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neosaint99
post Nov 16 2007, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:45 PM)
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my insuflex n tar sheets cover everywhere and more (except in the front fender cavity)
so can say mine vibramat compatible d lor
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:56 PM)
they ll reflect the sound wave... so the sound from outside ll be reflect out and the sound from inside ll reflect.. real thing i dunno la i just read from their website only.. but if can get for boot or hood only ll be nice cos can be fit in directly wont look so ugly if stick the whole bitumen/dynamat on to the hood/bood
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these things are dampers
they dont deflect or reflect sound...
they absorb the vibrations caused by the cars operation thus reducing the intensity of the sound waves produced by that vibration

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post Nov 16 2007, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 02:49 PM)
orange good also. but i like black biggrin.gif
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black is hotter wor
mythbusters did a test
when left in the sun, it was consistently 10degC hotter than a white car


Added on November 16, 2007, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:15 PM)
neosaint99 ur roof is cover with insuflex rite?
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yup
wazup dude?...


Added on November 17, 2007, 12:03 am
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 06:26 PM)
where can find d-link power adaptor. mine kua jor
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can use the normal variable voltage adapter with the cross plug
lastime i did that when i busted my dlink adapter tongue.gif
12bucks je thumbup.gif


Added on November 17, 2007, 12:10 am
QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 16 2007, 05:08 PM)
Its more like = bitumen compound -> absorb sound... superlon/insulflex (sponge compound) -> isolate/block sound
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dude...they are one and the same
they DAMPEN the vibrations...
...NOT absorb or block or isolate or reflect or deflect or anything of the sort...

bitumen does it by virtue of its inertia which is caused by its relatively high density
insuflex does it by its spongy and rubbery texture

bitumen would probably be better at dampening vibrations
but insuflex would be a better all rounder as it can dampen vibration reasonably well and also act as a heat insulator wink.gif

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post Nov 17 2007, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 17 2007, 12:22 AM)
morning i going to jinjang..check why my FC so high
the handle just pull out nia...no need lembik de
if wan put those soundproof,something black black colour like tar.1 door RM150.quite heavy de
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u have to remove the spring clip holding the handle in
by right, no need,...can just pry it off and it should pop off
but the new ones still tight
so use sumthing small
light a testpen or sumthing
look sideways at the door (so you can see between the door panel and the handle)
look for the spring clip opening
and use the testpen or wutever to slowly push it off
once that pops off, you can take off the handle easily
and the rest is a piece of cake
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post Nov 17 2007, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 17 2007, 07:00 AM)
wan to know how to take off the roof top. do u remeber the roof top handle? can we add 2 more at rear since it was missing?

the power adaptor i did b4. but after sometime my router will autorestart.

i might be use insuflex since is heat insulator. maybe i can fo rear boot n roof 1st. now i wonder where can find the floor carpet.
i will cover it up nice afer put insuflex on the rear boot. ^^
door atm still thinking how to do it.


Added on November 17, 2007, 7:05 am
http://buydirect.mmwallet.com/buydirect/pr...s.asp?prodID=14
check this out.
Singchaii might like is. it can cool down the car interior when under the hot sun. ^^
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u have to take out the A, B and C pillar covers 1st
to remove the B pillar covers u need to unbolt the seat belt anchor points
then you unscrew the handles
and then take out the upper plastic lining
then take out those round push in clips at the back
and also you have to take off the sunshades and the read view mirror
and also take off the middle roof light
once all these are off, the roof cover should be able to come down

regarding they back handles, i know....its really a stupid thing to do to remove them
but i forgot to check if there are bolt on points under the cover
if you do take out the cover, do let us know if there are points

regarding that ventilator thinggy, what does it look like?....any pics for it?
they only telling what it does (which is like doh.gif ....sooooo obvious.... dry.gif )
want to see what the actual product looks like to warrant such a hefty price tag hmm.gif


Added on November 17, 2007, 8:29 pm
QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 17 2007, 07:53 AM)
Damper = Absorb vibration
Sound proof = Avoid road noise going into cabin.

