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TSRaddus
post Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM, updated 5w ago

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Dah bagi warning still want to play with fire and support drug cartel



Reuters) -The Venezuelan government on Monday rejected what it called a "ridiculous" U.S. plan to designate the "nonexistent" Cartel de los Soles a terrorist organization, ahead of Washington's expected designation later in the day.

United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio said earlier this month his country would designate the Cartel de los Soles a foreign terrorist organization (FTO) for its alleged role in importing illegal drugs into the U.S..

The Trump administration, which alleges the cartel is made up of high-ranking officials, has accused Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of leading the group, which he denies. The move comes as Maduro faces escalating pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump via a massive U.S. military buildup in the Caribbean. It has also raised some concern that the U.S. may seek to use the designation of the group to justify military action, though sanctions experts said the statute does not authorize such a move.

Maduro and his government have always denied any involvement in crime and have accused the U.S. of seeking regime change because of a desire to control Venezuela's vast oil reserves.

Venezuela categorically, firmly, and absolutely rejects the new and ridiculous fabrication by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of State, Marco Rubio, which designates the non-existent Cartel of the Suns as a terrorist organization,” said Venezuelan Foreign Minister Yvan Gil on his Telegram account.

The measure revives “an infamous and vile lie to justify an illegitimate and illegal intervention against Venezuela, under the classic U.S. regime-change format. This new maneuver will meet the same fate as previous and recurring aggressions against our country: failure,” it added.

Reuters reported on Saturday that the U.S. is poised to launch a new phase of Venezuela-related operations in the coming days, though the news organization was not able to establish the exact timing or scope of the new operations, nor whether Trump had made a final decision to act.

The U.S. Treasury Department in July designated Cartel de los Soles, a reference to the sun insignia worn by Venezuelan generals, as a "Specially Designated Global Terrorist," a move that froze any of its U.S. assets and generally barred Americans from dealing with it.

InSight Crime, a foundation that analyzes organized crime, said in August that it was an "oversimplification" to say Maduro heads the cartel, saying that it "is more accurately described as a system of corruption wherein military and political officials profit by working with drug traffickers."

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u forgot they cant even win against taliban
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:22 PM

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Is this the new "WMDs are in Iraq" moment for the world?
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 24 2025, 08:53 PM)
u forgot they cant even win against taliban
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:26 PM

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USA jealous Russia has Ukraine to train its drone technology and want Venezuela to provide the battle grounds to hone their own autonomous robot army?
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:22 PM)
Is this the new "WMDs are in Iraq" moment for the world?
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But this time there is clear evidence of mass destruction to people in USA

- drugs
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 24 2025, 09:35 PM)
But this time there is clear evidence of mass destruction to people in USA

- drugs
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And is there evidence that Venezuela is solely responsible for that?
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 24 2025, 09:35 PM)
But this time there is clear evidence of mass destruction to people in USA

- drugs
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Even then, US only has jurisdiction within its own territory according to "International rule of law" that it likes to quote so much. If those boats intrude into US territorial waters, then they can bomb it as much as they like.

The takeaway from this? There is no such thing as international rule of law. Its all might makes right. US say one.

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post Nov 24 2025, 09:50 PM

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Can’t control ownself on drugs go start a war. No sellers without buyers.
Should follow MY hang on drugs.
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US can start war on one country because of this reason..... Well won't be the last time...
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:38 PM)
And is there evidence that Venezuela is solely responsible for that?
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Before that it was Medellin cartel, back then during the golden years of pablo escobar, he control 80% of world market share of cocaine. US government is very unhappy about it. They urge the Colombian government to finalize the extradition law. But Escobar is kind enough to pay off Colombia's national debt + narcoterrorism (Avianca Flight 203 atrocity) the government decided to backdown.
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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Nov 24 2025, 09:51 PM)
Before that it was Medellin cartel, back then during the golden years of pablo escobar, he control 80% of world market share of cocaine. US government is very unhappy about it. They urge the Colombian government to finalize the extradition law. But Escobar is kind enough to pay off Colombia's national debt + narcoterrorism (Avianca Flight 203 atrocity) the government decided to backdown.
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And Colombia is still the largest producer and source of US cocaine. So why target Venezuela?
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Nov 24 2025, 08:53 PM)
u forgot they cant even win against taliban
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:22 PM)
Is this the new "WMDs are in Iraq" moment for the world?
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QUOTE(Penamer @ Nov 24 2025, 09:26 PM)
USA jealous Russia has Ukraine to train its drone technology and want Venezuela to provide the battle grounds to hone their own autonomous robot army?
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so u support cartel la. killer
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:38 PM)
And is there evidence that Venezuela is solely responsible for that?
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jgn persoal AMDK logic

