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post Sep 24 2025, 09:24 PM, updated 3w ago

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Come ktard, i recommend u the best engine oil there is.

Introducing Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Super Claim:
Cleans 100% carbon deposits and varnishes including in the piston rings after 4 engine oil cycles. No other engine oil claim this before. So this is a BOLD claim.

Testimonials and proofs on youtube. I will only list those easy to confirm by average joes for ktards.
1) Eliminates blowby on the engine oil cap. Easy to try, just unscrew the engine oil cap and see whether it will shake shake push by air when the engine is running.
2) Reduces oil consumption.
3) Totally cleans varnishes inside engine and dipstick. Instead of yellow brown color, it will become silver.

I have been waiting for this engine oil to be sold in malaysia since 2 years ago. Now that its here, I bought 12 bottles together. Enough for 2 cycles and 2 quarts for top up.

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post Sep 24 2025, 09:27 PM

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2024 bold
2025 valvoline
2026 is what?

Btw, i do agree valvoline is good, especially its PAO one.
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 24 2025, 09:27 PM)
2024 bold
2025 valvoline
2026 is what?

Btw, i do agree valvoline is good, especially its PAO one.
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Nonono, this valvoline restore and protect is really like f'ing good.
Their first revision of vrp, the cleaning was too aggressive until it literally clean all the gunk and deposits too fast and gunk up the oil filter in 1 cycle. So bye bye engine.

So this is their revised version, safe for the public to use. It still cleans very well and able to maintain the gunk suspended in the oil instead of all clogging up the oil filter. But the cleaning is weaker, 4x weaker hence why the 4 cycles claim.

Anyway those engines can see gunk inside, recommended run 1st cycle like 3000km only. Dont one shot 10000km.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:33 PM)
Nonono, this valvoline restore and protect is really like f'ing good.
Their first revision of vrp, the cleaning was too aggressive until it literally clean all the gunk and deposits too fast and gunk up the oil filter in 1 cycle. So bye bye engine.

So this is their revised version, safe for the public to use. It still cleans very well and able to maintain the gunk suspended in the oil instead of all clogging up the oil filter. But the cleaning is weaker, 4x weaker hence why the 4 cycles claim.

Anyway those engines can see gunk inside, recommended run 1st cycle like 3000km only. Dont one shot 10000km.
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You got use before?
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:37 PM

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already used, engine very clean
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:38 PM

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Yeah proven by motor oil geek
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 24 2025, 09:37 PM)
You got use before?
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Nope. I was using Bold all these while. Then now wan change engine oil brand since Bold company sus abit, then saw the valvoline restore and protect finally sold in malaysia.

Next month will do oil change and use this valvoline. Current oil consumption still at 500ml per 5000km. Wondering if can improve it or not.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 24 2025, 09:38 PM)
Yeah proven by motor oil geek
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Yeah, i saw motor oil geek video also. Very impressive.
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But but but harga too yarhoodee I can't afford. Lol
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(eddievh @ Sep 24 2025, 09:44 PM)
But but but harga too yarhoodee I can't afford. Lol
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Offer now. Rm48 per quart to rm38 per quart.
Thats why i direct take 12.
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post Sep 25 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Sep 24 2025, 09:37 PM)
already used, engine very clean
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Means what? Do elaborate tq
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post Sep 25 2025, 03:10 PM

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Why waste money on engine oil? Change to car with no engine i.e. EV no need to spend any money on engine oil.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:24 PM)
Come ktard, i recommend u the best engine oil there is.

Introducing Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Super Claim:
Cleans 100% carbon deposits and varnishes including in the piston rings after 4 engine oil cycles. No other engine oil claim this before. So this is a BOLD claim.

Testimonials and proofs on youtube. I will only list those easy to confirm by average joes for ktards.
1) Eliminates blowby on the engine oil cap. Easy to try, just unscrew the engine oil cap and see whether it will shake shake push by air when the engine is running.
2) Reduces oil consumption.
3) Totally cleans varnishes inside engine and dipstick. Instead of yellow brown color, it will become silver.

I have been waiting for this engine oil to be sold in malaysia since 2 years ago. Now that its here, I bought 12 bottles together. Enough for 2 cycles and 2 quarts for top up.

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post Sep 25 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:24 PM)
Come ktard, i recommend u the best engine oil there is.

Introducing Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Super Claim:
Cleans 100% carbon deposits and varnishes including in the piston rings after 4 engine oil cycles. No other engine oil claim this before. So this is a BOLD claim.

Testimonials and proofs on youtube. I will only list those easy to confirm by average joes for ktards.
1) Eliminates blowby on the engine oil cap. Easy to try, just unscrew the engine oil cap and see whether it will shake shake push by air when the engine is running.
2) Reduces oil consumption.
3) Totally cleans varnishes inside engine and dipstick. Instead of yellow brown color, it will become silver.

