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TSHumanExtinction
post Oct 13 2025, 12:41 AM, updated 2 months ago

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Hi everyone, would like to ask generally what brand of Milk do you use for latte or any other milk based coffee drinks?

Lately, I've been thinking of switching from normal milk to barista milk. Normally I would just buy lotus or Dutch lady brand full cream milk and use it for my latte. I've been wondering all these time is there any differences between the two? Saw online people comparing barista milk will taste more balanced and normal milk will overpower the coffee and thus made the coffee more sour. Other than that I can't really find any more info. Have anyone can taste the difference?

Cause from time to time I saw cafes or coffee chain store they will also only use normal milk like farm fresh brand to make latte/cappuccino etc.

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post Oct 13 2025, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(WongTheThief @ Oct 13 2025, 03:03 AM)
Used to be a barista for 4 years.

Really makes a lot of difference if you plan to do latte art if you use full cream milk/fresh milk vs low fat milk

Taste wise depend on how you heat up the milk, if you heat up the milk above 70c then the milk taste start to disappear already.

The milk I like the best is this UHT milk (picture below), but expensive, each at RM18+. I think now it's RM20+ already. The store I worked on before don't buy these barista milks as the store only buy this and also Magnolia fresh milk

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Thats what i noticed as well, a lot of coffee shops use those normal milk like farmfresh or magnolia brands too. Farmhouse milk out of my budget, me and my mom usually skim through 1l of milk every 2 days as we make coffee from morning to night sweat.gif Thats why usually i will just buy lotus brand 1l x 12 pack cause its the cheapest available.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 13 2025, 06:40 AM)
Just marketing. If you want best health benefits, goat milk, DIY almond and soya milk..Do not buy ready make soya or almond milk.
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I tried almond milk before (glico almond koka) and mix with espresso, taste damn weird lol.

QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 13 2025, 07:38 AM)
Yeah milk can change the tastes of coffee

I have tried many different brands of milk available on the market, from Australian brands to local brands.

Being in Sabah, I am fortunate to have access to sabah’s own brand of milk, desa fresh milk and eco-yap farm fresh milk.

Eco-yap bulldozed all those other brands by huge difference.

Didn’t surprise me when I saw a couple of coffee houses in KL bought few boxes of eco-yaps to try. It is really good.
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I bought many malaysian brands before and usually i can only taste a mild difference. But its true that overseas brands can taste much more better. When i stay in japan, I bought their local life/topvalu milk and mix it with instant and espresso can really tell the difference. Maybe cause their milk is not as diluted as ours. Even when I used back the same coffee as in japan and make the same ratio back home, it just taste difference. Not sure if water plays a part as well.

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post Oct 13 2025, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 13 2025, 07:56 AM)
I presume it will depend on personal preference on which milk tastes best with your coffee. It's the same with which brand of coffee you like best, whether it's Nescafe Gold, Alta Rica, Moccona or something else.

Based on my experience and preference, Dutch Lady Full Cream milk tastes best when mixed with any coffee. The aroma of the milk is the strongest when compared to Farm Fresh milk and Lotus full cream milk. Farm Fresh milk comes in 2nd with its pure taste, the strength of the milk with Farm Fresh is less when mixed with coffee in other words the milk doesn't overpower the coffee too much. Coming in last is Lotus full cream milk as the impact it has to the coffee is the least. To exaggerate, adding milk to the coffee is like adding water to the coffee.

So in summary, if adding milk to coffee, for me it's Dutch Lady Full Cream > Farm Fresh > Lotus Fresh milk. Usually I consume Farm Fresh milk directly without adding the milk to any type of beverages whether it's coffee, Milo or tea. It's the same with Lotus full cream milk as I prefer to consume it directly. Unless I don't have Dutch Lady in the fridge, then I'll use whatever milk I have to coffee, tea or other beverages.

