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Duke Red
post Nov 26 2007, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 26 2007, 07:45 PM)
I don't know if you guys remembered.. Dennis Bergkamp's fake move go through Newcastle defender, and tricks Shay Given by giving him false information, scores the beautiful goal.. tongue.gif

Dennis Bergkamp's fake move goal
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Think it was against Dabizas.
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post Nov 26 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jonno @ Nov 25 2007, 10:00 PM)
Agreed, people who condone that needs to have their head checked. Football is a sport / entertainment (depends on how you look at it), but when you go aorund breaking other's leg and end their career, then that is somehting else.
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Even Haaland himself said that Keane's tackle didn't end his career as it was the leg that Keane didn't bang up that caused the retirement.
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post Nov 29 2007, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 26 2007, 08:24 PM)
Think it was against Dabizas.
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Bergkamp the legend.

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Massimo Taibi, the goals he leaked against Soton and Chelski. 2 games 8 goals sad.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Nov 26 2007, 08:41 PM)
Even Haaland himself said that Keane's tackle didn't end his career as it was the leg that Keane didn't bang up that caused the retirement.
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The point is, Keane admitted he intended to hurt him. If it's outside football field it is considered as attempting to cause grievous bodily harm.
Eg. you still see ppl being jailed for attempting murder even though no murder actually took place.
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Nov 26 2007, 08:41 PM)
Even Haaland himself said that Keane's tackle didn't end his career as it was the leg that Keane didn't bang up that caused the retirement.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Nov 29 2007, 02:43 PM)
The point is, Keane admitted he intended to hurt him. If it's outside football field it is considered as attempting to cause grievous bodily harm.
Eg. you still see ppl being jailed for attempting murder even though no murder actually took place.
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Vreis sums it up nicely for me there. Keane is a fantastic footballer, don't get me wrong, without him in the side, it's hard to imagine Man U will win that many titles. At times his inspiration and never say die attitude is second to none. I do respect the bloke as a footballer, but some of the things he did was not the best memory of him as a player, like THAT tackle.

Not riling anyone, but Keane was an average player that got signed by the legendary Brian Clough from a non league side in Ireland, he was hoping just to make a few reserve games here and there, until Cloughie turned him into a great player and Fergie paid a British record of 3.2M (how times has changed whistling.gif ) for him. I guess for Keane, his definitive moment in his career was being punched by Cloughie in the face. that changed him as a player and made him the hardman he was.
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post Dec 9 2007, 09:42 PM

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My definitive moment in football? When Paolo Di Canio refused to score when he is in open goal position. The keeper suddenly pulled a hamstring. Instead of scoring, he catched the boll.

Nowdays, its hard to see this kind of sportmanship.
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bellamy crucial goal while he with newcastle iagainst feyenoord..the last minute goals and newcastle thru to next round after that....


Added on December 10, 2007, 8:03 am
QUOTE(syahrulz @ Nov 15 2007, 08:27 PM)
Goaaal...... by Paul Robinson
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he did many time too..now with header http://youtube.com/watch?v=MU2Yo7vpoSQ&feature=related

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QUOTE(corez @ Nov 29 2007, 02:32 PM)
Massimo Taibi, the goals he leaked against Soton and Chelski. 2 games 8 goals sad.gif
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Just before those games, he played a blinder against us! mad.gif Think it was his first game for you mancs as well.

QUOTE(Jonno @ Nov 29 2007, 03:03 PM)
Vreis sums it up nicely for me there. Keane is a fantastic footballer, don't get me wrong, without him in the side, it's hard to imagine Man U will win that many titles. At times his inspiration and never say die attitude is second to none. I do respect the bloke as a footballer, but some of the things he did was not the best memory of him as a player, like THAT tackle.

Not riling anyone, but Keane was an average player that got signed by the legendary Brian Clough from a non league side in Ireland, he was hoping just to make a few reserve games here and there, until Cloughie turned him into a great player and Fergie paid a British record of 3.2M (how times has changed  whistling.gif ) for him. I guess for Keane, his definitive moment in his career was being punched by Cloughie in the face. that changed him as a player and made him the hardman he was.
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Same here mate. Remember the very first Championship Manager game? Think it was back in 1992 or 93??? I actually signed Roy Keane from Nottingham Forest. Like you I think he's an inspirational footballer but he was at the same time, a downright nutter. Wonder who'd win a brawl, him or 'Big Dunc'? The giant Scotsman did after all apprehend not 1 but 2 thieves that broke into his house!

After reading several posts, I think some people have a misconception of what 'definitive' means. It means moments that well... 'defines' a player. A good example is when Maradona dribbled the ball past half the English squad to score what was touted the goal of the century in the 1986 World Cup. It showed the world what brilliance he was capable of.

In short it has to be a moment of utmost brilliance (or otherwise) and not just some random forgettable moment.

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Michael Owen repaid the favor with an equally fantastic goal in the '98 World Cup. The kid was and still is class, if he can get those injuries behind him.
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ryan giggs half field solo goal against arsenal in 1999 fa cup semi final replay. the best goals ever by far 4 ryan giggs n with 100 goals in his pocket now is great. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Dec 10 2007, 10:06 AM)
Michael Owen repaid the favor with an equally fantastic goal in the '98 World Cup. The kid was and still is class, if he can get those injuries behind him.
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Yeah I remember that one. Was watching the game in Perth, Australia and I was surprised to see him beat 2 Argentinean defenders before slotting the ball past Carlos Roa. What made it stand out was that one of those defenders was Roberto Ayala! Incidentally, Carlos Roa is another interesting story. He left football to do missionary work of some sorts. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Roa)
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 10 2007, 09:02 AM)
After reading several posts, I think some people have a misconception of what 'definitive' means. It means moments that well... 'defines' a player. A good example is when Maradona dribbled the ball past half the English squad to score what was touted the goal of the century in the 1986 World Cup. It showed the world what brilliance he was capable of.

