ART is not beneficial to Malaysia that's for sure but with so many countries acceding to the request, those who do not agree to it are bound to suffer badly.

Suffer as in how? Loss of jobs, businesses closing down and massive tariffs that would send out semiconductor industry back into the Stone Age, and foreign investors would exit our country.

We just have to ride through this Trump Administration and renegotiate when a new administration comes in. We cant be whinning over something that we have no control over.

for instance, we go to bank to borrow money, the bank say will only lend us the money if we give this collateral and at X% rate. Have you ever seen a borrower say, 'I don't want to give you collateral, and I wan Y% rate?

I think a lot of people are delusional, as though Malaysia is a global economic powerhouse and the rest of the world is dependent on us and we can negotiate a better outcome compared to other countries in the world.

Lastly, for those who are against ART, they forget to tell you, whether deliberately or not, within the next few months (Dec 25 to June 26, latest), the US Supreme Court will be deciding on whether the Trump Administration can impose tariffs. Based on the latest up-to-date consensus, it is very likely the Trump Administration will lose, and all tariffs imposed by Trump will be removed.

Which essentially would mean putting us back to pre-Trump Administrartion tariff situation.

So have fun biting each others head off over nothing.

That's where you are wrong. Trump has given a 90-day ultimatum to finalize Art, otherwise tariff will be hit with high tariff, potentially 24% to 50%.

Everyone in the world is subject to the same tariff and those who conform only got hit with 10-19% tariff. If we do not adhere buinsesses will move to other countries, would be a big lost for our country. While you are foaming in the mouth about sovereignty, try eating grass as a substitute, when you don't have money or job.

If there is a better way of doing things, it would have already been thought off. Just like the opposition, screaming of sovereignty and what not, and coming up with empty solutions. No one is looking at the bigger picture, would rather see country crash and burn, fall off a cliff.

Even China, such a big economy slapped with a 100%+ tariff, you think Malaysia can survive with our bilateral trade with the US being USD 77 b?

Does anyone want to FAFO?

Not sure if I read wrongly or not, but i think your points support my arguments.

I am more in fvaour of ART, sacrfice that little bit of losses, so that everyone can survive during this difficult times.