In a way, I do agree that it would help the national team. But are English players really that weak? Weaker than the foreigners? What about players like Wayne Rooney, John Terry, Steven Gerrard and Micah Richards?

Moreover, by limiting foreigners, the already inflated price tag of British based players will eventually increase more, imagine paying 17 million pounds on Darren Bent, 5 million pounds on Michael Chopra, 5 million pounds on David Nugent, will a team eventually be forced to fork out 20 million pounds on a certain Stewart Downing when you can get Ricardo Quaresma for a lesser price tag? Barcelona paid 15 million pounds for Thierry Henry who is arguably the best striker in the world, but Darren Bent who hardly play for England is worth 17 million pounds? Not to forget, Charlton were relegated.

Instead of whinging about the number of foreigners in the league, why can't the players work harder to get into the first team?

True. They can't really put all the blames on "too many foreigners in the league" regarding the national team's performance. Let's use England for example. Their recent starting lineup:



All their starting 11 are the key/core players for their respective clubs and playing week in week out even with foreign players in their respective clubs. Yet they failed to perform up to their usual standard when playing for their country.

It also depends on the young English players whether they are good enough to break into the first team & whether they are given the chance to do so, if they indeed are good enough. If they are not good enough then even without foreign imports, they still not going to make it.

Plus playing alongside players like C.Ronaldo/Kaka/Drogba/etc will only improve their skills/game play/etc.

This post has been edited by alien2003: Nov 15 2007, 05:07 PM

Posted this a few days back.

Its extremely short sighted for anyone to blame the foreigners for the lack of achievement by England team. The England team probably has one of the most gifted players. The trouble England and their coach suffer is how to pool together these bunch of talented players to winning matches. Its not easy having 11 egoistic players on the pitch, each thinking they are the best. The fact is, these players are core players in their respective team, you can't deny that coz if you look at the team, all of the players are perhaps the key players out there.

Also, you can't blame the foreigners when the youth acedemies are not strong enough to produce top class players. Also, by limiting the number of foreigners, its only gonna reduce the standard of the EPL.

I think its a much bigger problem than limiting the foreigners.

Which is why I thought why the English players aren't as skillful or talented as players from Spain and Italy when I first watched football in the mid 90s. Most of them do not care about flair football, it's all about tackles, quick passing and counter attacking football.

One of the few players that attracted me attention then was Gianfranco Zola...missed him though. By the way, Mark Hughes did say that foreigners motivate the local lads with their way of working and their football mentality. Are foreigners that bad by the way?

Let's put it this way, back in the 90's and 80's when the amount of foreign players in the English league was far less than what it was now, the 3 lions didn't exactly set the world on fire with their performance either. In fact i for one think the influx of foreign player and managers changed the technical aspects of the English style of play and game for the better.

But then again, the trend set forth by the Gunners in playing a team without any homegrown British Isle or English players is not a good thing as well in the long term. Like most have said, it a much deeper problem than just foreign imports.

lol....well , seriously i really dont understand why Darren Bent cost 17 million . i was surprise by the amount when i saw it on the net. Maybe because he still young and henry is old ?

Gerrard joins foreign quota calls



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7094812.stm

English players will always be overpriced.
You can only wonder why on the big stage, the English players fail to repeat their match winning performances which they do so often for their respective clubs. The inflow of foreign talents into the local league is not to be blamed. They lighted up the football in the country.
Are the players to be put on the sacrifice altar for mediocre performances in an England shirt? Or is the manager responsible for lacklustre outings on the international stage? I dunno

Question. Why do we care about England's national team?

Didn't you guys heard about the tale about England?

"English players are good in their respective clubs but suck when they put all of them together."

No offense there as I'm England supporter as well, but I don't think foreigner would make such an impact if the Englishmen would hard as hard as foreigner did.

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Added on November 15, 2007, 6:41 pmBecause most of the Malaysian watch EPL.

This post has been edited by Belphegor: Nov 15 2007, 06:41 PM

lets be frank..
why england is not performing?
why the english players are over priced?
why? why? why??
the answer is simple, its because of US.
yes, it is because of us.

we watch english league, the media is OVER highlighting the english players and the english clubs.

the richest club and famous club in tbe world would be Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and AC Milan.

4 of the 7 clubs are english clubs.

we walk in the pasar malam, or any shop, the are more jerseys of english clubs than others.

the media is the real reason for the lack in english football...

This is because the money there are spending not only in buying players, but to make sure that WE watch their league.

We are those who put them high up in the sky.

english players, besides playing football, they are also very busy doing commercial ads, and not forgetting their clubbing and night life habit.

Why are we just talking about england doing badly?

Other big countries are also and have failed to reach major tournaments.

but the reason the media, we, and everyone is talking about england is because thats what is shown to us, ENGLISH LEAGUE.

Spanish league, German League, French League dont have much coverage as the english league.

English players are spoon feeded by their clubs, and country and THE MEDIA.

until all those people dont stop spoon feeding them, no one can help to overcome english football..

by limiting the foreign players, wont improve the england team, but it will just reduce the excitement in the english league...

Need someone to blame so better shield up their own and put the blame on to the foreign player.

its bad to have quotas. competition make things better.
my opinion is that we have an example of quotas ruining everything, malaysia.

I realized England had struggle since WC2002. Beckham's free kick against Greece brought them to WC02. I don't think it would be foreigner's problem. Is their own problem.

is this thread gona be a place where we can find england's weakness spot? then if what i say is true, we go on. i oso want to know

Got to agree, and I think the media over there is relentless when things gone slightly wrong. They first build up unrealistic hope when England play well, shower them with praises and hail them as world beaters.

That puts pressure on the players and manager not only to perform each time but also to satisfy these unforgiving bunch...and when they fail...we all know it, the manager's head will be first on the chopping blocks.

Michael Owen have said recently that managing England is 'impossible', and that's not far from the truth.

That's one of the reason why England are in a mess, NOT because of foreign players in the league. The England FA need a long and hard look at themselves, how they develop young talents, their building program, coach selections etc. I think the root of the problems are in there.

This post has been edited by king_z: Nov 15 2007, 08:26 PM

To be honest, I do not give a shite about England. I am just fed up with all the whingings about the quota of the England players in a team. When Stevie G came out with that, that's the last straw. I may be a Liverpool fan, but there are times where I find it hard to agree with our captain. Don't ask me why.

Why can't they compare themselves to leagues such as Italy and Spain? Italy has more world class foreigners and so does Spain, where players like Joaquin, David Villa, Torres, Gattuso, Materrazi....etc exists, they don't come from top clubs at first, but they worked hard and trained hard.

Ever wonder why are there so many flamboyant players from other countries whereas there are only a handful born in England? Even Man Utd had to look for Portugal talents to inject more flair into their squad.

Moreover, when Fabregas, at a tender age of only 17 can break into the first team, I don't understand why can't others? It's no longer about the training facilities or the quality of the academies, it's more about the attitude of the players then.

well said, england ppl tend to overate their players
darren bent score a goal or two and he is the next henry
a little bit of success and they think they are maradona and pele

anyway england are on the eve of missing for euro so gotta bring up something to blame to save their face mah

malaysia also stop imports a few years back but dint see we improve anywhere pun

Agree.