i wonder why wanna compare 3870x2 with gtx.. from the name itself shows that radeon 3 series is suppose to fight with the to-be-released nvidia card or at least the new G92... not the one that had been released last year!

if people comparing the coming radeon with nvidia 11 months old card, then it shows how slow ATi is..

summore there's no point for ATi to produce a card just to fight with gtx or ultra since nvidia has makes lots of profits from those 2 card already..

the new released 3870 currently looks disappointing and seems imcapable to fight with either gtx or ultra..

i think ATi is using wrong strategy by naming it with 3 series.. suppose they just put name like 2970 to avoid high expectation from end user..

note my keypoint.. currently..

i think the keyfactor here is the driver.. if it is true the dissappointing performance now is bcoz of driver, then ATi can only win if they manage to come out with a good driver before the new nvidia card comes out.. if not, then they are just going to repeat the same mistake like before...

not we want to compare with 11 month old card...but temporary 8800ultra is the king...if we are not compare to it..then which to compare??    cos 2 core in 1 card the price almost equal to 88gtx price (assume we buy 2 HD3870 price) unless we doin sli for 8800gt 

i wonder why wanna compare 3870x2 with gtx.. from the name itself shows that radeon 3 series is suppose to fight with the to-be-released nvidia card or at least the new G92... not the one that had been released last year!

if people comparing the coming radeon with nvidia 11 months old card, then it shows how slow ATi is..

summore there's no point for ATi to produce a card just to fight with gtx or ultra since nvidia has makes lots of profits from those 2 card already..

the new released 3870 currently looks disappointing and seems imcapable to fight with either gtx or ultra..

i think ATi is using wrong strategy by naming it with 3 series.. suppose they just put name like 2970 to avoid high expectation from end user..

note my keypoint.. currently..

i think the keyfactor here is the driver.. if it is true the dissappointing performance now is bcoz of driver, then ATi can only win if they manage to come out with a good driver before the new nvidia card comes out.. if not, then they are just going to repeat the same mistake like before...

not we want to compare with 11 month old card...but temporary 8800ultra is the king...if we are not compare to it..then which to compare??    cos 2 core in 1 card the price almost equal to 88gtx price (assume we buy 2 HD3870 price) unless we doin sli for 8800gt 

The name hardly means anything. It's an arbitrary name chosen by marketing. I think they just wanted to distance themselves from the failure that was the R600.

And they were never planning to go up against the gtx or the ultra with a single RV670. It's strictly a performance midrange card. The fact that it can even be compared against a G92 is a bonus. And i doubt it's the drivers. This thing is a direct derivative of the R600. It just seems that the 6xx series tends to perform less than the paper specs would have you believe. But RV670 is a fine chip really for its price range.

The fact that it can even be compared against a G92 is a bonus.

only 3 cf bridge were used for the quad cf setup ..... just weird

You finally saw through? 

irenic, not everybody needs an expensive card to e-p3n15 wagglery.

When the HD 3850 256MB reaches RM500-550 and 512MB, RM650-RM700 with non-official boards (look out for Palit/Xpertvision), nVidia can't beat them in any way. Even the 8800GT 256 non-official is still 200USD.

Crossfire 2 3850 512MB/3870, and you get a system that can beat the new 8800GTS in Crossfire by a lot. Don't underestimate AMD, they're still in the game and by the looks of it seemingly winning this winter in sales.

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Added on November 16, 2007, 9:36 pm
It's supposed to be like that.

I won't say all, but keep in mind that the 8800GTS "New" is still bandwidth limited. Performance will whimper when you go to 1920*1200++. Dual crossfire cards are the way to go in high res.

256-bit is 256-bit. You can't bypass that unless you get GDDR4, or you do multi-GPU.
The GT doesn't have any problems with resolution scalings. They seem pretty fine besides for Crysis.

dual gpu gc hav dual performance of 1gpu gc?

dual gpu gc hav dual performance of 1gpu gc?