always salah orang lain for their own people "forced" to take drugs
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US just some how took some reasons to justify their war to made them looks good
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Oil? Rare earth? Maybe Miss Venezuela?
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Time to combat cartel terrorists with bombs and missiles.
I stand with US 101% wub.gif
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Haha, everytime US is against something, some retards will die die against them even if it’s something terrible like drugs.

Typical US derangement syndrome.
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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Nov 24 2025, 09:51 PM)
Before that it was Medellin cartel, back then during the golden years of pablo escobar, he control 80% of world market share of cocaine. US government is very unhappy about it. They urge the Colombian government to finalize the extradition law. But Escobar is kind enough to pay off Colombia's national debt + narcoterrorism (Avianca Flight 203 atrocity) the government decided to backdown.
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This is the story from media…

We would never know the truth story!


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post Nov 25 2025, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:59 PM)
And Colombia is still the largest producer and source of US cocaine. So why target Venezuela?
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If the government official are involved then different story. Despite Colombia produce and supply, but their government is against it even during pablo's time, Lara Bonilla minister of justice at that time is murdered in a drive by, then presidential candidate Carlos Galan also killed during his speech because he is against Pablo. Pablo even attempt to kill Cesar Gaviria (29th president of Colombia) by bombing Avianca Flight 203, which he failed because the president was not on that plane.
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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Nov 24 2025, 09:51 PM)
Before that it was Medellin cartel, back then during the golden years of pablo escobar, he control 80% of world market share of cocaine. US government is very unhappy about it. They urge the Colombian government to finalize the extradition law. But Escobar is kind enough to pay off Colombia's national debt + narcoterrorism (Avianca Flight 203 atrocity) the government decided to backdown.
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I imagine Jho Low who is wanted in Malaysia, has made a deal with CCP and in return, CCP won't give him up to Malaysia. So how like that?

And we cannot do anything about it. Just like we can't do anything about MH17, and now we go be friendly with Russia. rolleyes.gif
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no nèed say Venezuela. here also got ppl support Venezuela terrorist dy. insulting country who try to eradicate the terrorist
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Nov 25 2025, 12:03 AM)
Haha, everytime US is against something, some retards will die die against them even if it’s something terrible like drugs.

Typical US derangement syndrome.
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Only fools believe US want to war venezuela to eradicate drug.

if US actually honest about war on drug, it should attack Mexico as overwhelming majority drug comes from there. everyone knows how ruthless mexico cartels are, and how much control they have on mexican society. Not Venezuela which is far far away to supply drug to US.

All that mumbo jumbo about constituting cartel as terrorist organization, then accusing moduro admin complicit with the said cartel so US can justify according its own law to use military action against moduro admin.


TL.DR, Trump just want to have license to invade Venezuela, toppling Moduro and install US puppet, a recent nobel peace prize winner, who openly invite trump TO INVADE VENEZUELA because Venezuela has so much oil and minerals to be raped by US corporations.

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US and Venezuela conflict already many years already

its largely due to regime change, coz V is a puppet state for C and R

as long as C and R got influence to V, V will present a threat to US


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US and Venezuela conflict already many years already

its largely due to regime change, coz V is a puppet state for C and R

as long as C and R got influence to V, V will present a threat to US


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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM)
Dah bagi warning still want to play with fire and support drug cartel
Reuters) -The Venezuelan government on Monday rejected what it called a "ridiculous" U.S. plan to designate the "nonexistent" Cartel de los Soles a terrorist organization, ahead of Washington's expected designation later in the day.

United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio said earlier this month his country would designate the Cartel de los Soles a foreign terrorist organization (FTO) for its alleged role in importing illegal drugs into the U.S..

The Trump administration, which alleges the cartel is made up of high-ranking officials, has accused Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of leading the group, which he denies. The move comes as Maduro faces escalating pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump via a massive U.S. military buildup in the Caribbean. It has also raised some concern that the U.S. may seek to use the designation of the group to justify military action, though sanctions experts said the statute does not authorize such a move.