I have been waiting for this engine oil to be sold in malaysia since 2 years ago. Now that its here, I bought 12 bottles together. Enough for 2 cycles and 2 quarts for top up.

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does this shop in shopee sell genuine valvoline oil ? .

4L at Rm113.98 after discount. the price a bit too good to be true
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post Sep 25 2025, 03:40 PM

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Shorten EO interval to 5k km also can clean up wat
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post Sep 25 2025, 03:44 PM

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TBH, if your engine got gunk inside, means you didn't change oil on time.

10,000km or 6 months or less change oil won't build gunk in your engine.
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post Sep 25 2025, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:40 PM)
Nope. I was using Bold all these while. Then now wan change engine oil brand since Bold company sus abit, then saw the valvoline restore and protect finally sold in malaysia.

Next month will do oil change and use this valvoline. Current oil consumption still at 500ml per 5000km. Wondering if can improve it or not.
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can mix 80bold:20vulvaline1quack to clean the injin slowly?
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QUOTE(incubus69 @ Sep 25 2025, 03:39 PM)
does this shop in shopee sell genuine valvoline oil ? .

4L at Rm113.98 after discount. the price a bit too good to be true
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Its in quart and its rm39 per quart. Before is rm48
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
TBH, if your engine got gunk inside, means you didn't change oil on time.

10,000km or 6 months or less change oil won't build gunk in your engine.
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10000km mostly highway ok. Mostly city no. Proven and shown by many engine builders

Also, most bmw vw engine makan minyak after just few years. Because their maintenance 10k km.

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Sep 25 2025, 03:54 PM)
can mix 80bold:20vulvaline1quack to clean the injin slowly?
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Can but nt recommended
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 25 2025, 03:40 PM)
Shorten EO interval to 5k km also can clean up wat
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Yes. But apparently cant clean all especially at the piston ring and oil holes for piston. So i try.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 04:19 PM)
Can but nt recommended
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wat abut 98bold:2diesel to cuci injin slowslow?
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Sep 25 2025, 04:26 PM)
wat abut 98bold:2diesel to cuci injin slowslow?
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I think better use bold and valvoline
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I am tempted to get this. Just 500km overdue from 10K yesterday. Either the RM140 genuine toyota or this RM170 valvoline.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 25 2025, 04:38 PM)
I am tempted to get this. Just 500km overdue from 10K yesterday. Either the RM140 genuine toyota or this RM170 valvoline.
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can give link for Valvoline engine oil ?

too many fake outside. scary
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
TBH, if your engine got gunk inside, means you didn't change oil on time.

10,000km or 6 months or less change oil won't build gunk in your engine.
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me 7,000km in 1 year. dirty a f.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:24 PM)
Come ktard, i recommend u the best engine oil there is.

Introducing Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Super Claim:
Cleans 100% carbon deposits and varnishes including in the piston rings after 4 engine oil cycles. No other engine oil claim this before. So this is a BOLD claim.

Testimonials and proofs on youtube. I will only list those easy to confirm by average joes for ktards.
1) Eliminates blowby on the engine oil cap. Easy to try, just unscrew the engine oil cap and see whether it will shake shake push by air when the engine is running.
2) Reduces oil consumption.
3) Totally cleans varnishes inside engine and dipstick. Instead of yellow brown color, it will become silver.

I have been waiting for this engine oil to be sold in malaysia since 2 years ago. Now that its here, I bought 12 bottles together. Enough for 2 cycles and 2 quarts for top up.

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u buy from who? confirm original?
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 24 2025, 09:24 PM)
Come ktard, i recommend u the best engine oil there is.

Introducing Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Super Claim:
Cleans 100% carbon deposits and varnishes including in the piston rings after 4 engine oil cycles. No other engine oil claim this before. So this is a BOLD claim.

Testimonials and proofs on youtube. I will only list those easy to confirm by average joes for ktards.
1) Eliminates blowby on the engine oil cap. Easy to try, just unscrew the engine oil cap and see whether it will shake shake push by air when the engine is running.
2) Reduces oil consumption.
3) Totally cleans varnishes inside engine and dipstick. Instead of yellow brown color, it will become silver.

I have been waiting for this engine oil to be sold in malaysia since 2 years ago. Now that its here, I bought 12 bottles together. Enough for 2 cycles and 2 quarts for top up.

