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post Oct 17 2025, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Meis @ Oct 15 2025, 01:26 PM)
a good read... no wonder he was not quite well known among the locals, cause those time when he overseas the media locally dont cover that much, from his achievement, i think he is the best goalkeeper msia even produced
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post Oct 18 2025, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 18 2025, 12:27 AM)
From the beginning, most people can see throigh the whole fiasco.

Some folks keep thinking that what can pass in Msia can be done internationally

This usually backfires and result is international embarassment.

The system is just messed up.

On one hand you have folks claiming moral and spiritual superiority.

On the other, the same bunch resort to lies and trickery - corruption.
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from wat i read online natxo insa also did similar process & passed, that's why helang so daring

i guess if fifa dig deeper, more bans coming
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post Oct 18 2025, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 18 2025, 07:34 AM)
No wonder why he didnt play much for national team
After one year only appear once in a friendly
After five years then appeared in proper Cup
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if u notis, we dont know his grandma or mama... unlikle others players, some times even show up in matches like corbin mama, dion parents...
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post Oct 27 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 27 2025, 02:25 PM)
At this point of time; the only out of jail card is to fight at legal court or CAS

FIFA unlikely to change decision on 30-Oct appeal
AFC will wait until all appeal including CAS exhausted before sanction decision in March2026
So the fight will go to CAS by insisting that Malaysia is a sovereign country and its official birth certificate is as valid and on par with other birth certificate issued by other countries.
The question of which one should be recoginzed is not clearly outlined by FIFA ruling.
Sounds weird but from legal point of view, may force CAS to rule that FAM had complied with all the documentation required by FIFA legally and thus valid.
FIFA may need to rephrase its heritage requirement with a new Hector ruling that only the original birth certificate is recognized for naturalisation rules.
Ayam wishing imaginasi saja
Kekwa.
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if CAS approve the dual birthcert, open flood gates for many nations, espeically those rich arabs nations...
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post Oct 27 2025, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 27 2025, 02:50 PM)
CAS will not rule on dual birthcert or dual passport
CAS will only rule that Malaysia birth cert is legally valid and from FAM POV had followed the FIFA ruling and approved
FIFA will need to revise its existing naturalisation rules to close this loophole
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logically thinking, not possible ot be born in 2place, either one has to be correct lol
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post Oct 27 2025, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 27 2025, 03:11 PM)
Hence the loophole in FIFA existing ruling
CAS can say that proving the birthplace is beyond its jurisdiction
It will only follow the rule by the book
If Malaysia a sovereign country issued a legal birth certificate then the book is done
FIFA need to improvise its ruling by adding only recognize the original birth certificate which was issued first

In the old days; some birth may have been days or weeks or months before being registered to local hospital and the birthplace could be wrong too as all were verbally conveyed by parent or messenger to the nurse writing the record
Eg a Dutch parent may bring their newborn from Southeast Asia way back to Amsterdam and register their birth as born in the hometown
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you u have a valid point there, if FAM win, really open flood gate.
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post Oct 28 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Oct 28 2025, 02:24 PM)
If FAM has any legitimate evidence it would’ve been shared with FIFA and with Malaysians. They have nothing, that much is simple.
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during PC when ask the susur galur of the players, all cannot give....

i no confidence we can win this but Fifa president came, i hope can kaodim, but i cannot figure out a reason/excuses that can please the world...
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post Oct 29 2025, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(fourzee @ Oct 29 2025, 08:10 AM)
Not even a whisper regarding the sanction issue when they met ??
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i guess the 7 are the main topics, the development part is just the reason/excuses for them to invite FIFA president here...

wanna kaodim client need reason, similar to any coporate events, like factory visit in china... is to bring client happi ending
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post Oct 30 2025, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Oct 30 2025, 12:28 PM)
Today officially checkmate....RIP harimau malaya

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result out already?

my head say FIFA win, my heart want FAM win
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post Oct 31 2025, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Oct 31 2025, 08:29 AM)
FIFA also cannot make decision after saw both countries- ori birth cert documents..  sweat.gif

If approved Malaysia, it will opened floodgate. Many more players will come & do same thing....
If it ban Malaysia; it will show FIFA make mistake too by cleared the players initially & show they interfere with govt national sovereignty.

FIFA need to buy time to proof FAM intentionally make mistake. If no evidence; it mean FIFA & FAM same position.
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FIFA no make mistake la, easily can say based on trust Msia doc, before complain
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post Oct 31 2025, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Oct 31 2025, 09:39 AM)
Same FAM argument.
It based on trust Msia doc before submit & complaint.