Maduro and his government have always denied any involvement in crime and have accused the U.S. of seeking regime change because of a desire to control Venezuela's vast oil reserves.

Venezuela categorically, firmly, and absolutely rejects the new and ridiculous fabrication by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of State, Marco Rubio, which designates the non-existent Cartel of the Suns as a terrorist organization,” said Venezuelan Foreign Minister Yvan Gil on his Telegram account.

The measure revives “an infamous and vile lie to justify an illegitimate and illegal intervention against Venezuela, under the classic U.S. regime-change format. This new maneuver will meet the same fate as previous and recurring aggressions against our country: failure,” it added.

Reuters reported on Saturday that the U.S. is poised to launch a new phase of Venezuela-related operations in the coming days, though the news organization was not able to establish the exact timing or scope of the new operations, nor whether Trump had made a final decision to act.

The U.S. Treasury Department in July designated Cartel de los Soles, a reference to the sun insignia worn by Venezuelan generals, as a "Specially Designated Global Terrorist," a move that froze any of its U.S. assets and generally barred Americans from dealing with it.

InSight Crime, a foundation that analyzes organized crime, said in August that it was an "oversimplification" to say Maduro heads the cartel, saying that it "is more accurately described as a system of corruption wherein military and political officials profit by working with drug traffickers."
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For me this is bullahit from US. They should focus on Mexican drug cartels first.


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QUOTE(saiga @ Nov 25 2025, 06:29 AM)
For me this is bullahit from US. They should focus on Mexican drug cartels first.
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When Durtete fight drug cartels in Philippines, US said against human rights, abused power.....

But US can use military power to start war with a country with this reason..... Lol...
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Bullshit say want eradicate drugs but last time pardon drug kingpin https://www.npr.org/2025/05/31/nx-s1-541593...he-u-s-drug-war

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CCP will go "rescue" Venezuela?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 24 2025, 10:45 PM)
jgn persoal AMDK logic

always salah orang lain for their own people "forced" to take drugs
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so you pro drug cartels?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 25 2025, 07:53 AM)
so you pro drug cartels?
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so you suggest because of drugs you can invade another sovereign country, interfere with their internal issues and ignore international law?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 25 2025, 10:14 AM)
so you suggest because of drugs you can invade another sovereign country, interfere with their internal issues and ignore international law?
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im just asking if you support drug cartels
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US not concern about Myammar drugs ??... cause no oil ...LOL
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 25 2025, 10:25 AM)
US not concern about Myammar drugs ??... cause no oil ...LOL
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malaysia water got too much oil until china wanna claim using 9 dash lines..

bila malaysia want to build/buy more arms to counter ?
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obviously, South American cartels are finding their way into US cities coz thats where the market is.

So, cannot take action issit? stop pretending like these cartels are innocent lol

you know how ruthless they are and yet some bodo ktard here still plotek all in the name of anti west
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 25 2025, 10:23 AM)
im just asking if you support drug cartels
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and im asking back if you can invade someone else country and break international law under pretense of "war on drugs"
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sending Sicario(s) to deal with those cartels...
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Nov 25 2025, 10:28 AM)
malaysia water got too much oil until china wanna claim using 9 dash lines..

bila malaysia want to build/buy more arms to counter ?
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Yup...

End of the day, uncle Sam wants bolehland to fight ccp, but the oil belong to uncle Sam when bolehland turn into war torn area....
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Can liberate mexico too?just next door
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I rmbr Venezuela bcoz last time I 2" I read newspaper n I saw Ms Venezuela won Ms world or something


She was stunning

N I was lacking other fap marerials
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its the oil, man
first they screws your fiat
then you try to offset that fiant with their USD via white powder
now they come in to pop you
they dont do small small
they do big big to show your neiber whos the real jibai taikor
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QUOTE(Lada Putih @ Nov 25 2025, 04:23 PM)
its the oil, man
first they screws your fiat
then you try to offset that fiant with their USD via white powder
now they come in to pop you
they dont do small small
they do big big to show your neiber whos the real jibai taikor
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If they care so much about oil, just catch that cartel head and handover to US.

Did they do that? Nope.

