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TSPerwaja
post Nov 14 2007, 11:07 PM, updated 19y ago

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Ultras are a specific type of sports team supporter group. They are mostly European and South American supporters of football teams.

This particular fan subgroup first appeared in Italy during the late 1960s when football teams reduced ticket prices in certain areas of the stadiums. The word ultra is Latin, which means radical in English. Since the early 1990s, the ultras subculture has increasingly become similar in style to the hooligan firm and casual cultures.Violent acts of hooliganism by groups of ultras have led to some deaths.

Ultra groups are usually based around a core group (who tend to have executive control over the whole group), with smaller subgroups organized by location, friendship or political stance. Ultras tend to use various styles and sizes of banners and flags with the name and symbols of the group. Some ultra groups sell their own merchandise such as scarves, hats and jackets. The ultra culture is a mix of several supporting styles, such as scarf-waving and chanting. An ultra group can number from a handful of fans to hundreds, and often claim entire sections of a stadium for themselves.

The four core points of the ultra mentality are:

never stop singing or chanting during a match, no matter what the result
never sit down during a match
attend as many games as possible (home and away), regardless of cost or distance
loyalty to the stand in which the group is located (also known as the Curva or Kop).

Ultra groups usually have a representative who liaises with the club owners on a regular basis, mostly regarding tickets, seat allocations and storage facilities. Some clubs provide the groups cheaper tickets, storage rooms for flags and banners, and early access to the stadium before matches in order to prepare the displays. Some non-ultras have criticized these types of favoured relationship. Some spectators criticize ultras for never sitting during matches and for displaying banners and flags, which hinder the view of those sitting behind. Others criticize ultras for physical assaults or intimidation of non-ultra fans.


Full article at here : http://harimaumalaya.com/forum/index.php?topic=103.0

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ok..what 'tifo' is all about?


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This post has been edited by Perwaja: Nov 14 2007, 11:14 PM
TSPerwaja
post Nov 14 2007, 11:15 PM

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what you referring is a Hooligans not ultras.
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:21 PM

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@yah sometimes they give a headache but its show how we unity together. btw even ultras know how to allied with opposite team. want to have a proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZj4i03OcU

PSS vs PERSIJA - Indonesia game


@giotto : the concept we wanna try to implement at malaysia is try to build a banner or chants together to support malaysian team. that all at least when malaysia play at Bukit Jalil or shah alam we can show that we still love our Football rite. that all we are not a trouble makers just a group of people who excited to see malaysia improve in football even do rite now Malaysia is not respectable team in Asia if you compare 20 years go. smile.gif

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post Nov 14 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 14 2007, 11:24 PM)
no point. Malaysia football not up to standard.
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ya that y malaysia football not up to standard. that the reason we must unity together to support the team btw the 12th person in the field is the supporter rite?
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post Nov 15 2007, 12:54 AM

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ya but u need to think also how to spark people to come to stadium. with our currently national team you think this can be done?

In Malaysia Football is still Sport not Culture like at europe or south america.

u try imagine

from ten people i meet and ask them to watch football at stadium only 2 or 3 will say why not i join u but almost of them have same attitude to say

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  no point. Malaysia football not up to standard.

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better watch EPL then Malaysian game


Last game i go to watch Malaysia play is Malaysia vs Bahrain and only 1 - 2 k viewer only . did u feel sad? at least they play in that match and try to get a goal even do they draw they deserve to have applause from us because the attitude they show to win better then (MYTEAM vs Indonesia)

so at least from my point of view we try to put some other interesting except in football field with some CAPO / TIFO display when game start at least we try to motivate our player to win.

- sorry if you think this is kinda disturbance but mostly of our Malaysian dont have anymore mentality to support Malaysian Football they willing to watch if that team just win but when they lost they just boooo at least show some support that we will willing to improve our football same level when Allahyarham SuperMokh still alive.
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post Nov 15 2007, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(JonC @ Nov 15 2007, 10:36 AM)
I'd rather called it a hardcore fan club rather than the term "ultra" - it's has been sadly tainted by needless violence. Maybe FAM need to setup a specific part of the National Stadium for the more hardcore chanting and supporting fans like the Kop-end or Strefford-end. Setup and organise a better administered fan club and work close together. Sadly i think it'll take forever to get things started with the current sad state of football in Malaysia. I gave up hope a long time ago.  sad.gif
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yah this kind of think what we hope to see smile.gif even do we cant reach in same lvl with Ultras maybe what u said Hardcore Fan more suitable, why not!, as long we can show how much PRIDE we carry when we wearing NATIONAL TEAM JERSEY to stadium rclxms.gif
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post Nov 15 2007, 10:05 PM

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smile.gif we just decide to do our own TIFO for next year PESTA BOLA MERDEKA maybe in that time we can have around 50 Malaysia *hardcore fans to support our national team. smile.gif hopefully...
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post Dec 12 2007, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(izwan810 @ Dec 12 2007, 03:12 PM)
i think malaysian football needs us. to back them up and to support them. at least we have to do our part as a football fan.

indonesian football isn't that far ahead from us. but look at their supporters..how they shook gelora bung karno stadium during the asian cup. amazing scene. if i were the opponent, id be shaking man.....how fired up they are by saying "ini kandang kita" meaning this is our home!! soo inspiring and they did quite well during the tournament.

id be a malaysian ultra..if not us..WHO?
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well said rclxms.gif flex.gif rclxms.gif

together and forever been supporter to our national team even do they not qualified to sea game semi final T_T

 

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