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loserguy
post Dec 1 2025, 10:48 PM

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For context, the speed limit for that stretch of road is 90 kmh.

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This is exactly why average speed cameras are important.
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post Dec 1 2025, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 1 2025, 10:49 PM)
if the speed limit is 90km/j...driving at that speed at fast lane is considered hogging or not?
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Hogging is one thing. On the highway, it is always ikut kiri kecuali memotong.

You can drive at 30 km/h on the OVERTAKING lane, as long as you are overtaking someone slower than that.

Speeding is an entirely different thing. The speed limit is an absolute. You cross that limit, you are already in the wrong. Acting high and mighty, posting videos, flashing his lights like his hand has a cramp, just shows how ignorant the guy is.
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post Dec 1 2025, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Dec 1 2025, 10:55 PM)
Fast lane is laluan memotong
Even at 90kph pls stay at middle or left lane
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Even if you drive at 200 kmh, you should still move to the middle or left lane if not overtaking someone.
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post Dec 2 2025, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 2 2025, 06:02 AM)
But why cam car can on infinite overtaking mode?
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cam car sendiri bodo, mana ada infinite overtaking mode

flashing his lights to announce that to the world "come see orang bodo"
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post Dec 2 2025, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 08:17 AM)
under ideal condition, if the highway sleep imit is 90, u should be driving on the middle.
right lane for overtaking, where left most usually for slower vehicles cuz got merging/exits, & heavy vehicles that has lower legal speed limit or just cant go that fast due to limitation.

if u're doing highway sleep limit, u hab no business being in right most lane.
lantak la the road has speed cam or not, it's none of your busines other drivers willing risk saman for overtaking due to whatever reason.
also, for average speed cam, driver may choose to go fast at the beginning, slowing down on final stretch, or stopping at R&R, & still be under the average speed overall.
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The right lane is only for overtaking. It has nothing to do with whatever speed you are driving at. If a slowpoke overtakes another slowpoke at 50 kmh, there is nothing wrong with that. Wait until he completes the overtaking maneuver and moves back to the left lane, then move on. There is no such thing as staying in the overtaking lane just because you are moving at a certain speed.

There is no such thing as the road in front being all clear. What is important is the lane to the left, if it is clear and the guy does not move back to the left, then it is road hogging. Whatever the speed.

Speeding is a separate thing. It is very simple, you go over the speed limit, you sudah salah. As for the video, the guy is clearly showing that he is breaking the speed limit. Average speed limit cameras will hopefully stop these idiots. It is another level of bodo to floor the pedal for a stretch and then sit somewhere to wait the time out lol.
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post Dec 2 2025, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 08:38 AM)
on the contrary, there is, just not explicitly enforced.
middle lane for constant cruise speed, aka speed limit.
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no la. are you sure you passed your drivers test? maybe it is time to take a refresher course.
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post Dec 2 2025, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 08:38 AM)
on the contrary, there is, just not explicitly enforced.
middle lane for constant cruise speed, aka speed limit.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 08:46 AM)
u expext doing speed limit mean u got the right to be in the right most all the time?
thought not often enforced, there are rules that say u need to move bck to left after overtaking.
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There are no lane specific speed limits. There is only one speed limit for one stretch of road.

The overtaking lane is for overtaking only, not for speeding at whatever speed you like. You break the speed limit, you salah.

Finish overtaking, move to the left.
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post Dec 2 2025, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 2 2025, 12:55 PM)
yes dashcam car might be those annoying cibai, but in this instance, where 3-4 cars are overtaking the lane hogger from left, and there's literally a football field length of empty road in front - i support this dashcam car/lorry, even better if he langgar that hogger masuk longkang.

is it so hard to understand if you have empty road in front, and there's car close behind you - MOVE THE FUCK AWAY. MOVE THE FUCK AWAY. I drive a 400hp ICE car and i still move the fuck away from rightlane if i see behind me got some speeding s70 or any other crap car, just MOVE THE FUCK AWAY if you driving slow.

MOVE THE FUCK AWAY.
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Actually it has nothing to do with any "empty road in front". As long as there is a slower vehicle on your left, then you can overtake on the overtaking lane.

If there is a 50 kmh lorrydriverrocks overtaking another 40 kmh lorrydriverrocks, you still need to wait patiently until it completes the overtaking maneuver. Doesn't matter if the road in front is clear from JB all the way to Perlis. You still need to wait.

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post Dec 2 2025, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 03:26 PM)
speeding wrong, lane hogging is literally wrong as well.
the 'keep left is if not overtaking" is not only common courtesy, but also police can saman u for hogging right lane or driving too slow.
it's just that it'a less enforced, i hav literally seem police issue lane hogging saman before.

speeding on the right lane, is not wrong depending on situation or reason.
for example, say a person speeding due to legit urgency, like rushing to hospital due to family member illness or accident, or wife in labor, etc.
maybe at that time, the speeding driver willing to take the risk & saman bcoz of that.
even if get speeding saman, 1 can choose to fo court instead, & judge can dismissed the saman if reason is legit enough.
again, i hav seen this happens before.

it's not up to road hogger to do vigilante work to make sure every1 follow speed limit.
u can capture evidence & send it to police/jpj for authorities to take action.
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No. This is bad advice. Nearly everyone who chooses to argue (especially for speeding lol) will kena the full penalty.