Actually I wanted to thank US for taking efforts to eradicate scam center in Scambodia. If US no campur tangan, you think other nation will give a damn?
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As usual the US will just cook up some stories to invade. The US very cibai one.🤬
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 25 2025, 10:33 AM)
and im asking back if you can invade someone else country and break international law under pretense of "war on drugs"
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den what should be done? let the local government to handle and rein in the cartel? look how well that worked out for Mexico and other south american countries? The cartels control the government with drug money and guns? assassinate ppl they dont like?

You think drug problem only stop at their borders? when it spills to your country den how?
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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Nov 25 2025, 04:59 PM)
As usual the US will just cook up some stories to invade. The US very cibai one.🤬
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i know you need your stash of fetanyl, man...

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QUOTE(urnicksux2 @ Nov 25 2025, 04:20 PM)
Can liberate mexico too?just next door
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Ada banyak macam Venz? Baru US will invade ...
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 25 2025, 07:21 PM)
den what should be done? let the local government to handle and rein in the cartel? look how well that worked out for Mexico and other south american countries? The cartels control the government with drug money and guns? assassinate ppl they dont like?

You think drug problem only stop at their borders? when it spills to your country den how?
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by your logic, US should invade Colombia, Mexico, Ecuador, Brazil, Haiti so they can liberate them of "drug cartels"

hell, China since people say fentanyl comes from China too right?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 25 2025, 10:45 PM)
by your logic, US should invade Colombia, Mexico, Ecuador, Brazil, Haiti so they can liberate them of "drug cartels"

hell, China since people say fentanyl comes from China too right?
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Nobody is talking about China.

U nak plotek China till the americas?

So, how you propose to eradicate the cartels? If the local govt is corrupted by them?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 25 2025, 11:35 PM)
Nobody is talking about China.

U nak plotek China till the americas?

So, how you propose to eradicate the cartels? If the local govt is corrupted by them?
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but thats what you insinuate, no? since you want to "liberate" these countries from drug cartels by using foreign military force to invade a sovereign country

simple, leave it to their own internal business as it should be. and educate your own people of the dangers of drugs and enforcement via your own lands

other countries can do it, why cant USA? granted you cannot 100% eradicate but you can reduce until low %
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 25 2025, 11:58 PM)
but thats what you insinuate, no? since you want to "liberate" these countries from drug cartels by using foreign military force to invade a sovereign country

simple, leave it to their own internal business as it should be. and educate your own people of the dangers of drugs and enforcement via your own lands

other countries can do it, why cant USA? granted you cannot 100% eradicate but you can reduce until low %
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Why masuk China? Cartels dont operate there wat

That simple meh? These cartels u think are your normal kaki lima gengster? You read how much problems they cause for enforcement? And they are spilling into the US border.

These guys have all the money to run their own army and hold governmemts hostage to get what they want.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 26 2025, 12:04 AM)
Why masuk China? Cartels dont operate there wat

That simple meh?  These cartels u think are your normal kaki lima gengster? You read how much problems they cause for enforcement? And they are spilling into the US border.

These guys have all the money to run their own army and hold governmemts hostage to get what they want.
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bolded part, you deal with the issue on your OWN border. not theirs, unless the said country officially invite you in to tackle the drug issues

plus if your people are educated and dont do drugs, the drugs cant proliferate in first place

like i said, other countries can do it, why cant USA?
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i know you need your stash of fetanyl, man...

dont make it so obvious, you junkie
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 26 2025, 12:24 AM)
bolded part, you deal with the issue on your OWN border. not theirs, unless the said country officially invite you in to tackle the drug issues

plus if your people are educated and dont do drugs, the drugs cant proliferate in first place

like i said, other countries can do it, why cant USA?
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cartels go cross border and dont play by your rules. Den how? if only it were that simple, kan?

And that part about education, US is paying the price for their stupidity and the problem is no longer about prevention. Do you know how many Americans now are drug addicts ? In 2024, an estimated 28.2 million people aged 12 or older in the United States had a drug use disorder (DUD). This is approximately 9.8% of this population.

still think its an education problem? they've gone way past that. How much is this costing the USA annually and what are they going to do with cartel cross border operations that setting up shop in the USA itself? you carry out enforcement to take care of the snakes in home soil, but the head of the snake is still in Colombia, Mexico etc
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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Nov 26 2025, 06:37 AM)
My foot, don't you know the white love drugs that's who they are.
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the uneducated love drugs. How's malaysia's drug problem?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 26 2025, 08:34 AM)
cartels go cross border and dont play by your rules. Den how? if only it were that simple, kan? 

