Today i got news that a mid 40s lady in my company got laid off. For whatever reason, im not so sure, i just heard she is not in good terms with HR or some high female executive that is being backed by boss.

She has been in company for 20+ years, first company since diploma until now. She seldom took MC and sometimes got her leave forfeited. She has been here since the company was just established till the size it is now

She never thought this is how she will end her career in the company. Boss never show sympathy or compassion towards her as old staff.

Guys, do u think loyalty is important to a company? Or boss simply doesnt care at all?

Do u think ur company value loyalty?

First!

And the answer is no. Company only cares about how useful you are.

This post has been edited by hotdayum: Nov 19 2025, 10:00 AM

1st!!!

Knn hav to settle with 2nd

This post has been edited by hiyyl: Nov 19 2025, 09:59 AM

1st page

Ukeke thread no more sexism post? Im out of here

I loyal to boss if she is milf

work for money

sadly, NO atleast from my POV
yes u got some certain shares, gold coins, certs for being long serving staffs etc.. but yearly increaments are low compared to jumpers unless u really can climb up their ranks. but what are the chances right?

some companies-not-gonna-mention are more worried and ever ready to please their union staffs while neglecting their own junior mgmt staffs. so understand la all the budget allocation goes where

ive seen cases where company staffs with outstanding rating gets lower increament vs union staff with fixed yearly increament as per their contract with strong rating

Lel I had old staff that die die don't want to follow ISO when company implement it. Reason, last time no ISO also ok what. So, have to fire after repeated NC and memo.

Stay long time doesn't mean good employee

quick answer: NO

long answer: your boss will think you stupid

In contrast she is a good employee and the replacement lady actually did way worse.

It's just office politics that laid her off

No one is indispensable.

NO.

Does not look like her boss like her so any loyalty would be useless.

work hard so ur boss can get obscenely rich

Sorry to say, no such thing as loyalty to company anymore. Loyalty only to yourself.

You are paid for service and expertise, that is all to it.

No use to come early and go back late. No use dun take MC and work yourself to the bone.

End of the day u need to remember HR works for management and management only see everyone below them as a resource number in a spreadsheet.

Have worked long enough to know that all those HR surveys and feedback sessions are all bull crap. Nothing but traps so better just no comment or neutral comment and work for money.

only if the company reward u well.

so far my company is paying my salary higher than any similar position job u can find in malaysia. no point i downgrade myself to jump to another job.

old boss maybe yes , new gen take over no .

they only care monehhhh

A big NO

I stayed in a company for 14 years and when I leave the company, my salary jumped 50%. After jumping several times, my salary today is probably 5 times of what I earn if I stayed in the same company

5 times? U 50k celery ah, too exaggerate

new lady let boss zhut zhut is it?

lu mati hari ini, semalam keluar advert hire new saff

Efficiency = Cake
Loyalty = Icing

People love to eat cake with icing. But if no icing, makan cake saja pun ok jugak. Tapi cake yang tak ada cake, hanya ada icing saja, no one would want to eat it, ppl throw it away.

Age 40 in companies is the right target to be laid off coz already ripe and need to pluck out from organizations.

Dont offer vsp meh? 20 years working compensations is kinda worth it

I think u guess right. One of our ex colleague mentioned he somehow say boss and new lady piap in nearby hotel. Both are already married some more. I do not know how true. Maybe u guessed right.

Sei sohai hamkaling datang lagi

only sohai loyal to company, dun be a dog
once u leave the company, they will find someone to replace you.
it's a business transaction

20 years in company - so act great even new hire higher position surely tunjuk muka because 20 years. i know these kinda ppl many in my organization . Nowdays they dont care they will kick off only if langsi.

no. they replace you like how you replace your toothbrush.

Starting 2k
after jumping few times with average 3years stay with latest salary 10k
thats 5times

My BIL can be said cream of the crop
after dip 1st celery 1.8k
Now C exec celery 40k++ (If I not mistaken current is his 8th company jump)
so...40k/1.8k berapa???

At the end of the day, the company only see employee as number/resources.

When I left after 14 years, my salary is really pathetic

This is a people problem not a company problem. If you know your management is like that which you can definitely figure out if you are 20 years in the company, then you should know your boss doesnt value your loyalty.

What the f? What field and cert ur bil have? 40k?? He zhut the boss?

Big NO
Ayam work more than 10 years
Looking to climb to COO
But sohai HQ hired a new GM blocking way
Kekwa

Based on what I’ve observed in my company, the answer is no. A company will appreciate you only as long as you benefit them, and they will always prioritize cost over loyalty.

Specialist in niche field
He is just in correct time and the world hunger his skills
His current boss like him coz he managed to bring in alot of sales

Technically what I look is his boss zhut him

>GTFO la bodo ukeke topkek
Nearlee

Regardless whether its 40K, 50K or 70K, at the end of the day u r just a number...

might as well be honest here regardless of what HR folks spin

u work for company for pay and benefits

best if you just think of it that way.

U working for cinapek company? No need feel indebted to such company. Can’t grow or get training to improve skills, better jump ship when get better offer

millionaire ke...
billionaire ke..
they don't tell you the numbers
that is the difference between poorfag and superrich

buying few mills properties or tanah kubur sound norm to them

Even my BIL offered me a loan just to book a spot in an exclusive burial park. I rejected coz I want to break my kids burden with this ancestral burial practise

Loyalty is a made-up word to soothe the employee to stay.

Money talks. Just follow the money. No such thing as loyal to a company.

If company want loyalty, tell them, get a chihuahua. A doggo can be very loyal.