Copy paste ka....
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The whole problem now is this:
FIFA say FAM cheated with fake docs.
FAM say it was JPN’s mistake.
But JPN is a gov department, not under FIFA authority.

So how to solve? FIFA can only punish FAM because FAM is their member — they got no power to touch JPN. Unless Malaysia’s own gov steps in to investigate and officially clears JPN, FIFA will still see it as FAM’s responsibility.

Basically, FAM kena no matter what. Even if JPN really messed up, FIFA only cares that FAM submitted the fake certs.
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post Oct 31 2025, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Oct 31 2025, 09:53 AM)
pusing sikit can accuse govt accomplice with FAM to main tipu, kena heavier fines lulz
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No need to pusing bro — this is exactly what FIFA already claim. The only issue is, FIFA got no jurisdiction over Malaysia’s JPN or gomen. So they can only whack FAM since that’s the only party under their control 😅
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post Oct 31 2025, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Oct 31 2025, 10:00 AM)
The whole problem now is this:
FIFA say FAM cheated with fake docs.
FAM say they based on JPN documents same like FIFA process. It's not a mistake.
They only know after complaint which basically same like FIFA.
JPN/ KDN also said they carefully approved. JPN documents is valid. Menteri also said It's not a mistake, all of them Malaysian.
Malaysia documents is valid & ori... Same as other countries..
If FIFA still ban, FAM with Malaysian govt support will bring to CAS..

So how to solve?
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So basically now both sides stuck in a loop.
FIFA say FAM cheated.
FAM + JPN + KDN all insist documents valid under Malaysian law.

Problem is, FIFA’s jurisdiction only covers football matters, not a country’s civil registry. So even if Malaysia says “all docs valid,” FIFA can still say “not valid for football eligibility.”

The only way to settle this properly is at CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) — that’s the neutral ground. CAS will review both:
– Malaysia’s legal validity (JPN side), and
– FIFA’s sporting regulations (eligibility rules).

Until CAS decides, FIFA ban stays. If Malaysia wins, FIFA may reduce or cancel the fine. If Malaysia loses, then FAM kena full force again.
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post Oct 31 2025, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(sankai80 @ Oct 31 2025, 10:11 AM)
Most likely FAM and FIFA will make a deal by accepting the fault with reduced penalties to all parties involved to save cost and time. Then FAM will have to deal with Malaysia public on the fallout which not that hard since we are a forgiving society, tengok Jibby and co.
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I don’t think FIFA will “deal” with FAM la. FIFA got absolute power — FAM just member only. If FIFA say sit, you sit. Only can appeal to CAS, not bargain like pasar malam 😂
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post Oct 31 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 31 2025, 10:26 AM)
The outcome will depend on whether the Spanish officials agree to testify at CAS against FAM. If Spain declines, it's likely the ban will be lifted because CAS doesn't operate on "trust me, bro" evidence.

FIFA may have contacted the Spanish department by phone to clarify but that cannot be used as valid proof.
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FIFA/CAS court not like CIVIL court

In previous eligibility cases (e.g. Equatorial Guinea 2018, Bolivia 2016, East Timor 2017):

FIFA relied on official letters or verified registry extracts,

Interpol or national FA communication,

No live testimony from government officers.

CAS, when appealed, accepted sworn affidavits or certified documents, not physical witnesses.
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post Oct 31 2025, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 31 2025, 11:04 AM)

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so far cannot find news online... so fifa delay verdit ?
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post Oct 31 2025, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 31 2025, 12:02 PM)
The verdict likely already out to related parties just not to public yet
Similar to previous ban delayed few days to publish
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ic ic that's fair...

let FAM sink in first... then see how to break the news to FANS...
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post Nov 4 2025, 04:19 PM

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national embrassment... we need to move on, dont see how we can win this at CAS
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post Nov 5 2025, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Nov 4 2025, 08:28 PM)
But JPN doesn't have the original birth certificates. Will be very interesting. FIFA will probably have to change their rules, otherwise other countries will claim datuk nenek registered births in more than 1 country.
Honestly, I don't watch football, but this drama is so entertaining and infuriating at the same time.

I see you all talk about the glory days of Malaysian football, but that was all half a century ago. Other countries have moved on and become better.
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could be their datuk & nenek was flying from brazil half way to malaysia on their birthday
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post Nov 5 2025, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Nov 4 2025, 07:58 PM)
Someone was bold enough to point things out....good read

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-longer-pretend
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still a name lacking from this articles...

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