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SkyCaptain
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Nov 29 2025, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 28 2025, 10:38 AM) Just stick to iphone. Android has no resale value. Android ecosystem is rather bloated. Been using them for years. Mostly Samsung and pixel. Both drain battery like crazy. Iphone can last longer. However, I'm still an Android user because I am too poor for apple. Pixel phones run a clean version of Android with minimal bloatware and receive timely updates directly from Google—similar to how iPhones receive iOS updates. As for battery life, it's not a simple Android vs. iPhone issue. Battery performance varies significantly across models, usage patterns, and software optimization. While most Android devices excluding Pixel phones may suffer from bloat or battery issues, it's not a universal truth. If you're switching from iPhone and demand the most seamless integration with less shock, go for Pixel phones and nothing else when switching to Android.
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ryder_78
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Nov 29 2025, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(ericcheng2021 @ Nov 29 2025, 12:26 AM) Was using iPhone, tried Samsung, got green screen and black boxes after a year, switch back to iPhone. Also Samsung body feels cheap. Maybe China androids phone better. I have been using Chinese Android phones for many years now, 15 years if not more from Xiaomi to Huawei and currently Vivo. All these phones stand the test of time without any issue. The phones are only upgraded either because the speed is too slow or laggy, or certain apps don't work anymore due to the outdated system. My Huawei Mate 20X was thrown by my mischievous 2-year old niece high up into the air and landed on tile or concrete floor more than 100 times, not a scratch to the phone and it still works like normal. It had a protective case on it though so that would have helped. The Huawei was replaced by a Vivo earlier this year as Air Selangor 2.0 app couldn't work with the phone anymore. No green lines on the screen though i noticed a colleague also had this green lines on the phone, not too sure if it's a Samsung as I didn't ask. This post has been edited by ryder_78: Nov 29 2025, 10:45 AM
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malz89
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Nov 29 2025, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Nov 29 2025, 10:40 AM) Pixel phones run a clean version of Android with minimal bloatware and receive timely updates directly from Google—similar to how iPhones receive iOS updates. As for battery life, it's not a simple Android vs. iPhone issue. Battery performance varies significantly across models, usage patterns, and software optimization. While most Android devices excluding Pixel phones may suffer from bloat or battery issues, it's not a universal truth. If you're switching from iPhone and demand the most seamless integration with less shock, go for Pixel phones and nothing else when switching to Android. Im on pixel 9. I have always on clean android. Battery and resale value sucks.
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ryder_78
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Nov 29 2025, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 29 2025, 10:02 AM) Don't jump if you can afford iphone. Better resale value. Can easily change phone yearly. Androids have literally 0 resale value. It will depend on the individual on how important is resale value of a phone. To me I don't look at resale value as the phone will either be discarded or given away to small kids (if they are still working) when I upgrade to a new phone. Anyway it's not frequent for me to upgrade phones and based on the longevity of the phone and my usage pattern, it's usually ~5 years on average the phones are upgraded, and by that time the phone is considered worthless even though it may be a flagship during its time.
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ericcheng2021
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Nov 29 2025, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 29 2025, 10:45 AM) I have been using Chinese Android phones for many years now, 15 years if not more from Xiaomi to Huawei and currently Vivo. All these phones stand the test of time without any issue. The phones are only upgraded either because the speed is too slow or laggy, or certain apps don't work anymore due to the outdated system. My Huawei Mate 20X was thrown by my mischievous 2-year old niece high up into the air and landed on tile or concrete floor more than 100 times, not a scratch to the phone and it still works like normal. It had a protective case on it though so that would have helped. The Huawei was replaced by a Vivo earlier this year as Air Selangor 2.0 app couldn't work with the phone anymore. No green lines on the screen though i noticed a colleague also had this green lines on the phone, not too sure if it's a Samsung as I didn't ask. so far all of friends using Chinese Android (redmi, huawei, oppo) have no problem with screens but samsung got 3 friends with similar issue
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malz89
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Nov 29 2025, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 29 2025, 10:54 AM) It will depend on the individual on how important is resale value of a phone. To me I don't look at resale value as the phone will either be discarded or given away to small kids (if they are still working) when I upgrade to a new phone. Anyway it's not frequent for me to upgrade phones and based on the longevity of the phone and my usage pattern, it's usually ~5 years on average the phones are upgraded, and by that time the phone is considered worthless even though it may be a flagship during its time. Even a 5 year-old iphone has strong resale value. My wife changes her phone every 2 years due to contract. Can still sell around 60% of RV, which is not too bad. For androids can keep aside. Hence, I usually use my phone for 4 to 5 years before changing.
