QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 26 2025, 10:05 AM)
saga 1.3 auto standard clearing stock at 30k.so selling very good
Price of 2026 New Proton Saga MC3
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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 26 2025, 10:05 AM) saga 1.3 auto standard clearing stock at 30k.so selling very good dogbert_chew liked this post
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Today, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2025, 10:31 AM) Guarantee of all the CVT suppliers they can choose, they chose the worst oneTai choo yee already confirmed it's punch CVT So naturally the lower 2 variant with aisin 4AT will sell...the top spec won't The only lesson proton didn't learn from the past mistake but lucky they chose the best supplier for the 4AT gearbox. Aisin |
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Today, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 28 2025, 05:38 PM) of all the CVT suppliers they can choose, they chose the worst one i cannot straight say they chose the worst CVT because i cannot say it's proton's fault or punch's faultbut lucky they chose the best supplier for the 4AT gearbox. Aisin for me CVT is CVT....they want cheap i understand but what i don't understand is why the punch CVT they used isn't programmed to emulate 7 gear like every other CVT out there? so it's proton's fault for not programming it like that or punch's fault for having this design flaw? |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2025, 05:41 PM) i cannot straight say they chose the worst CVT because i cannot say it's proton's fault or punch's fault No point to emulate 7spd. Just be a CVT like scooter is fine. But for God's sake ditch the clutch based coupler, go with traditional torque converter with lock up clutch.for me CVT is CVT....they want cheap i understand but what i don't understand is why the punch CVT they used isn't programmed to emulate 7 gear like every other CVT out there? so it's proton's fault for not programming it like that or punch's fault for having this design flaw? dogbert_chew liked this post
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Nov 28 2025, 05:59 PM) No point to emulate 7spd. Just be a CVT like scooter is fine. But for God's sake ditch the clutch based coupler, go with traditional torque converter with lock up clutch. the 7 speed is for high speed low RPM which i find it oddso far only 1 youtuber noticed this problem and tested it it's not as bad as previously which is over 3k RPM at 110KM/H now it's 2.7k RPM at 110KM/H which is still high considering other CVT out there can do 2k RPM that's the purpose of the 7 virtual gear....since CVT can emulate as many virtual gear as they want |
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Nov 28 2025, 05:59 PM) No point to emulate 7spd. Just be a CVT like scooter is fine. But for God's sake ditch the clutch based coupler, go with traditional torque converter with lock up clutch. Suspect need to finish the contract orders/ stock, still available due to lower than expected Iriz, Persona sales.Punch new factory at Tg Malim definitely making the latest variants. |
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 28 2025, 05:43 PM) Emgrand is using 6AT. Which should still be cheaper than DCTEdit: whoops, 2026 5th gen Emgrand also updated to 4-pot turbo BHE15TD engine same as X50 with DCT as well to handle the power increase. This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Today, 07:21 PM |
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 28 2025, 07:06 PM) Emgrand is using 6AT. Which should still be cheaper than DCT 6AT is not cheapEdit: whoops, 2026 5th gen Emgrand also updated to 4-pot turbo BHE15TD engine same as X50 with DCT as well to handle the power increase. that's why car makers rather use CVT or DCT real 6AT is only reserved to expensive cars or D segment cars for now, the only car makes that dare to put 6AT into their smaller cars are korean cars that's only because they control and manufacturer everything themselves |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2025, 07:58 PM) real 6AT is only reserved to expensive cars or D segment cars for now, the only car makes that dare to put 6AT into their smaller cars are korean cars that's only because they control and manufacturer everything themselves Geely Emgrand gen4 has 1.5NA with 6AT. Its considered low entry level sedan in China. Gen5 1.5T switching to DCT |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2025, 07:58 PM) 6AT is not cheap those mazda 2 / 3 / cx-3 ... all 6-speed auto lerthat's why car makers rather use CVT or DCT real 6AT is only reserved to expensive cars or D segment cars for now, the only car makes that dare to put 6AT into their smaller cars are korean cars that's only because they control and manufacturer everything themselves QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 28 2025, 08:31 PM) As I posted, emgrand is 帝豪 right ?Geely Emgrand gen4 has 1.5NA with 6AT. Its considered low entry level sedan in China. Gen5 1.5T switching to DCT gen4 帝豪 1.5na also cvt lerr This post has been edited by phunkydude: Today, 08:51 PM |
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 28 2025, 08:31 PM) As I posted, do you know what brand's 6AT are they using?Geely Emgrand gen4 has 1.5NA with 6AT. Its considered low entry level sedan in China. Gen5 1.5T switching to DCT hyundai and aisin's 6AT is not cheap at all QUOTE(phunkydude @ Nov 28 2025, 08:39 PM) and how much are those cars selling for there's a reason why malaysians keep complaining it's "overpriced"...part of that cost went to the 6AT This post has been edited by MR_alien: Today, 08:55 PM |
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 28 2025, 05:38 PM) of all the CVT suppliers they can choose, they chose the worst one I think money factor. punch cvt really cannot pakai one. why they dont get same supplier like myvi d-cvt..this punch cvt even improve still far behind competitors. maybe cheap cheap, so they opt for thatbut lucky they chose the best supplier for the 4AT gearbox. Aisin This post has been edited by DS51: Today, 09:28 PM |
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why car like this need 48k? top spec should be just 18k.
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saga executive spec or BYD seal 6?
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this is like final fantasy remake
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