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AyamBlend
post Dec 10 2025, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(arcadicus @ Dec 10 2025, 06:58 PM)
If thats the case, Why not just take IGCSE? why must UEC?
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UEC equivalent A level, u can skip foundation and enter year 1 degree in most major

Most uec student take SPM
Last time maybe can choose not to take UEC but nowadays heard many schools are making it mandatory

Even if they don't take part in SPM, SPM subject are being taught in school Bahasa, sejarah etc.
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I don't think UEC grads are putting high hope on the recognition

It's just a promise and played by many politicians for so many years, most of the time, better just keep quiet and ignore the request instead of giving some creative explanation, where disgusted many people outside there.

Unity affected or not I don't know, but definitely talents are being drained because of political reasons.


Not going to discuss further on this further as most people just wanna troll laugh.gif


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post Dec 10 2025, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 10 2025, 08:23 PM)
CIS is the only option after sjkc if don't want to go SMK. T20 would go private/international school.
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After SJKC you have the option for SMK or SMJKC or if rich parents private Chinese Schools or International Schools.
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:36 PM

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To be honest, at this point just dont need to recognize UEC already, like we care like that. We take uec because wanna go overseas, not masuk local uni which don't even have a spot in top 50 QS world university ranking. So pathetic to see those politicians who are still being delusional thinking that ticket to public uni carries alot of weight when in fact students have moved on since long time ago. In fact, we are doing much better without your help.

Commenting as an ex-UEC student
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 08:29 PM)
After SJKC you have the option for SMK or SMJKC or if rich parents private Chinese Schools or International Schools.
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There are also private schools offering Msian curriculum. CIS is using their own curriculum.

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post Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Dec 10 2025, 06:50 PM)
This question will require one to travel back in time where most /k/tards weren't even born yet. I'll try to be concise but I doubt that people will be bothered anyway.

Generally, Chinese schools were founded way back in the early 19th century by the Chinese immigrants. The buildings were funded by the community because they know education was the shitz & they were like "if the Brits can establish schools like Penang Free School then why can't we?" So they imported teachers from mainland China who handled the syllabus creation & subsequently the standard of exam.

Basically, all the Chinese schools in the early 20th century were private schools & they were happy & dandy to be left alone.

Anyway, due to the development in the mainland where Sun Yat-sen aimed to topple the Qing dynasty & subsequently travelled all over the world trying to obtain overseas Chinese's moral & financial support, the Chinese schools here became radicalised.

British tak suka & want to gain control of these schools by enacting Education Ordinance. After kena bully by the British, came the Japs. After Japs surrendered, in came the PKMs.

So you can see why the Chinese were spooked when the government tried to integrate the Chinese schools & came up with the Fenn-Wu report. The government of that time then responded with the Barnes report that basically called for the abolishment of the Chinese schools. The Razak report became the middle ground that resulted in our education system today where primary schools consists of SRK & SJK but secondary levels are unified with option for vernacular language subject.

To the Chinese (well, not all since many has since became bananas now), this was considered a hijacking of our Chinese schools & education which has been around before SRKs even exist. Anyway, slowly but surely, one by one Chinese secondary schools converted themselves into national type high school, which to some Chinese, was considered as an act of betrayal. There were quite some big hoo-ha where some students, teachers & schools staffs rioted in protest, police got involved, tear gas was released, batons were bashed & that was how we got CIS & UEC today.

EDIT: I studied in SRK / SMK / local uni.
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I also SK, SMK and IPTA

Ur story telling is more akin to Malay supremist version. Result of brainwashing?

Chinese setup school to educate masses, rather bcoz British have so i also want. It cost money you know.....

Ur history timeline is going haywire. The education ordinance is happening post WW2 while Sun Yat Sen have managed to topple Qing dynasty by 1911 - 40 years earlier. My guess u r trying to say communist radicalization in post WW2

Between you somehow made wild claim. Which CIS converted to national school over last 60 years? Instead more CIS branch been setup
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Dec 10 2025, 08:06 PM)
UEC mahal ka?
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RM300+ per month as supported by donation and fund raising
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:24 PM)
U r claiming UEC r left for students that failed spm but these are at different level. One need preU to go for bachelor degree.
So took spm then UEC then go IPTA.
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Eh I believe you misunderstood me. sweat.gif

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 08:26 PM)
For Chinese Private Schools.
SJKC don't offer UEC path. Only Chinese Private Schools offer pathways to UEC.
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I'm pretty sure you're confused.

A student can take the path of SJKC in primary -> UEC in secondary.
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post Dec 10 2025, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(sapusapu @ Dec 10 2025, 08:36 PM)
To be honest, at this point just dont need to recognize UEC already, like we care like that. We take uec because wanna go overseas, not masuk local uni which don't even have a spot in top 50 QS world university ranking. So pathetic to see those politicians who are still being delusional thinking that ticket to public uni carries alot of weight when in fact students have moved on since long time ago. In fact, we are doing much better without your help.