And that part about education,  US is paying the price for their stupidity and the problem is no longer about prevention. Do you know how many Americans now are drug addicts ? In 2024, an estimated 28.2 million people aged 12 or older in the United States had a drug use disorder (DUD). This is approximately 9.8% of this population.

still think its an education problem? they've gone way past that. How much is this costing the USA annually and what are they going to do with cartel cross border operations that setting up shop in the USA itself? you carry out enforcement  to take care of the snakes in home soil, but the head of the snake is still in Colombia, Mexico etc
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So the Great America, which outspends more than then next 7 countries on its military, which has 700++ military bases across the whole damned world, is the biggest navy in the world by tonnage.......can't secure their own 2000 mile border?? China's border is 10 times longer, and finding drug dealers there'd be like trying to find Unicorns there....maybe the US can copy the death penalty and learn from that instead of bombing another sovereign country?


American's drug problem is their own doing. There's too much profit in the drug trade for their corporations to ignore, fuck the common people.
They prescribe the highest amount or drugs per capita, spend the most in the world on prescription drugs (that includes Fentanyl), their own Sacker family which abused this system got a slap of the wrist.

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Before Fentanyl, it was cocaine, which they also blamed on others. Can't fix their own slutty wife, goes around berating all the men in the village for screwing her, that's America.

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 26 2025, 08:34 AM)
cartels go cross border and dont play by your rules. Den how? if only it were that simple, kan? 

And that part about education,  US is paying the price for their stupidity and the problem is no longer about prevention. Do you know how many Americans now are drug addicts ? In 2024, an estimated 28.2 million people aged 12 or older in the United States had a drug use disorder (DUD). This is approximately 9.8% of this population.

still think its an education problem? they've gone way past that. How much is this costing the USA annually and what are they going to do with cartel cross border operations that setting up shop in the USA itself? you carry out enforcement  to take care of the snakes in home soil, but the head of the snake is still in Colombia, Mexico etc
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still same shit, you deal with the issue on your OWN borders. USA talk big about respecting sovereignity and democracy but they never ask if the people of Venezuela wanted their help or their own people supported invading another country. not to mention the overuse of the term "international rules based order" but sendiri broke it all the time

always has been education problem, ask yourself why only USA have such big drug problem? entirety of it comes from their lax of security and dwindling education over the years. i can assure you the US itself is a drug cartel going how prevalent this has been ongoing, it takes two to tango as usual

which is why i reiterated, other countries have dealt with drug issues on their own borders without invading other "drug cartel" countries and successfully reduce their influence. so why cant USA?

FYI, lets use Russia post USSR breakup as example. in 90s due to the mess of dissolution, the country went down the drain and many people resorted to drugs and alcoholism to the point Russia is considered a shithole. by the 2000s after Putin was elected and they impose heavy hand measures on war against drugs IN THEIR OWN country. it took them a solid decade to improve the situation via education and heavy enforcement. one of the biggest smuggler of drugs was via Afghanistan which USA controlled at that time lmao, you dont see Russia going to invade Afghanistan to tackle their "drug cartels", no?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 26 2025, 10:25 AM)
still same shit, you deal with the issue on your OWN borders. USA talk big about respecting sovereignity and democracy but they never ask if the people of Venezuela wanted their help or their own people supported invading another country. not to mention the overuse of the term "international rules based order" but sendiri broke it all the time

always has been education problem, ask yourself why only USA have such big drug problem? entirety of it comes from their lax of security and dwindling education over the years. i can assure you the US itself is a drug cartel going how prevalent this has been ongoing, it takes two to tango as usual

which is why i reiterated, other countries have dealt with drug issues on their own borders without invading other "drug cartel" countries and successfully reduce their influence. so why cant USA?

FYI, lets use Russia post USSR breakup as example. in 90s due to the mess of dissolution, the country went down the drain and many people resorted to drugs and alcoholism to the point Russia is considered a shithole. by the 2000s after Putin was elected and they impose heavy hand measures on war against drugs IN THEIR OWN country. it took them a solid decade to improve the situation via education and heavy enforcement. one of the biggest smuggler of drugs was via Afghanistan which USA controlled at that time lmao, you dont see Russia going to invade Afghanistan to tackle their "drug cartels", no?
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Afghanistan's drug problem was also the doing of the Americans, by way of the CIA. The moment those white bastards left, Afghanistan destroyed all the poppy fields and started growing food instead.

