i wonder why wanna compare 3870x2 with gtx.. from the name itself shows that radeon 3 series is suppose to fight with the to-be-released nvidia card or at least the new G92... not the one that had been released last year!

if people comparing the coming radeon with nvidia 11 months old card, then it shows how slow ATi is..

summore there's no point for ATi to produce a card just to fight with gtx or ultra since nvidia has makes lots of profits from those 2 card already..

the new released 3870 currently looks disappointing and seems imcapable to fight with either gtx or ultra..

i think ATi is using wrong strategy by naming it with 3 series.. suppose they just put name like 2970 to avoid high expectation from end user..

note my keypoint.. currently..

i think the keyfactor here is the driver.. if it is true the dissappointing performance now is bcoz of driver, then ATi can only win if they manage to come out with a good driver before the new nvidia card comes out.. if not, then they are just going to repeat the same mistake like before...

This post has been edited by irenic: Nov 16 2007, 01:21 PM

i like to compare with 8800gt more than 8800gtx.. both in the same price range, and both are new card.. and for now definitely 3870 lose.. 3870x2 shud beat 8800gt, since it has 2 cores.. and higher price.. but will the the 20-30% improvement enuff to beat the next coming nvidia high end that might has same value as the 3870x2? hmm we will see..

yeah i realize this rv670 is a fine chip.. but in the eyes of mainstream, i dun see it as drastic change from 2900xt.. i'm not talking bout the technical details... just bout pure performance

This post has been edited by irenic: Nov 16 2007, 05:51 PM

yeah i agree with u.. but remember that dual gfx wont have the performance of 2 cards.. especially crossfire where u can only feel the benefits in certain games.. while some games will result in poorer performance when cf enable..

well i dunno how's the performance of 8800gts g92 yet, but if 3850 cf can beats the card in all games or benchies, than that's very good.. if not, better stick with single gts.. less heat.. less hassle..