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Agreed. Doesn't make sense to pay so much for CIS if you just want to enrol in local Uni.

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post Dec 10 2025, 08:48 PM

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This UEC issue protest blablabla is bullshit really.

Look, those that opt for UEC never aims for local U, they know very well where they heading after finish study. If they don't, their fucking parents should be shot.

Get real ok, in this country, there are things that wont change. Just accept the reality and find ways to go around it. If you are good, u will be good wherever you are, doesn't matter UEC, SK, SJK, or even sekolah agama... ayam serious with this statement. Seen many already from around me. Go to super school, receive super education from parents, but still ended up like shit and going no where in life.

So if you think UEC could save your life if you are useless to begin with, then u will still fail in life.

Move the fuck on for those who's politicizing this UEC. As some mentioned, niamah how many cina actually go study there?? Diuz
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 10 2025, 08:11 PM)
Of cos.
Chinese private schools is not cheap!
Starting from RM10,000-RM15,000 annually for primary levels and going up significantly for secondary/international programs, with major costs covering tuition, facilities, and sometimes lunch/insurance, but excluding uniforms, transport, and books.
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So what is the problem? Just do UEC then send overseas private uni lar. Apa problem?
Many people take A-Levels, many people also take AusMat.

Local uni, we all know Type C limited quota. Even if UEC recognized it will be after giving the limited spaces to Type C that did STPM. Priority to STPM students. If space still available after that then UEC student will be considered. If no space, too bad. Go private, kan? 👍


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post Dec 10 2025, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM)
Ur story telling is more akin to Malay supremist version. Result of brainwashing?
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Eh, you can question my post but don't la simply accuse me. All the things I mentioned are based on what I read quite some time ago. I'm from Penang where we have quite an extensive first hand account of the four high schools that took part in the student riot around merdeka time IIRC.

Chung Ling, Chung Hwa, PCGHS & Han Chiang.

These schools possess some records of this event & other historical evidences that go back to their founding days. After all, Chung Ling is famous for being the oldest Chinese school in Malaya & the first to join the nationalisation of Chinese schools.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM)
Chinese setup school to educate masses, rather bcoz British have so i also want. It cost money you know.....
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I added some sarcasm into my post because /k/tards has no patience to read wall of texts bro. But I think it makes sense that the establishment of these English schools motivated the Chinese to setup their own schools as well.

Penang Free School was established in 1816. Earliest Chinese school in Penang was around 1819.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM)
Ur history timeline is going haywire. The education ordinance is happening post WW2 while Sun Yat Sen have managed to topple Qing dynasty by 1911 - 40 years earlier. My guess u r trying to say communist radicalization in post WW2
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No, I was referring to Education Ordinance 1920. Look it up.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM)
Between you somehow made wild claim. Which CIS converted to national school over last 60 years? Instead more CIS branch been setup
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Prior to the few years before merdeka, all Chinese high schools were private schools & resisted the government's attempt in nationalising them. However, when Chung Ling's principal accepted federal funding & giving up the country's most senior Chinese high school, it opened up a floodgate. There was speculation that the principal at that time was spooked by the assassination of Chung Ling's previous principal David Chen a few years earlier but no matter what, Chung Ling's "betrayal" resulted in a few years & incidents where students & teachers were targeted by the police & government & all these culminated in the existence of CIS that doesn't follow KPM's syllabus.

QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 08:40 PM)
I also SK, SMK and IPTA
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I added these because I wanted my story to lend credence that I'm not being biased. If I was from CIS then /k/tards will claim that I was being brainwashed but in fact, these are all from historical records made available here.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Dec 10 2025, 09:17 PM
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:14 PM

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i want you close shop you no close i no face

English is dominanating the world, C become banana, BM maybe was a lingua franca, we want make BM great again, huhahuha, C still learn English and Chinese, cibai!!

we have ambition to be the greatest race again, we taught Rome to build ships, we existed before the Earth existed

one simple way to recognize uec is that the Chinese language was invented by us, huhahuha



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post Dec 10 2025, 09:16 PM

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demi maruah negara dan tanah mel....

tak boleh iktiraf...

kan
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 10 2025, 03:41 PM)
see the whole world which country got this kind of education system where there are so many streams?

nak promote unity but do the opposite, those international schools lagi another issue  doh.gif

politician just tryna use this problem to earn credit jer la, MCA 60 tahun handling this also no progress whistling.gif
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yea learn from singapore only has 1 stream which is english

but here can ah?
those b40 that only can speak bahasa rempit how whistling.gif

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post Dec 10 2025, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Dec 10 2025, 09:12 PM)
Eh, you can question my post but don't la simply accuse me. All the things I mentioned are based on what I read quite some time ago. I'm from Penang where we have quite an extensive first hand account of the four high schools that took part in the student riot around merdeka time IIRC.

