EV charger spot, but by the time i need to moved my car, already many shoppers & regular parking spot might be hard to come by.

if i dont rely on mall EV charger, usually, the most stresful part of mall visit on weekends/holidays, or going event/expo is finding parking.
after that roam free, spend however much time i like in the mall.
i dont know, maybe for me, charging EV in mall is an anxiety inducing activity.
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u don't like EV charger but shopping mall like EV charger due to ESG compliance, and also they might profit more from the profit sharing from CPO. Win-win situation for shopping mall.

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post Yesterday, 11:51 AM

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Just tell them that EV parking can increase their profits.
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my condo proposed to install ev charge and many agreed to install.

90% agreed
10% object

it means many of them are EV users?
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 16 2025, 11:51 AM)
Just tell them that EV parking can increase their profits.
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Shopping malls should see this coming if our EV take up rate more than 20%
Which mean mall parking slot can generate more income even weekend they only come window shopping
Another income stream

but too bad
majority Malaysia are still reject EV then complain they took up our slot

OWAI


marvinben
post Yesterday, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 16 2025, 11:53 AM)
my condo proposed to install ev charge and many agreed to install.

90% agreed
10% object

it means many of them are EV users?
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Many want to switch to EV. It's here whether the 10% like it or not.
GalaxyV
post Yesterday, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Dec 16 2025, 11:57 AM)
Many want to switch to EV. It's here whether the 10% like it or not.
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any reason why wanna switch?

cheaper to maintain?
marvinben
post Yesterday, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 16 2025, 12:04 PM)
any reason why wanna switch?

cheaper to maintain?
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No import tax no excise duty for one.
Maintenance is not cheap, EV just defer the major cost item down the line. (Motor, inverter, leaky cooling lines, AC Compressor)

loserguy
post Yesterday, 04:47 PM

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kek ev owners becoming the new entitled bicycle-tards
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post Yesterday, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 16 2025, 05:47 PM)
kek ev owners becoming the new entitled bicycle-tards
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NANII??! 👺👺🔥


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post Yesterday, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 16 2025, 04:47 PM)
kek ev owners becoming the new entitled bicycle-tards
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Yes more EV chargers and bicycle lanes pls whistling.gif

GalaxyV
post Yesterday, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Dec 16 2025, 04:42 PM)
No import tax no excise duty for one.
Maintenance is not cheap, EV just defer the major cost item down the line. (Motor, inverter, leaky cooling lines, AC Compressor)
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For me, I DUN want.

 

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