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Hmmm, I wonder what happened in 2021 that caused Opium production to drop from 2022 onwards????
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Oh yeah, that's when the Taliban kicked the Cartel Internazionale Americas (CIA) out!
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Its not only lack of education and security, the Americans actually glorify drug taking and drug smuggling. Their teen movies always show how cool it is to smoke weed and get high, how badass it is for a "lowly" Chemistry teacher that grows big enough to out produce the Cartel. Imagine...teaching Chemistry is degrading, using it to make the purest Meth is glorified.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Nov 26 2025, 11:09 AM)
Afghanistan's drug problem was also the doing of the Americans, by way of the CIA. The moment those white bastards left, Afghanistan destroyed all the poppy fields and started growing food instead.

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Hmmm, I wonder what happened in 2021 that caused Opium production to drop from 2022 onwards????
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Oh yeah, that's when the Taliban kicked the Cartel Internazionale Americas (CIA) out!
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Its not only lack of education and security, the Americans actually glorify drug taking and drug smuggling. Their teen movies always show how cool it is to smoke weed and get high, how badass it is for a "lowly" Chemistry teacher that grows big enough to out produce the Cartel. Imagine...teaching Chemistry is degrading, using it to make the purest Meth is glorified.

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ultimately they sendiri dig their own grave then blame people for it, typical USA as usual

meanwhile other countries out there actually have to deal with real shit like this their own way to ensure their country dont go down the drain
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 09:59 PM)
And Colombia is still the largest producer and source of US cocaine. So why target Venezuela?
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One at a time lah, why so impatient?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 26 2025, 11:11 AM)
ultimately they sendiri dig their own grave then blame people for it, typical USA as usual

meanwhile other countries out there actually have to deal with real shit like this their own way to ensure their country dont go down the drain
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They are evil incarnate.

Its not even that they're just lazy to enforce their own laws to fix their own problems....it is that they are purposely using this to further their global hegemonic ambitions while killing innocent people. How else are they gonna use their stockpiled weapons which their Military Industrial Complex keeps churning out?
It's the only kind of manufacturing that's still done on American soil. They can't fucking build anything else for a profit....not EVs, not Robots, not computers, phones, MRI machines, cranes, not ships (they'll still make military ones, just not for civilian use cos what's the use in that??).

By bombing Venezuelans, they can steal oil while also disposing off their stock of expiring munitions. Later can sign more Billion dollar contracts with Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman etc...
Meanwhile their drug companies keep making profits while their populations become zombies.
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QUOTE(johnnyg @ Nov 24 2025, 09:50 PM)
Can’t control ownself on drugs go start a war. No sellers without buyers.
Should follow MY hang on drugs.
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cannot maybe trump family members also a lot druggie. hahaha
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Trump orders CIA to attack Venezuela: US military kills innocent people in war based on lies


The REAL reason why Trump is attacking Latin America

Venezuela - News - Debunk/Refute - 2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...pRF-aJb5ZgSOqkN

Venezuela-Murica - News - 2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...zgM_41izEuNDoV6

Murica - Drug - Debunk/Refute Fake News
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...h2iAiEr39AfOMAH

Western Imperialism - Murica/USA/Anglo-Zio Empire - 1
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Al-Houthi: US forces continue to steal Syrian oil

https://avapress.com/en/news/302702/al-hout...teal-syrian-oil

Venezuela is the next target.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Nov 25 2025, 10:23 AM)
im just asking if you support drug cartels
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bro you really believe usa so righteous that they going into venezuela to fight drugs? biggrin.gif why they didnt fix own home ground or nearby mexico/colombia first
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Lol, you still believe America bs?

They just want oil and gas in Venezuela soil, how stupid can you all be?