In short it has to be a moment of utmost brilliance (or otherwise) and not just some random forgettable moment.
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Well not out most brilliance or otherwise, its more of a "what if" thing. Lineker's last match for England, where England needed a win to qualify for the knockout stages in Euro 92, I think against Sweden.

Lineker was a goal behind Bobby Charlton's scoring record for England. They drew 1 - 1 with Platt scoring, Lineker got subbed out at half time. They crashed out, what's new? brows.gif

Oh yeah, by the way, if I am not mistaken, Lineker NEVER had a yellow or red card in his entire career. Apparently he was sent off once in a youth team game and felt that he couldn't help the team as he wasn't playing and vowed that he would never overreact again. notworthy.gif
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Francis "Fox in the Box" Jeffers bottled it when Gunners came calling in GBP10mil deal. He never recovered from the burden of the price tag.

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QUOTE(Eunose Roadster @ Dec 9 2007, 09:42 PM)
My definitive moment in football? When Paolo Di Canio refused to score when he is in open goal position. The keeper suddenly pulled a hamstring. Instead of scoring, he catched the boll.

Nowdays, its hard to see this kind of sportmanship.
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He won an award for fair play. But he had that 'Heil Hitler' salute and pushing his teammates away to get a penalty incident in Italy.


Added on December 10, 2007, 12:49 pm
QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 10 2007, 11:08 AM)
ryan giggs half field solo goal against arsenal in 1999 fa cup semi final replay. the best goals ever by far 4 ryan giggs n with 100 goals in his pocket now is great. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Couple of years later (the match where Beckham received a boot to his eyebrow) in the FA Cup, Giggs made a similar run but decided to lob the ball to have a more 'spectacular' goal and it ended up high, wide and handsome. So you can say Giggs had a boot in Beckham's career as well tongue.gif

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Sad to say though, Di Canio would always be remembered for his fascist salute and him shrugging the ref to the ground when he was with Sheff Wed. If I'm not mistaken the ref got injured haha... can't remember who he was though. Styles?
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Dec 10 2007, 02:07 PM)
Sad to say though, Di Canio would always be remembered for his fascist salute and him shrugging the ref to the ground when he was with Sheff Wed. If I'm not mistaken the ref got injured haha... can't remember who he was though. Styles?
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Should be Paul Alcock. And I think the ref also exaggerated to have a much spectacular sight. Red for Paul I say.
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Speaking of which

my brother said he found a picture of a young Nesta marking a young Francesco Totti

Has anyone seen it

One moment defining moment for Totti was his WC 2006 contribution

He didnt score many but i remember he was instrumental in beating Germany during that Semi Final

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I can name a defining moment in former French player, Patrick Battison's career. I doubt he ever went into anymore 50-50 challenges with goalkeepers after this incident.

Harald Schumacer, you dirty c*nt!

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Battiston is particularly remembered for the 1982 FIFA World Cup semi final in Seville, when France faced West Germany. He came off the bench in the second half, and after ten minutes of play, following a through ball by Platini, Battiston was clear through the German defence racing towards goal. The German goalkeeper, Harald Schumacher, raced towards Battiston as the Frenchman took the shot, missing the goal. Schumacher leapt into the air, twisting his body and colliding with Battiston. In the process Schumacher's hip hit the French striker's face. Battiston, clattered, fell to the ground unconscious, with damaged vertebrae and teeth knocked out, later slipping into a coma. Emergency medics had to administer oxygen on the pitch.[1] Michel Platini later said that he thought that Battiston was dead, because "he had no pulse and looked pale".[2]
The referee did not give a foul, let alone send Schumacher off. Schumacher then proceeded to take the goal-kick and play resumed. After winning the game, the goalkeeper caused more controversy when he was told that Battiston had lost several teeth, and replied: "If that's all that's wrong with him, I'll pay him the crowns."
Schumacher later apologised in person to Battiston which got accepted by Battiston. In his autobiography, Anpfiff, published a couple of years later, Schumacher said the reason he did not go over to check on Battiston's condition was because a number of French players were standing around Battiston and making threatening gestures in his direction.
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Added on December 10, 2007, 5:41 pmAnother defining moment was when Andreas Escobar put the ball into his own net during a World Cup game against the USA. The consequences were severe and tragic.

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On July 2, 1994, Escobar was shot outside "El Indio" bar, located in a Medellín suburb. According to Escobar's girlfriend, the killer shouted "Gooooooooooooool!" (mimicking South American sporting commentators for their calls after a goal is scored) for each of the 12 bullets fired.
The murder was widely believed to be a punishment for the own goal.[1] It is not clear whether the murderer acted on his own initiative, or whether he was sent out by one of the gambling syndicates who had bet large amounts of money on Colombia to qualify for the second round.
The BBC issued an apology the following day after its pundit Alan Hansen commented on another match that "the Argentine defender wants shooting for a mistake like that."



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