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Your engine burning oil? Need so much?
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 25 2025, 05:30 PM)
Your engine burning oil? Need so much?
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his car seports car one cool2.gif, run on RON100

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 25 2025, 05:30 PM)
u buy from who? confirm original?
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No confirm, but that is the only seller in shoppe/lazada. And he only sells valvoline so...hopefully its genuine hehe.
Plus this one not famous yet, maybe no counterfeit yet hehe.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 25 2025, 05:30 PM)
Your engine burning oil? Need so much?
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My car 1 cycle use almost 5L. 5 quartz ngam ngam. 1 quart for top up as it makan around 400-500ml for 5000km. 260hp engine, k20a type r.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 06:01 PM)
My car 1 cycle use almost 5L. 5 quartz ngam ngam. 1 quart for top up as it makan around 400-500ml for 5000km. 260hp engine, k20a type r.
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Gg
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 25 2025, 05:32 PM)
his car seports car one  cool2.gif, run on RON100
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Ron95 sahaja. Cheap n powderful
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 25 2025, 06:03 PM)
Gg
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Actually, its within the engine tolerance for this engine + i always bukakke vtec hit 8k rpm almost daily
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Yes. But apparently cant clean all especially at the piston ring and oil holes for piston. So i try.
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Isn't it like mild engine flush? Never trust flush,scared sludges stuck here n there
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:18 PM)
Isn't it like mild engine flush? Never trust flush,scared sludges stuck here n there
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Their first formula was too effective at removing the sludges. So the sludges didnt soften and gets trapped in the oil filters.

Their current formula works more slowly and able to suspend the sludges in the oil, means break it into very small particles, so no problem like their first formula or like engine flush. Hence their claims need 4 cycles to fully clean
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Ester is so yesterdays.

Alkylated naphthalene the new.king.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:30 PM)
Ester is so yesterdays.

Alkylated naphthalene the new.king.
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I dont think its only due to ester. They have their secret formula la of course. People claims its better than marvel mystery oil, seaform, and other engine flushes.
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Just put in engine flush and drive for 100+km, then change engine oil

Do this alternately or when necessary
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QUOTE(incubus69 @ Sep 25 2025, 05:07 PM)
can give link for Valvoline engine oil ?

too many fake outside. scary
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Thats the good thing about Valvoline now is that it is a cold brand in Malaysia. Cincai search inside shopee, every bottle size is in quart and nothing is cheap. Very littles sellers. If after a few months in and this brand suddenly blows up, then fakes will start to appear.

Its exactly the same scenario with the Toyota GF-6A tin can oil that i am using now. When i started using it last year, it was not sold in shopee at all. After 1 year the fakes started coming in.

So the % of you getting fake now is almost zero with that observation. I will probably check out spare parts shop to see if it is also being sold there.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 06:29 PM)
Their first formula was too effective at removing the sludges. So the sludges didnt soften and gets trapped in the oil filters.

Their current formula works more slowly and able to suspend the sludges in the oil, means break it into very small particles, so no problem like their first formula or like engine flush. Hence their claims need 4 cycles to fully clean
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Good for higher mileage cars eh? 100k km+
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:57 PM)
Good for higher mileage cars eh? 100k km+
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Yup. Or any cars that just started having oil consumption issues.
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I always wanted to do engine flush on the 300000 km myvi. But the time and cost is really a deterrent. But now seems like can do it in an economical fashion. Just maybe need to change oil filter 2 -3 times.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 04:19 PM)
10000km mostly highway ok. Mostly city no. Proven and shown by many engine builders

Also, most bmw vw engine makan minyak after just few years. Because their maintenance 10k km.
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sure not confusing miles with km? most mechanics recommend 5k miles or 6 month which converts to about 8k+ km
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 08:39 PM)
sure not confusing miles with km? most mechanics recommend 5k miles or 6 month which converts to about 8k+ km
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Yeah, 10k km.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:22 PM)
Yeah, 10k km.
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ok well, I'll just follow my car service interval.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 09:28 PM)
ok well, I'll just follow my car service interval.
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Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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Its fine, my oil will reach 6 months before 10k km usually around 7-8k km after 6 months
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Better than Hipro veltorQ V9 Sae 5W-40 4L? I just put it into my exora bold, and oh my the engine runs very smooth. My exora's ODO is around 120k. First time I tried it. Btw Hipro seems like a legit brand as it has its own factory
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QUOTE(imin @ Sep 25 2025, 10:07 PM)
Better than Hipro veltorQ V9 Sae 5W-40 4L? I just put it into my exora bold, and oh my the engine runs very smooth. My exora's ODO is around 120k. First time I tried it. Btw Hipro seems like a legit brand as it has its own factory
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Yes initially i was going to try hipro V9 5w40. Then suddenly saw this valvoline protect already able to get in malaysia, so i bought this valvoline instead. I was looking at this and even inquire to get overseas since 2 years ago. But shipping fees too expensive.

Hipro is very legit and should be very good.
Engine runs very smooth compare to?
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Yes initially i was going to try hipro V9 5w40. Then suddenly saw this valvoline protect already able to get in malaysia, so i bought this valvoline instead. I was looking at this and even inquire to get overseas since 2 years ago. But shipping fees too expensive.