QUOTE(smsid @ Feb 25 2025, 10:57 PM)
Year 1950 to 2000, the villains are communist in Asia
Year 2000 to 2025, the villains are terrorist in the Middle East
Year 2025 onwards, back to Asia again?
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Year 1950 to 2000, the villains are communist in Asia
Year 2000 to 2025, the villains are terrorist in the Middle East
Year 2025 onwards, the villains are drug cartels in South America and Chyna!
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the Nobel Peace Prize committee gifted Maduro's enemy the Nobel Prize
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Nov 28 2025, 09:06 AM)
the Nobel Peace Prize committee gifted Maduro's enemy the Nobel Prize
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They all work together hand in hand.

Should change Nobel Peace Prize to Puppet War Awards.
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US China New Cold War: Why US is Attacking Venezuela | Ben Norton with Carl Zha
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QUOTE(smsid @ Nov 28 2025, 09:06 AM)
Year 1950 to 2000, the villains are communist in Asia
Year 2000 to 2025, the villains are terrorist in the Middle East
Year 2025 onwards, the villains are drug cartels in South America and Chyna!
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Always right, never wrong. American exceptionalism.


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...PvBQLjCdLuSslvD

Look for "Hakim" vids to learn how the western liberal imperialists still colonizing the Global South and coloured ppl.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...Emd3h9CHPWVIyNX
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5374670

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 AM)
bro you really believe usa so righteous that they going into venezuela to fight drugs? biggrin.gif why they didnt fix own home ground or nearby mexico/colombia first
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TL;DW: Capitalists/bourgeois' interests. Plutocracy. Lobbying. Profit first. Public manipulation.

Pharmaceutical corporations caused US opioid crisis, not China or Mexico

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...h2iAiEr39AfOMAH

pornoman2128 You got that right.

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QUOTE(smsid @ Nov 28 2025, 09:14 AM)
They all work together hand in hand.

Should change Nobel Peace Prize to Puppet War Awards.
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Nobel Peace Prize winner supports Israel's genocide & Trump's war on Venezuela






Imagine a far-right wing, millionaire person in the parliament said he wants to sell PETRONAS to Murica.

Trump-backed Venezuelan coup leader promises to give oil to US corporations

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...kSaWp7N_Rt8D8a6

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QUOTE(Meis @ Dec 2 2025, 07:08 PM)
Nobel Peace Prize winner supports Israel's genocide & Trump's war on Venezuela

Imagine a far-right wing, millionaire person in the parliament says he wants to sell PETRONAS to Murica.

Trump-backed Venezuelan coup leader promises to give oil to US corporations

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...kSaWp7N_Rt8D8a6
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It is even worse, go to 14:40 timestamp:


They plan to make contracts for the next 100 years, like how we have lopsided contracts for our water agreement.

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Her political party, Vente Venezuela, signed cooperation agreements with Netanyahu’s Likud Party, pledging to strengthen relations between the peoples of Israel and Venezuela.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/10/...-corina-machado

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Venezuelan dont have their petronas?
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The "Unthinkable" Deal The US Just Offered China & Venezuela

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Navy worldwide should blast pirates and criminals in boats out of the water

no need to pick up survivors
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^ didn't know fishermen are criminals

OK
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QUOTE(Meis @ Dec 4 2025, 08:36 PM)
^ didn't know fishermen are criminals

OK
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Many have 2 3 4 part time job
Using fishing as cover
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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2025, 02:18 PM)
so u support cartel la. killer
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Apa sarahan cartel. Got touch your interest ker?

Everyone got their own sense of limit and acceptable side of certain matters la.

Same as how I always can feel good MILFING people's wife, but people cannot geram coz I didnt even mishandled your wife as you do.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Dec 4 2025, 08:40 PM)
Apa sarahan cartel. Got touch your interest ker?

Everyone got their own sense of limit and acceptable side of certain matters la.

Same as how I always can feel good MILFING people's wife, but people cannot geram coz I didnt even mishandled your wife as you do.
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hope u vacay there or somewhere then be at the wrong place at the wrong time then some cartel anywhere tot u spy or enemy steal their business then cartel do what they do.

apa salah simply take innocent ppl life apa salah u naive ? baru come out from gua or awake from coma? no see news innocent ppl also kena dismembered? apa salah cartel tak salah u je yg salah


got news us tourist drive into wrong place kena chase cartel. movie scout location take pic for movie kena dispose by cartel. non related citizen there also kena kidnapped ransom and dispose. many more non related ppl also kena cartel. summore 2 dutch tourist kris kremers and lisanne froon go panama found only become bones likely at the wrong place and cartel dipose them. not related n concern with cartel also kena