Nope, those "We all family here" are all BS just for sugar coat. You resigned today, after few days they found your replacement.

Macam N company je.

For few people who got very good boss it can be worthwhile, but as someone who got burnt hard, unker is full of ragrets didn't jump ship earlier. For the most people they will be better off jumping ship for guarantee raise.

The only people who keep push loyalty concept are the taukeys who own the business. Got quite a few of these in /k. They think foreign workers are more loyal than local doing the deadend job so they give a bit increment think they are so generous, but don't realize is because they holding them hostage with visa.

Why so free ahh you. Thought you going to AUS

Smart move...

Yr kids will appreciate it...

I oso going for cremation....

If only job candidates can be so candid & honest about salary like /k/ to HR & interviewers during job interviews lmao
"Why do you want to work here?" - because for higher pay
"Why did you leave your previous job?" - because the pay sucks

Inb4 HR dulan candidates who talk about $$$ during interview

No never

But people willing for a sense of familiarity

Now applying job

yes. loyalty is good. I asked my boss and he said this.

This post has been edited by BL98: Nov 19 2025, 02:56 PM

company doesnt give a shit about you..

dont be loyal. loyal means nothing..

if i can turn back time, i would leave my current company long ago.. its a shame that i am deep rooted into this company that makes me feel scared about jump ship...

No. My last company, i even belanja them by coming to work while on leave for free whilst serving my last 2 months.

Didnt get nothing

This post has been edited by h4r8_kIlLeR: Nov 19 2025, 05:17 PM

Bos thanks you gais for being loyal. 👍🏾

Anyway theres pro and cons to both situation lar.

Theres no perfect solution.

Hell no.

I've seen what my previous company had done towards staffs that working long term in the company.

Two staffs that I've known doing their job well without any issues.

Suddenly one day they have disagreement over certain job tasks with higher management, they are being targeted and management making their life complicated.

Company transferred them to other branch that located far from their home. They end up resigned and found better job at other company.

Job loyalty will pay off if you follow whatever shit that company asked you to do.

A lot of companies out there just want a YES MAN instead of making their employees thinks outside box and doing something new.

This post has been edited by xpole: Nov 19 2025, 05:32 PM

I don't think we can generalize in that manner, just bcoz, each company culturally different. From my experience, company culture is important. I have moved so many companies in the past, and coming my current workplace, mula mula ingat, cuma singgah 3 tahun aje, lepas tu sure jump!

But ended up been here for such a long time, the culture was good, good welfare, staffs are friendly, great benefits, more like a family within the department. Salary was not great, but it was very conducive to work.

Some time depends what we want and what the company can offer, its more like a marriage, both party need to have that chemistry click

Nope

IF u are useful or got value to the company then yes.

Else no.

Nobody is indispensable

Cold hard truth

So... loyalty doesn't pay

Loyal or not, make sure u r always marketable so that u always have options.

everyone for himself..just don't be too loyal and dramatic/emotional at the same time

buat company sendiri lah

Company does not value loyalty, company promotes it cause every year your increment merely 5% but hire new person, the rate increases 10-20% … so they hope you do not leave but they dont value you …

Only have 1 lifetime to try. Mine 11 years until company went down. Now start to hop hop

once ur capability > boss, but u dont get appreciated/recognised, or worse, buttlickers and slanderers get undue credits, u know its time to move on

I dont wanna say its pride, be mindful of arrogance and pride, but u need to know your own value, esp if u are severely underpaid

Depends on ur job and skill

If u wash toilet admin, then no diff

If u r top tier programmer, coder... then ok

this

back in my old company, guy refuse to adapt to new procedure, new method, new SOP, later kena release by company

easier for you to say since you are the CEO of Yulek Pembaiki Paip Sdn Bhd

been with same Co for 22 yrs..so far really rewarding hehe

Yup. You're just trading your time and energy for money

But then again, cannot say this directly to the boss

Must say nice flowery words. Must say I wanna die for the company!!!!

The lesson of the story. If you are useless, don’t be royal. Company exists for making money. If you did not perform, no one can save you.

My previous company got 1 staff really useless but never get fired. He is the thick skin type, kena scold like a dog still smile only.

The CEO told me he keep him there because he is nice to diu. So loyalty means you happy and willing to kena diu by boss. Not tenure of work.

loyal to whoever give better money

loyal if no use no point
company priority is to make money

Tsk tsk tsk suruh u jaga RT u main /k. Potong gaji

There is starting and also ending. Nothing is last forever and everyday is the benigging.

no. fucking quit. hate my work and my life now haha.

no life also pay like getting fucked in the ass.

weekends or overtime also no pay, just expected to do it and stfu.

shit ass life, meanwhile my european firends do barely any work, WFH 99% of the time, and drink and party daily while making 200x my salary wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Which country, europe wage quite low except swiss

Even loyalty to your wife didn't pay off. What makes you think company do?

No, because you are expendable

Loyalty is just fantasy, not reality

already tembak until i tear my purple spender and skin turn green...
apa lagi babi mau?

Ayam mau pakai PAUT so your balls don't get fried tapi u tamau

i stay coz miss my awek coliq. if not already resign long ago

nope. you just know if the place is suitable for you or not by the first month and if it is worth your time and expect nothing else.

The same goes for me. Cause can see amoi koliq and milf superior almost every weekdays. Sometimes can see in between buttons. If not, i already go Australia to work

u ingat lu Bani prime?

everything pao pao pao.....

Only the Queen's law prevails here

Norway and UK.

Whatever it is, convert still high, making me jealous only.

Still so much easier for them to buy things