Hipro is very legit and should be very good.
Engine runs very smooth compare to?
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Very smooth compared to before. Before this I mostly use Petronas Syntium 800 for my exora bold. Anyway I also just changed my spark plug, so not sure if that contributes to my engine's smoothness. Anyway this Valvoline is about double the price of Hipro. Not sure it will be better for my exora or not, but when I asked ChatGPT, basically it says:

For your situation, here’s what I lean towards:

If engine is still healthy, not burning much oil, you keep oil change intervals reasonably frequent (say every 7-10k km or whatever Proton recommends):
→ Hipro VeltorQ V9 5W-40 is a strong choice. The thickness at operating temps helps protect your worn parts, the PAO + ester blend gives good film strength, and the low SAPS additives help longevity.

If your engine has build up/sludge, has been using low quality oil previously, or you care a lot about cleaning and restoring performance:
→ Valvoline Restore & Protect could help. But maybe use it for a couple of oil changes then consider switching to a robust oil like the Hipro. Also, you might want the Restore & Protect grade in 5W-40, if available, to match temperature protection.

If you notice oil burning, leaks, or the car tends to run hot at load, I'd choose a 5W-40 (like Hipro) for better protection.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:51 PM)
Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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No such thing la. Mechanical parts does not works that way. If service interval of 10k works well, then it gonna works forever unless there are parts due to wear and tear.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:21 PM)
No such thing la. Mechanical parts does not works that way. If service interval of 10k works well, then it gonna works forever unless there are parts due to wear and tear.
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Only if everythg else stays the same, which it doesnt.
Thats why engines last longer with faster oil change intervals.

Case in point, which u can see with engine that equips with low tension piston rings. These engines usually by 100k km already having high oil consumptions. With 10k km oil change intervals, 50k mileage engine still ok. So by your logic its gonna last forever? No.
But if these engines undergoes oil change 5k km intervals, its still ok far after 100k km.

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 11:42 PM)
Only if everythg else stays the same, which it doesnt.
Thats why engines last longer with faster oil change intervals.

Case in point, which u can see with engine that equips with low tension piston rings. These engines usually by 100k km already having high oil consumptions. With 10k km oil change intervals, 50k mileage engine still ok. So by your logic its gonna last forever? No.
But if these engines undergoes oil change 5k km intervals, its still ok far after 100k km.
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100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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Ermm...this is not due to mechanical. This is due to oil degradation due to high mileage.

U have two data points and your argument is it still works. It will be better if u open up the engine and see how much varnishes is inside the engine, that would be more convincing. But if thats too hard for u, u can see around the world. Learn from others experiences and discoveries.

Not all engines running 300k km with 10k intervals will have issues. Not all engines running 300k km with 5k intervals will not have issues. But there are more issues with 10k intervals than 5k km intervals.

And don't be bias towards data given to u or just shut your eyes to the discoveries done by those people working on the engines. Even the famed nissan gtr engine builder says 5k km with normal genuine oil is better than the best 10k km genuine oil. That gotta have some weigh to it. Take it in, dont be bias to your views due to two data only.

And dont disregarding the issues with low piston rings having issues after 100k km with 10k km mileage intervals. More issues with low piston rings because its weaker hence the symptoms shows up more. Means there are issues with 10k km and it accelerates more if its more of city drive.

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Ermm...this is not due to mechanical. This is due to oil degradation due to high mileage.

U have two data points and your argument is it still works. It will be better if u open up the engine and see how much varnishes is inside the engine, that would be more convincing. But if thats too hard for u, u can see around the world. Learn from others experiences and discoveries.

Not all engines running 300k km with 10k intervals will have issues. Not all engines running 300k km with 5k intervals will not have issues. But there are more issues with 10k intervals than 5k km intervals.

And don't be bias towards data given to u or just shut your eyes to the discoveries done by those people working on the engines. Even the famed nissan gtr engine builder says 5k km with normal genuine oil is better than the best 10k km genuine oil. That gotta have some weigh to it. Take it in, dont be bias to your views due to two data only.

And dont disregarding the issues with low piston rings having issues after 100k km with 10k km mileage intervals. More issues with low piston rings because its weaker hence the symptoms shows up more. Means there are issues with 10k km and it accelerates more if its more of city drive.
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but varnishes doesn't harm engine at all. its normal for any engine to have some varnish

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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I wanna know what car engine uses 0/20 made in year 2006. 🤔

2008 Myvi 1.3L uses 5/30 out of box. So am curious what supercar is that.
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but varnishes doesn't harm engine at all. its normal for any engine to have some varnish
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Ya varnish doesnt harm the engine. However if u can see varnishes, those prone to carbon deposit areas like at the piston rings and piston oil passage ways almost guaranteed to have some degree of carbon. The longer it goes, the more carbon will slowly build up.

The varnish just shows that there are carbon developing in the engine.
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Ya varnish doesnt harm the engine. However if u can see varnishes, those prone to carbon deposit areas like at the piston rings and piston oil passage ways almost guaranteed to have some degree of carbon. The longer it goes, the more carbon will slowly build up.

The varnish just shows that there are carbon developing in the engine.

