if Malaysian have Ultras!, will you participate to join it?
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 Nov 15 2007, 10:39 AM
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1,557 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.   
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the players must convince the fans first about what they capable of .. then the ultras will come ... think so la ..
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Nov 15 2007, 11:17 AM
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254 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kedah
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QUOTE(JonC @ Nov 15 2007, 10:36 AM) I'd rather called it a hardcore fan club rather than the term "ultra" - it's has been sadly tainted by needless violence. Maybe FAM need to setup a specific part of the National Stadium for the more hardcore chanting and supporting fans like the Kop-end or Strefford-end. Setup and organise a better administered fan club and work close together. Sadly i think it'll take forever to get things started with the current sad state of football in Malaysia. I gave up hope a long time ago. yah this kind of think what we hope to see    even do we cant reach in same lvl with Ultras maybe what u said Hardcore Fan more suitable, why not!, as long we can show how much PRIDE we carry when we wearing NATIONAL TEAM JERSEY to stadium  |
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Nov 15 2007, 11:22 AM
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826 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: New York, Afghanistan
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ultras too much la lol
if at Anfield just sing YNWA and Fields of Anfield Road sudah no need so much violence follow wat Bruce Grobellar used to say Football is not a matter of life and death |
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Nov 15 2007, 02:32 PM
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4,567 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Singapore
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QUOTE(-Adrian- @ Nov 15 2007, 11:22 AM) Football is not a matter of life and death its more than that.  frankly speaking we most probably will never able to understand the thinking n POV of those ultras. its definitely more than juz a sport or entertainment for them. |
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Nov 15 2007, 09:03 PM
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805 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: somewhere I belong..
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I prefer to enjoy football matches peacefully rather than worry about being whacked in the head by some thugs.
Edit : Ok I missed the point of this thread. My bad for skipping rite thru. I wouldn't mind massive hardcore support, but no violence please. This post has been edited by king_z: Nov 15 2007, 09:07 PM |
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Nov 15 2007, 10:05 PM
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254 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kedah
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we just decide to do our own TIFO for next year PESTA BOLA MERDEKA maybe in that time we can have around 50 Malaysia *hardcore fans to support our national team. hopefully... |
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Nov 15 2007, 10:31 PM
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6,112 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Earth
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Violent connotations aside, I'd be an ultra!
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Nov 15 2007, 10:54 PM
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7,258 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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QUOTE(Perwaja @ Nov 15 2007, 12:54 AM) ya but u need to think also how to spark people to come to stadium. with our currently national team you think this can be done? if they can play like how keane play for MU. carragher play for liv and terry play for che, i will even walk to the stadium to support them.In Malaysia Football is still Sport not Culture like at europe or south america. u try imagine from ten people i meet and ask them to watch football at stadium only 2 or 3 will say why not i join u but almost of them have same attitude to say Last game i go to watch Malaysia play is Malaysia vs Bahrain and only 1 - 2 k viewer only . did u feel sad? at least they play in that match and try to get a goal even do they draw they deserve to have applause from us because the attitude they show to win better then (MYTEAM vs Indonesia) so at least from my point of view we try to put some other interesting except in football field with some CAPO / TIFO display when game start at least we try to motivate our player to win. - sorry if you think this is kinda disturbance but mostly of our Malaysian dont have anymore mentality to support Malaysian Football they willing to watch if that team just win but when they lost they just boooo at least show some support that we will willing to improve our football same level when Allahyarham SuperMokh still alive. but they are playing with those shity tak apa, kalah mai kalah loh attitude, why ta fark would i wana waste time on those loser  |
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Nov 15 2007, 11:56 PM
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627 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: ~sHaH-aLaM, puCh0nG & g0m84k~
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i'll join!! but with hope that nothing gone wrong!
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Nov 16 2007, 08:02 PM
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3,413 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Damansara
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Instead of marching in the streets I'll demonstrate peacefully in the stadiums.
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Nov 24 2007, 04:45 AM
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266 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: Shah Alam
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Ultra is completely different than hardcore fan. Based on the reply i think some of you didn't really understand what Ultra movement is. Any sane, educated, well raised person wont be an Ultra.
Some of them are neo-nazi, they use football as tool for their propaganda. They use football to recruit young kids into their movement. Some of those ultra movements are based on politics. They are what u call mat rempit here in malaysia, or you can name any other underground movement. Heck they even kill ppl, there are many cases of death involving ultra in europe. One example, in the 90's they found a dead body near Riazor(Deportivo stadium) the morning after the match. It was believed to be done by an Ultra. They extort money from ppl, even they're own fans who're supposed to be their brothers. Some club like FC Barcelona banned the Boixos Nois( their ultra movement ) from entering the stadium. Later they threaten to kill Laporta for that. Seriously you dont need to be an Ultra to show your love for the club. Most European i met in other forums really hates Ultra, unless he's an Ultra himself. |
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Dec 12 2007, 02:42 PM
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197 posts Joined: Apr 2005
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Yes
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Dec 12 2007, 02:47 PM
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6,112 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Earth
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QUOTE(mfaizalzul @ Dec 12 2007, 02:42 PM) Yes See what I mean?Yes |
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Dec 12 2007, 03:12 PM
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147 posts Joined: Jul 2006
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i think malaysian football needs us. to back them up and to support them. at least we have to do our part as a football fan.
indonesian football isn't that far ahead from us. but look at their supporters..how they shook gelora bung karno stadium during the asian cup. amazing scene. if i were the opponent, id be shaking man.....how fired up they are by saying "ini kandang kita" meaning this is our home!! soo inspiring and they did quite well during the tournament. id be a malaysian ultra..if not us..WHO? |
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Dec 12 2007, 05:37 PM
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254 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kedah
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QUOTE(izwan810 @ Dec 12 2007, 03:12 PM) i think malaysian football needs us. to back them up and to support them. at least we have to do our part as a football fan. well said indonesian football isn't that far ahead from us. but look at their supporters..how they shook gelora bung karno stadium during the asian cup. amazing scene. if i were the opponent, id be shaking man.....how fired up they are by saying "ini kandang kita" meaning this is our home!! soo inspiring and they did quite well during the tournament. id be a malaysian ultra..if not us..WHO?  together and forever been supporter to our national team even do they not qualified to sea game semi final T_T |
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Dec 12 2007, 05:53 PM
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7,126 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: in ur base killin your d00dz  
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so u all will go out away games to bash up other supporters ??? when in own homegrown kill them just because ur team lost a game ??? omg .....
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Dec 12 2007, 07:28 PM
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155 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Republik of Mancunia
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yah. y not?.if theres something to cheer about that is.with the current state of local football i highly doubt that.
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Dec 12 2007, 11:41 PM
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113 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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i dobut malaysia will have ultras..
ppl here are too gud and those ultras will get massive bashing by the newspaper |
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Dec 12 2007, 11:59 PM
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1,274 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah...
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surely i'll join the ultra or whatever it is...
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Dec 13 2007, 12:23 AM
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859 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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I support our country when ever there's a national match.. but All I get is just dissapointment... sighhh
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