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vhs1
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Nov 29 2025, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(sam378 @ Nov 28 2025, 09:49 AM) If moving on from iPhone, what is the best android flagship that currently future proof? looking for best camera, video and OS. Not fold or flip please. Thanks guys Oppo Find X9/ X9 pro. Got IR as bonus.
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Zhik
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Nov 29 2025, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 28 2025, 10:38 AM) Just stick to iphone. Android has no resale value. Android ecosystem is rather bloated. Been using them for years. Mostly Samsung and pixel. Both drain battery like crazy. Iphone can last longer. However, I'm still an Android user because I am too poor for apple. Samseng n pixel are overpriced.
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ryder_78
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Nov 29 2025, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 29 2025, 11:05 AM) Even a 5 year-old iphone has strong resale value. My wife changes her phone every 2 years due to contract. Can still sell around 60% of RV, which is not too bad. For androids can keep aside. Hence, I usually use my phone for 4 to 5 years before changing. Good to know that the iPhone has good resale value even for a relatively old 5-year model. Anyway all the Android phones I have are not expensive. The old phones are all below RM2k, and the latest Vivo although MSRP was about 4.8k I bought if for only RM2.2k.
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malz89
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Nov 29 2025, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 29 2025, 11:28 AM) Samseng n pixel are overpriced. Yes but they are currently the least bloated androids on the market. Clean U/I, hence, they are my first to go Android phones. Not a fan of iphone, hence, have never switched to one. Everyone around me uses an iphone, so having an Android is bit of a difference.
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malz89
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Nov 29 2025, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 29 2025, 11:34 AM) Good to know that the iPhone has good resale value even for a relatively old 5-year model. Anyway all the Android phones I have are not expensive. The old phones are all below RM2k, and the latest Vivo although MSRP was about 4.8k I bought if for only RM2.2k. Yes. That's the thing. Android phones are retailed high during launch and waterfalls after 6 months. Unlike iphone, prices are rather stable, thus, the high resale value. Coz TS has been using iphone. He should just stick to iphone. Not worth moving to android given that the price difference is not that much comparing flagship to iphone. Taking the resale value into consideration, I would say iphone worth more.
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brian81st
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Nov 29 2025, 03:12 PM
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New Member
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if you like to take pictures and video, stay on iphone. Iphone is still the king in video recording.
if you are not that type of user, you can move to android if you want. just choose one with at least snapdragon 8 elite.
on smoothness wise, it is now on par with iphone. which previously was not the case.
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beverlykho
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Nov 29 2025, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 29 2025, 11:34 AM) Good to know that the iPhone has good resale value even for a relatively old 5-year model. Anyway all the Android phones I have are not expensive. The old phones are all below RM2k, and the latest Vivo although MSRP was about 4.8k I bought if for only RM2.2k. 2.2k is a good price. Which Vivo model and what was the promo package that knocked the price down that much? I'm using Huawei Mate 30 Pro. Need to change as bank apps are complaining about the OS. This post has been edited by beverlykho: Nov 29 2025, 06:54 PM
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Acap1986
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Yesterday, 06:49 AM
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Ahha5 me no money for ip so I'll go for honor x9d
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ryder_78
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Yesterday, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Nov 29 2025, 06:54 PM) 2.2k is a good price. Which Vivo model and what was the promo package that knocked the price down that much? I'm using Huawei Mate 30 Pro. Need to change as bank apps are complaining about the OS. It's the Vivo X90 Pro. I actually bought 2 units, one for ~2.3k and another one for 2.2k for my mother after about 2 months when the price dropped further. Brand New from official Vivo store on Lazada. During sales period the promotion vouchers are very high, 7 July, 8 August, 9 September etc. The X100 Pro was already selling for almost 1 year while the X90 Pro stock is still available and being cleared at rock bottom prices. There are few who bought it at slightly below 2k later through the months until all are out of stock. This post has been edited by ryder_78: Yesterday, 11:03 AM
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M2020
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Yesterday, 03:11 PM
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Getting Started

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There are a few super channels on YouTube giving yearly best phones awards in categories, you can start as reference then go shops and test out.
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beverlykho
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Yesterday, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 30 2025, 11:02 AM) It's the Vivo X90 Pro. I actually bought 2 units, one for ~2.3k and another one for 2.2k for my mother after about 2 months when the price dropped further. Brand New from official Vivo store on Lazada. During sales period the promotion vouchers are very high, 7 July, 8 August, 9 September etc. The X100 Pro was already selling for almost 1 year while the X90 Pro stock is still available and being cleared at rock bottom prices. There are few who bought it at slightly below 2k later through the months until all are out of stock. Many thanks for the information.
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