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Thats what engine oil is suppose to do. remove the carbon by continuous flow. Any engine oil can do this, no need special 'cleaning' oil.
Heck, even Bold Oil is enough lol.
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Nothing beats your change your oil earlier . You engine will be super clean . Instead of 10kkm change ,why not change it at 7kkm.
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Thats what engine oil is suppose to do. remove the carbon by continuous flow. Any engine oil can do this, no need special 'cleaning' oil.
Heck, even Bold Oil is enough lol.
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I see..Let me rephrase that bolded part. Instead of the varnish show carbon is developing in the engine, its supposed to be the varnish shows that carbon is not fully cleaned from the engine. There will be accumulation of carbon if it continues.


Hmmm. How do i make it clearer.. varnishes means there were deposits, hence it changes color even on the metal. Means not 100% clean all. Those exposed parts away from hotspots will be ok due to the varnishes cannot get thicker as the oil is still capable. But those super hot and tight spaces, the carbon is baked and it will slowly build up there. Especially at the piston rings lands.
Dont have to take my word for it...research abit on 10k oil change practices and see what they find. There were reports on gunk forming, especially on mostly city drive.

And yes even bold is enough, as long as u dont drive 10k km in city. My car having oil consumption due to previous owner do prolong oil change intervals. Its was over 1L initially. When i got it, i change every 5k km and it slowly improves. Now its consuming around 400-500ml.

Anyway, those varnishes u see on high mileage engine, it can be clean until silver shining back with the valvoline protect.

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I see..Let me rephrase that bolded part. Instead of the varnish show carbon is developing in the engine, its supposed to be the varnish shows that carbon is not fully cleaned from the engine. There will be accumulation of carbon if it continues.
Hmmm. How do i make it clearer.. varnishes means there were deposits, hence it changes color even on the metal. Means not 100% clean all. Those exposed parts away from hotspots will be ok due to the varnishes cannot get thicker as the oil is still capable. But those super hot and tight spaces, the carbon is baked and it will slowly build up there. Especially at the piston rings lands.
Dont have to take my word for it...research abit on 10k oil change practices and see what they find. There were reports on gunk forming, especially on mostly city drive.

And yes even bold is enough, as long as u dont drive 10k km in city. My car having oil consumption due to previous owner do prolong oil change intervals. Its was over 1L initially. When i got it, i change every 5k km and it slowly improves. Now its consuming around 400-500ml.

Anyway, those varnishes u see on high mileage engine, it can be clean until silver shining back with the valvoline protect.
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I agree with gunk forming in tight spaces around piston rings, I use this video as reference :

But this was caused by 10,000 MILES oil change interval, not KM!

As the guy says, change your oil every 5000 MILES (not KM) or 6 months, and you will have no problems

(this advice is for Toyota engines only)
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 26 2025, 03:35 AM)
I agree with gunk forming in tight spaces around piston rings, I use this video as reference :

But this was caused by 10,000 MILES oil change interval, not KM!

As the guy says, change your oil every 5000 MILES (not KM) or 6 months, and you will have no problems

(this advice is for Toyota engines only)
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Yeah angmoh land 10000 miles, even toyota reliable engines die fast. And they have stretches and stretches of long roads.

In malaysia roads, i have seen engine rebuilds that changes oil at 10000km and talked to the mechanics. 10000km will have varnishes and some gunk especially if mostly driven on town. I have seen the insides of malaysian's cars engines, hence i always recommend people to change earlier. If wan to use the cars for 9 years or 200k km, i think can just follow the 10k km if written on their manual book.

Btw my friend's vw arteon engine, 3rd year, below
30k mileage already started consuming oil 1L/5000km. And its normal on these engines too. 10000km oil change intervals. And VW says its normal to consume oil lol. Many having these issues until its already the norm. Confirm not engine cylinder walls worn as its using low tension piston rings. Those rings confirm stuck by carbon. Even with just abit of carbon it will get those low tension rings stuck easily. This is the proof of carbon forming at the pistons with 10000km in malaysia. Normal piston rings will be able to retain its function longer.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 25 2025, 06:45 PM)
Thats the good thing about Valvoline now is that it is a cold brand in Malaysia. Cincai search inside shopee, every bottle size is in quart and nothing is cheap. Very littles sellers. If after a few months in and this brand suddenly blows up, then fakes will start to appear.

Its exactly the same scenario with the Toyota GF-6A tin can oil that i am using now. When i started using it last year, it was not sold in shopee at all. After 1 year the fakes started coming in.

So the % of you getting fake now is almost zero with that observation. I will probably check out spare parts shop to see if it is also being sold there.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 25 2025, 07:59 PM)
I always wanted to do engine flush on the 300000 km myvi. But the time and cost is really a deterrent. But now seems like can do it in an economical fashion. Just maybe need to change oil filter 2 -3 times.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:51 PM)
Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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Kinda disagree. Most car with using fully synthetic no issues to take it till 10k km interval, hnece most Japanese brand put it at there. Conti brand with a more environment conscious thing, make it till 15k km interval (by using fully synthetic), also no issue.