Damper and sound proof is different thing..
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and how,...pray tell,...does road noise get transfered into the cabin?.... innocent.gif

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post Nov 17 2007, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 17 2007, 09:42 PM)
I mean on the road sound like car pass by and also those tire crushing the road sound..
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sighz...ok...whatever floats your boat dude.... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 17 2007, 09:54 PM)
A.B.C. pula. wait sifu sky let us see the booklet. if good i order as well. ^^

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there u go


Added on November 17, 2007, 9:56 pm
haiya. very eazy. cut hole and let leg on the floor like flinstone.  biggrin.gif
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ooo...it controls the aircond rotary blower izit....but then where does the air go?
does it just recirculate in the car? hmm.gif

umm....i have the haynes book
dun think it tells how to remove the roof n all...atleast i dont recall seing it sweat.gif
i usually use it for servicing the technical parts of the car
others all use logic je tongue.gif

A pillar is the one at the windscreen
B pillar is the one in the middle of the 2 doors
C pillar is the one at the back glass


Added on November 18, 2007, 10:14 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 18 2007, 01:02 AM)
photocopy cost also above 10bucks lah  doh.gif

the book is about 1.1cm thick... dunno how many pages, lazy wanna count... but its standard A4 paper lah....
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i've photocopied the book before
cost me 20+ including color copy of the cover
so now from outside it looks like ori whistling.gif
onli the inside can see its photostat...hehehe


Added on November 18, 2007, 10:14 am
QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 18 2007, 08:30 AM)
I wanna buy Air Fuel Ratio Gauge.. Dunno can put on my car or not.
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i think AF gauge can onli fix for injection cars rite?...
carbie can me?... hmm.gif

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post Nov 18 2007, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 18 2007, 10:23 AM)
That why I'm asking lor.. Cause thinking to install the AF gauge. Or else, install Apexi turbo timer. Inside got A/f, o2, battery voltage display.
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for carbie engines no use install turbo timer all
u'll be paying for so many functions which you cant use
waste of money wor
not to mention the more complex something becomes the higher the probability that it will fail as there are more parts
for cabie the best your can go afaik is vacuum gauge lor sad.gif
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post Nov 18 2007, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 18 2007, 02:43 PM)
AFAIK= As far as i know  smile.gif

-pWs-
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hahaha
yeap
thats it biggrin.gif


Added on November 18, 2007, 2:52 pm
QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 18 2007, 02:41 PM)
turbo timer jus for fun only hehe
and use for long distant travel ppl
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y use for long distance?
sorry...blur blush.gif

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 18 2007, 02:53 PM)
how is ur volt meter? install oledi?
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still waiting to arrive
hehe
dun worry
i will post on my mod thread once installed brows.gif
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post Nov 18 2007, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 18 2007, 02:54 PM)
dun 4get to video it up when u start ur car n how the volt goes. ^^
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yup yup
will do bro
prob is my car is currently in west malaysia
hvnt ship over yet
so even if it reach now still have to wait for car to arrive here
then oni can fix n test
hope can get it shipped here by early december biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dcarbon @ Nov 18 2007, 08:27 PM)
NA engine sure can install turbo timer la...
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what will the timer control?...
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post Nov 18 2007, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Nov 18 2007, 08:32 PM)
i want to ask, if compare saga lmst and savvy, which got more leg room ?
and how big is the lugguage space in the boot of lmst?
and does it rattle or unstable at 110km/h?
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not that much diff actually
can sit comfortably in it (my height is 6 feet)
savvy is wayyyyyyyy more stable than iswara at high speed (e.g. 170 savvy still ok...i dont even 1 2 talk about iswara at that speed shakehead.gif )

the onli thing in the iswara's favor is its price tag and its boot space
other than that from performance, stability, safety and fuel efficiency aspect, the savvy wins hands down
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 18 2007, 10:02 PM)
Yes.. But not the aftermarket type.
Turbo timer is useless for NA car. Cause it just for cosmetic purpose.. But the Apexi turbo timer I mention, it had 3 feature that is useful. So install the turbo timer, it more safe place and some time can play turbo timer. Just like my alarm got turbo timer.. When I on turbo timer, my fc increase de.. Cause when off, I can go more 10km. Haha.
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what are the 3 features?
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 18 2007, 10:16 PM)
Savvy still stable in 170km/h because it compact ma. Doesn't like LMST.. Look big, but inside kosong geh. But car my after install aftermarket absorber and also UR fender bar, Still stable at 160km/h.