Rushing to hospital because of family member accident is not a legit excuse. Who are you, the attending doctor or organ donor?

And unless your wife is pregnant everytime you get fined (lol) that isn't going to work either.
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post Dec 2 2025, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(ahchat @ Dec 2 2025, 04:37 PM)
there are cases, where people actually go up into court to get their summon dismissed....just that, many people dont want the hassle, and just pay the summon
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Lol, go ahead and try. Especially for speeding. This should be fun.
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post Dec 2 2025, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 05:04 PM)
say what u want, maybe u haven't hav an emergency before.
fyi, u also probably dint know how often judge throw out or reduce traffic saman for legit reasons.
as i said, i nvr said speeding us not wrong, in fact, i start with speeding is wrong.

people going over speed limit acknowledge they are wrong but willing to risk due to reason that might be wrong or legit.
road hoggers, doesn't even want to acknowledge they have done anything wrong.
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If you go to court, there are only two options: admit your mistake or argue.

There is no admit but justify.
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post Dec 2 2025, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 2 2025, 05:31 PM)
clearly i nvr been to court.
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If you are ever in that situation, you have a choice: either admit your guilt or plead innocent.

If you admit your guilt, then you move to sentencing, then you can start all the grandfather and grandmother stories and hope for a discount. Most of the time, for this sort of traffic offence it is just admit your mistake and move on to the payment counter, pay then balik.

You may get lucky and get off lightly. Gip muka kesian, maybe magistrate will give you a discount. But trying to justify it and hoping for it to be thrown out, lol, that ain't going to happen.

If you insist you are not guilty, then the process becomes longer. They may ask you to come back later. This one is not about your grandfather or grandmother stories but more about did you commit the offence or not. Unless you have pretty strong proof that you did not do it, probably not a good idea.

edit: normal speeding cases, you do not even need to go to court. In fact, for some I think you can even do it online now, but I haven't had to try before, touch wood, lol.
https://www.kehakiman.gov.my/ms/sistem-peng...lian-sistem-epg

edit edit: sos mapren kena for henfon before

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post Dec 2 2025, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Dec 2 2025, 06:51 PM)
O'right, here we go again.

If average speed cam important.

Saman for lane hogger is equally important.

I pay my speed Saman, you pay your lane hogger Saman.
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It is a good thing. Keeps the roads safer for everyone.

The proper place for speeding is Sepang or some other race track.
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post Dec 2 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Dec 2 2025, 07:03 PM)
We should increase our speed limit to 145km/h
Lane hogger happily hogging at high speed, car behind also happy following at high speed.
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I think, not sure, some years back, the speed limit on the highway was 120 km/h but Samy Vellu reduced it to 110 km/h because of the high accident rates.

I hope they don't raise the speed limits. Most drivers already drive so dangerously, it will be worse if they go even faster.
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post Dec 2 2025, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(IWannAAR @ Dec 2 2025, 07:48 PM)
THIS!

the problem with lane hogging is that this issue will not be resolved and people just need to accept that it will stay unless these lane hoggers are seriously punished

from this thread alone, can already see so many lane hoggers are in denial and defensive, refusing to accept that it is wrong. instead, they change topic and talk about speeding. this kinda holier than thou mentality very difficult to change, so we just have to accept that lane hogging will forever be an issue as long as no enforcement is done to tackle it, just like speeding
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I think the best way is to tackle speeding first.

The reason is simple: There will ALWAYS be someone faster than you.

And to that someone, you will the one "lane hogging".

So tackle the speeding issue, and you automatically reduce lane hogging issues as well.

Most problems occur when there is a big speed differential between vehicles. So for those driving at 140 km/h, you are as much a nuisance to someone driving at 100 km/h as those lorries moving at 60 km/h.
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post Dec 2 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Dec 2 2025, 08:19 PM)
if you really study into accident case, most accident cause by slow stubborn driver. fast driver will have adrenaline rush to keep them stay awake and more focus. hence less mistake.

and yes, i only talking about driver fast, not 2 car racing each other.
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LMAO, no la, that one many people tried to argue before. It will not work.

This is the main reason the speed limits are lowered during festive seasons. Studies have been done. Speed limits go up, accidents and fatalities go up.

edit: kek time for a break

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post Yesterday, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Dec 3 2025, 12:41 AM)
berape kali nak cakap, since when i said speeding is not wrong?
& berape kali bak cakap again, road hogging, not moving back to left after overtaking is also an offense punishable with saman.
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edit edit: suka hati u la, kek

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