Had car with 380k km with 10k-13k km service intervals, no issues. Just make sure if got oil diminished after sometimes, it must be due to leak somewhere, like valve cover gasket or major at flywheel oil seal. Repair that, then no problem in a long run
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 26 2025, 01:57 AM)
I see..Let me rephrase that bolded part. Instead of the varnish show carbon is developing in the engine, its supposed to be the varnish shows that carbon is not fully cleaned from the engine. There will be accumulation of carbon if it continues.
Hmmm. How do i make it clearer.. varnishes means there were deposits, hence it changes color even on the metal. Means not 100% clean all. Those exposed parts away from hotspots will be ok due to the varnishes cannot get thicker as the oil is still capable. But those super hot and tight spaces, the carbon is baked and it will slowly build up there. Especially at the piston rings lands.
Dont have to take my word for it...research abit on 10k oil change practices and see what they find. There were reports on gunk forming, especially on mostly city drive.

And yes even bold is enough, as long as u dont drive 10k km in city. My car having oil consumption due to previous owner do prolong oil change intervals. Its was over 1L initially. When i got it, i change every 5k km and it slowly improves. Now its consuming around 400-500ml.

Anyway, those varnishes u see on high mileage engine, it can be clean until silver shining back with the valvoline protect.
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Be it a Honda, better send for flywheel oil seal check considering high mileage. Mine kene at 230k km, and change together all the seal one go. Burn almost rm1.6k at my regular workshop. Ask TikTok workshop, straight quoted rm3k+ all in free engine oil
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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Yeah bro same like u OCd EO short intervals, my new cars even during warranty I go in between outside SC oil change every 3 mths

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No confirm, but that is the only seller in shoppe/lazada. And he only sells valvoline so...hopefully its genuine hehe.
Plus this one not famous yet, maybe no counterfeit yet hehe.
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come to think of it, I might repack back , say, bold EO into fake valvoline bottle

still can make some decent $ cool2.gif
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 25 2025, 07:59 PM)
I always wanted to do engine flush on the 300000 km myvi. But the time and cost is really a deterrent. But now seems like can do it in an economical fashion. Just maybe need to change oil filter 2 -3 times.
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go search in shop33

RM20.70 only. genuine TCM from S Mall

Tan Chong Nissan Liqui Moly TC-Liqui Moly Engine Flush (300ml)

300ml is sufficient for up to 6L of motor oil.
Made in Germany
Produced exclusively by Liqui Moly for Tan Chong Motor
For cleaning and flushing out the oil circuits of gasoline or diesel engines. Not suitable for use on motorbikes with wet clutches.

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No confirm, but that is the only seller in shoppe/lazada. And he only sells valvoline so...hopefully its genuine hehe.
Plus this one not famous yet, maybe no counterfeit yet hehe.
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Can share shop name?
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TS' engine probably full of debris from using too much recycled crap that now need to stick back to expensive EO in hopes of restoration.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 26 2025, 06:33 AM)
Kinda disagree. Most car with using fully synthetic no issues to take it till 10k km interval, hnece most Japanese brand put it at there. Conti brand with a more environment conscious thing, make it till 15k km interval (by using fully synthetic), also no issue.

Had car with 380k km with 10k-13k km service intervals, no issues. Just make sure if got oil diminished after sometimes, it must be due to leak somewhere, like valve cover gasket or major at flywheel oil seal. Repair that, then no problem in a long run
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Not all will have issues, but more issues with 10k km. If cars with low tension piston rings, 100k km already almost all facing eating engine oil.
Lots of issues, maybe u are not aware. Go to vw, bmw, audi group and check out. Oil consumption has become a 'non issue' because its already considered 'normal'.
My friend's vw arteon 3 years old, 30k+ km, 10k oil change intervals. Already consuming engine oil.
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TS' engine probably full of debris from using too much recycled crap that now need to stick back to expensive EO in hopes of restoration.
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Wrong. Its improving in my hand.
Fact is previous owner didnt take care much and its consuming engine oil at more than 1L/5000km.
When i got it, i change engine oil every 5000km. Now its only consuming 400-500ml/5000km.
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come to think of it, I might repack back , say, bold EO into fake valvoline bottle