Added on November 18, 2007, 10:17 pm

It showed AFR reading, O2 Reading and Voltage reading.
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its more stable coz of the chasis and suspension tuning...they really got it spot on biggrin.gif
iswara can go 160...the stabilizer bars n new shocks will improve the stability...but above 130/140 can feel it start to 'float' d
the savvy still feels solid on the ground

ooo
urs is efi version izit....
ala...must tell lar
we all carbie je
all wondering how can sense O2 n all
hahaha


Added on November 18, 2007, 11:08 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 18 2007, 10:22 PM)
6 feet. me short abit. will u be facing difficulty of reading the meter? hmm.gif
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not that much lar...
still quite ok wan
if i had the cash i would have gotten a savvy
but then...no moolah sad.gif
sighz...


Added on November 18, 2007, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 18 2007, 10:27 PM)
last time i did,
got it from chop shop,
around 600 i guess
dont play play ah..
that car kena baling monster pun ok lagi tau
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wah..
4G13 got o2 sensor ah?
where is it located ah singchaii?
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there are 2 sources
rm600 is from taiwan
rm900 is from japan
they are both recon
cant get new afaik
but definitely get the jap wan
the ones coming from taiwan not as good
i looked at the two
couldnt really tell the diff by just looking at them
mayb got markings or sumthing which im not aware off
this 1 depends on ur mechanic
if he is honest, he will tell you where it is coming from wink.gif

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wah....every1 oso diy sound proofing d
bagus bagus
now our milo tins wont be milo tins anymore thumbup.gif
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post Nov 19 2007, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 19 2007, 07:48 AM)
The small and the big de.. Hehe..
My carnot EFIla brother. Hehe. My car is carb.. The AFR reading, I think can install at carbie car. I asked my friend liao. He gonna find out to for me. Hehe,,
That shift light cannot la.. Macam F1 saja.. Hehe.. I wan this 2 either 1..

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I can get this 2 model below RM200..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
Now you know the syoik of DIY?? Hehe... Teach me how to remove rear door panel as well.. Hehe..
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aik
tot afr is usually from the ECU and the O2 reading is from the emmissions sensor in the exhaust
usually only EFI have it

but if can do for carbie cars,...would love to know

keep us updated what your friend says k thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 19 2007, 09:26 AM)
Both also below RM200.

I very doubt with the RM27k LMST paint. Cause my car 8 months and have alot crack paint and chipped out.. I damn dulan. Baru 8 months old, already got such thing.. Make me wanna repaint it again..
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wah
so fast ar?
send back warranty lar
8months is rediculous! blink.gif


Added on November 19, 2007, 11:46 am
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 19 2007, 09:37 AM)
but when i plug into cigratte light hole. u will hit it when u in 1st gear. ^^
ya mah. like u say b4 use nippon metallic spray paint lo.
where can find the bulu bulu. i wan see other patern. ^^
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diy extra socket down there near the gear shift like i did lor thumbup.gif


Added on November 19, 2007, 11:47 am
QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 19 2007, 10:37 AM)
My front fender pasted jor geh. But is not bitumen. Is those I stick at the front hood..

Guy, I just get something.. The RM27k LMST, is not 1298cc.. Is 1332cc.. I saw it at my insurance policy. Car capasity, 1332 cc.. So I called my friend to ask about the policy izit it written wrong info.. And he told me is real. I just wanna reconfirm, how many here have read the insurance policy? How much the capacity it written?
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mine says 1298 in the policy
weird man ur one...they custom over bore for you ar
like that should be more power lor ur car drool.gif

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 19 2007, 11:48 AM)
Asked already.. No cover.. Haih... 8 months the paint already like wanna give up.. 18 months, sure hilang..
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take photo and publish it in the papers
then say that proton duwan to do anything about it
c what the media has to say about the crappy quality brows.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 19 2007, 11:53 AM)
direct plug into ciggarette socket also can, but less accurate loh... if tap to the ecu or signal cable den more accurate loh...
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how does it detect from ciggie socket?


Added on November 19, 2007, 5:32 pm
QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:28 PM)
mine LMSS says 1298 wor.. is it underrated for road tax purposes?
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nope
thats how engines are made
their total displacement is always just a teeny bit below the number which they round up to wink.gif


Added on November 19, 2007, 5:34 pm
QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 19 2007, 02:53 PM)
I had a negative feedback for bitumen.. I had see the old bitumen that I stick on my door, it started melt. I believe it happen because it too hot.. And I'm worry now I stick so much, will it all get melt??
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sighz...this is y i mentioned before that the normal tar strips used for roofing not good for car
they soften too much in the heat...sometimes until can fall off oso
thats y should use the proper bitumen sheets
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