Chung Ling, Chung Hwa, PCGHS & Han Chiang.

These schools possess some records of this event & other historical evidences that go back to their founding days. After all, Chung Ling is famous for being the oldest Chinese school in Malaya & the first to join the nationalisation of Chinese schools.
I added some sarcasm into my post because /k/tards has no patience to read wall of texts bro. But I think it makes sense that the establishment of these English schools motivated the Chinese to setup their own schools as well.

Penang Free School was established in 1816. Earliest Chinese school in Penang was around 1819.
No, I was referring to Education Ordinance 1920. Look it up.
Prior to the few years before merdeka, all Chinese high schools were private schools & resisted the government's attempt in nationalising them. However, when Chung Ling's principal accepted federal funding & giving up the country's most senior Chinese high school, it opened up a floodgate. There was speculation that the principal at that time was spooked by the assassination of Chung Ling's previous principal David Chen a few years earlier but no matter what, Chung Ling's "betrayal" resulted in a few years & incidents where students & teachers were targeted by the police & government & all these culminated in the existence of CIS that doesn't follow KPM's syllabus.
I added these because I wanted my story to lend credence that I'm not being biased. If I was from CIS then /k/tards will claim that I was being brainwashed but in fact, these are all from historical records made available here.
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Chinese high school hv to make a choice whether to nationalize then. It is 1x decision. After that where got further CIS change to SMJK.
Like i say earlier, more CIS branch been setup. Foon Yew Kulai in 2005 and Foon Yew Seri Alam in 2015. Between Foon Yew is largest CIS in Malaysia with total students exceed 10k.

So how u conclude CIS going convert 1 by 1?
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so why sabah sarawak can recognise but not west malaysia?
sebab sabah sarawak tak racist? brows.gif
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 10 2025, 09:05 PM)
So what is the problem? Just do UEC then send overseas private uni lar. Apa problem?
Many people take A-Levels, many people also take AusMat.

Local uni, we all know Type C limited quota. Even if UEC recognized it will be after giving the limited spaces to Type C that did STPM. Priority to STPM students. If space still available after that then UEC student will be considered. If no space, too bad. Go private, kan? 👍
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Of course give type C STPM priority. Later this UEC come kacau some more, even more tension. Become private vs public school.

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post Dec 10 2025, 09:36 PM

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Yes, the UEC is generally considered academically stronger and more rigorous than the SPM, with a deeper syllabus often compared to A-Levels or STPM, recognized internationally for university entry, while SPM is essential for local public universities and government jobs in Malaysia.

why bother. u do ur own uec and apply private company saja.

type c is ultra competitive, nothing could stop us
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 10 2025, 09:27 PM)
Chinese high school hv to make a choice whether to nationalize then. It is 1x decision. After that where got further CIS change to SMJK.
Like i say earlier, more CIS branch been setup. Foon Yew Kulai in 2005 and Foon Yew Seri Alam in 2015. Between Foon Yew is largest CIS in Malaysia with total students exceed 10k.

So how u conclude CIS going convert 1 by 1?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you must be referring to this passage of mine?
QUOTE(talexeh @ Dec 10 2025, 06:50 PM)
To the Chinese (well, not all since many has since became bananas now), this was considered a hijacking of our Chinese schools & education which has been around before SRKs even exist. Anyway, slowly but surely, one by one Chinese secondary schools converted themselves into national type high school, which to some Chinese, was considered as an act of betrayal. There were quite some big hoo-ha where some students, teachers & schools staffs rioted in protest, police got involved, tear gas was released, batons were bashed & that was how we got CIS & UEC today.
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If yes, then the nationalisation of Chinese schools back then wasn't something that happened simultaneously. It started with Chung Ling, which got Han Chiang's Lim Lian Teng furious. IINM, by merdeka, Chung Ling is the only Chinese school that "converted" & they underwent a few years of their students protesting & going against the school administration. After merdeka, more & more Chinese schools accepted nationalisation. Nowhere did I mention that all Chinese schools accepted the government funding. For example, Han Chiang was capable enough to fend off the need to obtain financial assistance from the government.

Among the four Penang schools I mentioned that took part in the riot, PCGHS, Chung Ling & Chung Hwa got nationalised. PCGHS & Chung Ling managed to setup their own private school branch, Chung Hwa did not while Han Chiang stood steadfast.

It was quite a messy situation with a lot of accusations, internal strife among the Jiao Zong organisation, trusted comrades turned heel & more.

Hope this clarifies.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Dec 10 2025, 09:45 PM
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Nowadays most that take UEC also take SPM.
Will use SPM to apply local U and if cannot get will go for overseas U mainly in China or Taiwan.
Also most that sit for UEC are from private chinese schools so family are usually middle/ upper middle or rich.
Doing private tertiary education shouldn't be a problem.
So recognizing UEC or not is not so pressing anymore.

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