still can make some decent $  cool2.gif
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Not all will have issues, but more issues with 10k km. If cars with low tension piston rings, 100k km already almost all facing eating engine oil.
Lots of issues, maybe u are not aware. Go to vw, bmw, audi group and check out. Oil consumption has become a 'non issue' because its already considered 'normal'.
My friend's vw arteon 3 years old, 30k+ km, 10k oil change intervals. Already consuming engine oil.
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Some how H with 1.5t will have increase due to slight dilution oil
My ketam run 144k km no drop at all
Now G10 115k also no drop
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Can share shop name?
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There is only 1 seller selling valvoline restore and protect in shopee.i bought it from him.
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Some how H with 1.5t will have increase due to slight dilution oil
My ketam run 144k km no drop at all
Now G10 115k also no drop
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Because the honda 1.5T is using low tension piston rings. These rings much easier to get stuck with just some carbon.
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True also what. unless you buy from Vanli Jln Ipoh and keep a spare at home, which u can do blind test ( by smell ) , other than that, technology nowadays can produce fake stuff at almost nearlee quality
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There is only 1 seller selling valvoline restore and protect in shopee.i bought it from him.
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So bro how's the oil? Seems tht VRP, good for LSPi T engines;
Your driving style is considered "severe service," and here’s why this oil is an excellent match for those conditions.

Why Stop-and-Go Driving is So Hard on Your Engine:

1. More Frequent Low-Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) Risk: Your 1.5T engine is constantly accelerating from a stop (high load at low RPM), which is the prime condition for LSPI—a major killer of turbocharged engines. Valvoline Restore & Protect is specifically formulated to protect against this.
2. Increased Fuel Dilution: In short-trip driving, the engine rarely reaches its optimal operating temperature for a sustained period. This can lead to unburned fuel leaking past the piston rings and contaminating the oil (a known issue with direct injection engines like yours). This thins the oil and reduces its lubricity. A robust synthetic oil resists this breakdown better.
3. More Engine Wear: Most engine wear happens during cold starts and at low operating temperatures. Your driving pattern consists of many "mini" cold starts and prolonged low-temperature operation.
4. Heat Buildup: Sitting in traffic with the engine running creates significant heat without the strong airflow from driving at speed, putting stress on the oil.

How Valvoline Restore & Protect Specifically Helps:

· Superior Anti-Wear Additives: The "Protect" side of the formula provides an extremely strong film strength that protects engine components even during the frequent low-RPM, high-load acceleration of stop-and-go traffic.
· LSPI Protection: As mentioned, this is its flagship feature for turbo engines and is perfectly suited to your driving style.
· Thermal Stability: It resists thinning out and breaking down under the high heat loads generated in traffic.
· Cleaning Power: It helps prevent the formation of sludge and deposits that can be accelerated by fuel dilution and frequent short trips.

Crucial Recommendation: Shorten Your Oil Change Interval

Given your "severe service" driving conditions, the most important thing you can do—even more important than the brand of oil—is to change your oil more frequently.

· Honda's "Normal" Service Interval: Might be around 10,000-15,000 km.
· Your "Severe Service" Interval Should Be: Every 5,000 - 7,000 km, or every 6 months, whichever comes first.

The restorative and protective additives in the oil get used up over time. In your demanding driving environment, they deplete faster. Changing the oil more often ensures those additives are always fresh and active, protecting your engine.

Final, Tailored Recommendation:

1. Product: Valvoline Restore & Protect High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30. The extra seal conditioners and anti-wear additives are ideal for your high-mileage, high-stress driving.
2. Interval: Change it every 6,000 km. This is a safe, effective interval for your usage. Don't wait for 10,000 km.

By using this high-quality oil and adhering to a shorter change interval, you are giving your Accord's turbocharged engine the best possible defense against the harsh reality of daily stop-and-go traffic. This is the perfect strategy for long-term reliability
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As read from another thread discuss about engine oil, we can only know if the engine oil are indeed good by oil analysis taken from the used engine oil, where a through details, parameters are shown.


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Picture taken for my x70 ckd, which use stock engine oil from Proton SC, from new till warranty ended. They use Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 for 5L.

Mileage taken at 93k km
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As read from another thread discuss about engine oil, we can only know if the engine oil are indeed good by oil analysis taken from  the used engine oil, where a through details, parameters are shown.
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Picture taken for my x70 ckd, which use stock engine oil from Proton SC, from new till warranty ended. They use Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 for 5L.

Mileage taken at 93k km
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Nice, every 10k km serviced or earlier?
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Nice, every 10k km serviced or earlier?
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10k km interval. on early days (thanks to MCO) car was average 3k-4k per 6 months for service
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Nope. I was using Bold all these while. Then now wan change engine oil brand since Bold company sus abit, then saw the valvoline restore and protect finally sold in malaysia.

Next month will do oil change and use this valvoline. Current oil consumption still at 500ml per 5000km. Wondering if can improve it or not.
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Synpower is the best Valvoline oil.

My honda no oil consumption problem..... 10k interval serbis.

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Picture taken for my x70 ckd, which use stock engine oil from Proton SC, from new till warranty ended. They use Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 for 5L.

Mileage taken at 93k km
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Looks very clean so far, for your driving style n changing in 10000km, this looks ok. How many km per month? City/highway ratio?