For pure milk taste, Farm Fresh is best so I consume it directly pure just like it is. Lotus full cream milk and Dutch Lady full cream milk are not as pure as Farm fresh milk as the taste is slightly different, not too sure what they add to the milk. Also, if you are sensitive, you will notice that Dutch Lady and Lotus milk is slightly thicker than the more diluted Farm Fresh milk. Likely some preservative is added to the milk as the expiry date is longer. Farm fresh milk I usually buy the chilled ones where the expiry is usually about 2 weeks. With Dutch Lady and Lotus full cream milk 1 litre packed, the expiry is 6 months to 1 year.
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TBH I can't really tell the difference between these 3. I saw someone post before that lotus milk they partner up with farm fresh so the milk for lotus and ff are identical, just different packaging. Not sure true or not.

QUOTE(marvinben @ Oct 13 2025, 08:44 AM)
Barista milk got added some oil in it to stabilize microfoam. I dont like the taste at all. If you dont care about microfoam, these are UHT that I found taste best for latte:
1. Yarra UHT
2. Goodday UHT
3. Dutch Lady Full Cream UHT

These taste absolute shit but microfoam like a champ for latte art:
1. Milklab
2. Yarra Barista
3. Dutch Lady Professional

If you want fresh pasteurized and homogenized milk, go for these:
1. ECO YAP (I think this is East Malaysian thing)
2. Farm Fresh fresh milk

Desa Milk from Sabah doesnt taste good for latte.
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Dont really care much about foam and latte art at home, never try yarra and milklab b4. Will get it next time. Milklab really that bad? Saw their advertising everywhere, price also quite competitive to dutch lady and ff.

QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 13 2025, 08:56 AM)
I tried the Dutch Lady "Professional" milk before several years ago and it actually tastes worse than the common Dutch Lady full cream milk sold in supermarkets.
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Thinking of grabing one or two just to taste and see if can tell the difference confused.gif
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post Oct 14 2025, 04:41 PM

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Just went to lotus but not much selection, all are uht.
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post Oct 16 2025, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Oct 13 2025, 08:18 PM)
Of the handful of brands I've tried, yea can taste some difference. But HL milk has the biggest difference.

I stick to Farm Fresh now mainly because of convenience. The taste is pretty good as well so no reason to buy other types, which sometimes out of stock.
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 14 2025, 11:27 AM)
Similarly I find Farm Fresh milk to have the best taste. Whenever there is offer I'll grab 2 bottles of 2L.
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QUOTE(d4rkbring @ Oct 15 2025, 05:37 PM)
I tried a lot of milk, most of my favorite produced by Farm Fresh, but funnily the one I hate the most is Yarra Farm UHT, there's this smell that a bit cheesy like a milk that about to go bad, maybe it's due to the high temperature process. The only UHT I tried and like before is Oldenburger full cream.

I've tried Henry Jones A2, farm fresh, yarra farm (all fresh), and I find all of it taste better than those made with concentrated milk (check the ingredient list).

HL is okay whenever I can't find everything else, yarra UHT is the worse for me. I tried a lot of milk, so far, these 2 are my favorites

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If really no choice
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Just bought and tried farm fresh 2l fresh milk. Farm fresh milk is bit more diluted compared to lotus uht milk. While I can taste sort of slightly more milky flavor but my mom say not much difference. Will try and make latte tmr for more comparison. Btw saw henry jones as well but 1l quite expensive so maybe next time.
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post Oct 16 2025, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Oct 13 2025, 02:47 PM)
I saw someone post before that lotus milk they partner up with farm fresh so the milk for lotus and ff are identical, just different packaging. Not sure true or not.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 16 2025, 07:47 PM)
U knw lotus milk is frm Farm fresh ,some yrs back they stated on box ,now no.
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I know, quote it 2 pages back
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post Oct 17 2025, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 17 2025, 09:06 PM)
Serious shit ar? So lotus fresh milk is exactly same with farm fresh fresh milk?
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i think lotus uht same as farm fresh uht last time last i heard online (theres a possibility is DL too), now not sure cause the packaging ard change. Can see the old packaging even the top cap is the same. The old packaging is better too, when pour milk wont splash everwhere.

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now the new packaging cap is different, i think different supplier already. Maybe is marigold?
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post Oct 18 2025, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 18 2025, 07:08 PM)
let me rachun u a bit

once u try this one, dem hard to switch to other brand to make latte

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Yes this one, always see cafes use this to make milk based coffee. Able to get at store? Can find online UHT version but fresh milk version very hard to find online. Some said need to contact f&n directly to purchase.

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