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TSperfectedservice
post Yesterday, 12:48 PM, updated 2d ago

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Done — I ran the numbers and produced a baseline summary plus a sensitivity table (electricity × petrol prices). I uploaded the baseline table for you to view. Below I’ll explain the assumptions again, highlight the key results, and give interpretation + recommendations.

Assumptions (short)

Distance: 60 km/day → 21,900 km/year.

QV-E price: RM 80,000 (vehicle body; battery leased separately).

X50 price (comparable variant): RM 89,800 (OTR).

Loan: 9 years, 3.5% p.a., 10% down payment for both cars.

QV-E battery lease: RM 275 / month (RM 3,300/yr).

EV efficiency: 15 kWh / 100 km.

X50 fuel: 6.5 L / 100 km.

Baseline electricity: RM 0.50 / kWh.

Baseline petrol: RM 1.99 / L (you supplied).

EV maintenance saving assumed: RM 600/yr (reduces EV running cost).


Key baseline numbers (from the generated table)

Monthly loan payment (9y, 3.5%)

QV-E: RM 921.01 / month

Proton X50: RM 1,197.87 / month


Annual running cost (energy/fuel + battery lease)

QV-E: RM 4,942.50 / year (energy + battery lease − maintenance saving)

X50: RM 2,832.77 / year (fuel only)


Total yearly cost (loan + running)

QV-E: RM 15,052.62 / year

X50: RM 15,748.51 / year


Total cost over 5 years (includes down payment)

QV-E: RM 76,400.53

X50: RM 75,551.14


Delta (EV − Petrol, 5yr): RM +849.39 (EV is ~RM850 more expensive over 5 years)


Total cost over 10 years

QV-E: RM 144,801.06

X50: RM 142,122.28


Delta (EV − Petrol, 10yr): RM +2,678.78 (EV is ~RM2.7k more expensive over 10 years)



> Note: those totals include down payment and loan payments for each year counted (they do not attempt to model resale value).



Sensitivity table (highlights)

I computed totals for petrol prices = RM 1.99 / 2.60 / 3.20 and electricity = RM 0.40 / 0.50 / 0.60 /kWh. A few notable cells:

If petrol = RM1.99/L and electricity = RM0.40/kWh, QV-E is slightly cheaper over 5 years (EV 5yr RM74,758 vs X50 5yr RM75,551 → EV is RM793 cheaper).

With the current baseline electricity RM0.50/kWh & petrol RM1.99/L, EV is ~RM850 more expensive over 5 years (as shown above).

If petrol rises (no subsidy) to RM 2.60/L or RM 3.20/L, the EV becomes clearly cheaper over both 5- and 10-year horizons across the electricity values used.


Interpretation & notes

Although the QV-E has a lower monthly loan (car price RM80k vs X50 RM89.8k), the battery lease (RM275/mth) is the big recurring cost that narrows EV’s advantage.

With the current subsidised petrol RM1.99/L, the two cars are very close on a total-cost basis — within +/- a few thousand ringgit over 5–10 years. In my baseline, the X50 is slightly cheaper over 5 and 10 years by under RM3k (10-year).

If petrol subsidies are removed (petrol > ~RM2.60/L) or if you charge at lower electricity rates (e.g., RM0.40/kWh), QV-E becomes the cheaper option over time.

I did not include resale values, differences in insurance, road tax, or detailed maintenance schedules (these can move the result). EV resale with battery-lease models can be more complex.


Next steps — what I can do for you now

Add resale value assumptions (e.g., projected 5yr residual values) to get net ownership cost.

Include insurance + road tax + scheduled maintenance costs explicitly.

Produce a break-even petrol price (for given electricity price) where EV and petrol total cost equal — I can calculate that precisely.

Export the full sensitivity grid or a downloadable CSV/XLSX.


Which of those would you like me to do next?

This post has been edited by perfectedservice: Yesterday, 12:55 PM
Jigoku
post Yesterday, 12:51 PM

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LazadaGot
post Yesterday, 01:18 PM

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why count until so complicated?

Perodua QV-E is a RM110k car with 9 years battery warranty

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editboy
post Yesterday, 01:30 PM

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Your chatgpt forgot you need to buy a spare X50
nebula87
post Yesterday, 01:33 PM

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Chatgpt: Any ICE car is better than EV...

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terradrive
post Yesterday, 01:37 PM

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lol you sure 6.5l per 100km for x50?

one ktard that always cry about his x50 here makes me think nope

This post has been edited by terradrive: Yesterday, 01:38 PM
ycs
post Yesterday, 01:42 PM

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