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...0dwJ4xQxKjs-tkh


u think u can walk there freely visit? lol

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Those boats can't reach the states without refuel a lot of times, so wheres the logic?
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QUOTE(supermoto @ Dec 4 2025, 01:06 PM)
hope u vacay there or somewhere then be at the wrong place at the wrong time then some cartel anywhere tot u spy or enemy steal their business then cartel do what they do.

apa salah simply take innocent ppl life apa salah u naive ? baru come out from gua or awake from coma? no see news innocent ppl also kena dismembered?  apa salah cartel tak salah u je yg salah
got news us tourist drive into wrong place kena chase cartel. movie scout location take pic for movie kena dispose by cartel.  non related citizen there also kena kidnapped ransom and dispose. many more non related ppl also kena cartel.  summore 2 dutch tourist kris kremers and lisanne froon go panama found only become bones likely at the wrong place and cartel dipose them.  not related n concern with cartel also kena

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...0dwJ4xQxKjs-tkh
u think u can walk there freely visit? lol
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Dude I work in tourism industry too.

One fact remains, kalau sohai, you got ulu kelang also kena dismembered. Kalau no sohai, you got Panama or Swaziland also happy bombibi.


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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Dec 4 2025, 10:59 PM)
Dude I work in tourism industry too.

One fact remains, kalau sohai, you got ulu kelang also kena dismembered. Kalau no sohai, you got Panama or Swaziland also happy bombibi.
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brain rot conversation

work in tourism but act sohai no wonder u sohai lo brain rot conversation bombibiwtf?

go ulu kelang makan kena dismembered apa lancau u ckp?

go south America do nothing also will kena by cartel. u go la since u support cartel go cartel area dont go safe space. since u tak kisah cartel no touch ur interest

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Dec 4 2025, 03:00 PM)
brain rot conversation

work in tourism but act sohai no wonder u sohai lo brain rot conversation bombibiwtf?

go ulu kelang makan kena dismembered apa lancau u ckp?

go south America do nothing also will kena by cartel. u go la since u support cartel go cartel area dont go safe space. since u tak kisah cartel no touch ur interest
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Bro, kalau bodoh then shut that bodoh up and dun bring up and causes trouble.

If conversation brainrot then it means you're the one stupid fak cannot process meaning behind words la.

Just check how many sohem kena kantoi scam in Thailand just because suka to drink and cheong, etc lah.

Cartel cartel, if you dun isap high get sohem you'll avoid these problem. Try go holiday Bharat wear like Boa Hancock, kena grape until longgar also havent see morning.

BODOH PUNYA HOLANG. PROCESSOR KAPUT kah lu ?

Or you're some Gen 2000 after deswai cannot process simple meaning behind typical malaysian rojak language, must ngam ngam fit engelis or bahasa only paham?

BODOH SIAL!!!!
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Also at the same time, quote stuff like cartel hentam you here there and who kena kantoi here there as proof of something pulak.

Whaat is this? SERIOUS kopitiam where you debate cartel jahat you baek?

Dun sohai la, your typical hate on cartel coz they seems baddie is your typical bias. London here alone from brixton to Camden to Tower Ham7lets also danger zone when night comes, you think abit la, if sohai purposely go there melanyun and kantoi, its call accident and not cari pasal?

Kalau is a tourist, go tour spot, not go to danger zone. Kalau tau cambodia dangerous, dun la go there find wife and piap, and avoid kena scampee.

This is why I always say I kenot live with another Malaysian. Bodoh tahap gaban but tatau sendiri what level or lanyun sohemness.

Go quote more la, bring whole kopitiam to your hate level towards cartel.

Not your kesah, mild up abit that biasness!
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Good, please take out all the cartels.

Bomb them all if necessary since the cartels started this war by engaging chemical warfare.
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CCP will go "rescue" Venezuela?
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...pRF-aJb5ZgSOqkN

Venezuela-Murica - News - 2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...zgM_41izEuNDoV6

Murica - Drug - Debunk/Refute Fake News
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...h2iAiEr39AfOMAH

Western Imperialism - Murica/USA/Anglo-Zio Empire - 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNn...CpzkAfShOn2lqdY

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Meis
post Dec 19 2025, 08:47 PM

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Trump admitted the truth: he wants to take Venezuela's oil

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