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Just wondering this part is it varnish or leftover engine oil? Based on the shape, it looks like varnish. Anyway the most severe part will be at the piston ringlands...since that is hottest.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 08:39 PM)
sure not confusing miles with km? most mechanics recommend 5k miles or 6 month which converts to about 8k+ km
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:05 AM)
10k km interval. on early days (thanks to MCO) car was average 3k-4k per 6 months for service
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So pic taken ,did gasket change?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 09:56 AM)
As read from another thread discuss about engine oil, we can only know if the engine oil are indeed good by oil analysis taken from  the used engine oil, where a through details, parameters are shown.
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People did bring the valvoline restore n protect for oil analysis before. The oil nothing special, even the detergents are just normal values compared to other fs oil.
However already many reviews said it works in helping reduce blowby and oil consumption s, in forums and youtubes all got document their findings. Valvoline engineer said they have special formulation in their addictives, however the oil analysis will look normal only unlike their first version of vrp which uses lots of ester to clean super aggressively until it clog up the oil filter too fast.
If u have abit of varnish in your dipstick, u just need to see the dipstick gets cleaner.
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so valvoline is the best ?

well time to get it for my 12 year myvi
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So bro how's the oil? Seems tht VRP, good for LSPi T engines;
Your driving style is considered "severe service," and here’s why this oil is an excellent match for those conditions.

Why Stop-and-Go Driving is So Hard on Your Engine:

1. More Frequent Low-Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) Risk: Your 1.5T engine is constantly accelerating from a stop (high load at low RPM), which is the prime condition for LSPI—a major killer of turbocharged engines. Valvoline Restore & Protect is specifically formulated to protect against this.
2. Increased Fuel Dilution: In short-trip driving, the engine rarely reaches its optimal operating temperature for a sustained period. This can lead to unburned fuel leaking past the piston rings and contaminating the oil (a known issue with direct injection engines like yours). This thins the oil and reduces its lubricity. A robust synthetic oil resists this breakdown better.
3. More Engine Wear: Most engine wear happens during cold starts and at low operating temperatures. Your driving pattern consists of many "mini" cold starts and prolonged low-temperature operation.
4. Heat Buildup: Sitting in traffic with the engine running creates significant heat without the strong airflow from driving at speed, putting stress on the oil.

How Valvoline Restore & Protect Specifically Helps:

· Superior Anti-Wear Additives: The "Protect" side of the formula provides an extremely strong film strength that protects engine components even during the frequent low-RPM, high-load acceleration of stop-and-go traffic.
· LSPI Protection: As mentioned, this is its flagship feature for turbo engines and is perfectly suited to your driving style.
· Thermal Stability: It resists thinning out and breaking down under the high heat loads generated in traffic.
· Cleaning Power: It helps prevent the formation of sludge and deposits that can be accelerated by fuel dilution and frequent short trips.

Crucial Recommendation: Shorten Your Oil Change Interval

Given your "severe service" driving conditions, the most important thing you can do—even more important than the brand of oil—is to change your oil more frequently.

· Honda's "Normal" Service Interval: Might be around 10,000-15,000 km.
· Your "Severe Service" Interval Should Be: Every 5,000 - 7,000 km, or every 6 months, whichever comes first.

The restorative and protective additives in the oil get used up over time. In your demanding driving environment, they deplete faster. Changing the oil more often ensures those additives are always fresh and active, protecting your engine.

Final, Tailored Recommendation:

1. Product: Valvoline Restore & Protect High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30. The extra seal conditioners and anti-wear additives are ideal for your high-mileage, high-stress driving.
2. Interval: Change it every 6,000 km. This is a safe, effective interval for your usage. Don't wait for 10,000 km.

By using this high-quality oil and adhering to a shorter change interval, you are giving your Accord's turbocharged engine the best possible defense against the harsh reality of daily stop-and-go traffic. This is the perfect strategy for long-term reliability
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It might be me just being bias, but my engine slight ticking noise seems to get quieter after 500km? Im not too sure since its just 700km so far. My engine inside looks super clean since i always change 5000km, so cannot use sight to check also.
I think most obvious thing i can check is my oil consumption rate since i have been monitoring it since last time. Currently 700km i cannot see any changes in oil consumption so far. Previously using 5w40, now is 5w30.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
So pic taken ,did gasket change?
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yup, got very slight leaked at one location of the gasket. so change it.
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so valvoline is the best ?

well time to get it for my 12 year myvi
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if for me, any original genuine engine oil fully synthetic, followed the car oil viscosity receommended are the best. Some newer car (or since 2015 onwards) did recommend for 0w20 oil for greater FC and "lighter" feeling from the engine
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:28 AM)
It might be me just being bias, but my engine slight ticking noise seems to get quieter after 500km? Im not too sure since its just 700km so far. My engine inside looks super clean since i always change 5000km, so cannot use sight to check also.
I think most obvious thing i can check is my oil consumption rate since i have been monitoring it since last time. Currently 700km i cannot see any changes in oil consumption so far. Previously using 5w40, now is 5w30.
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Haha so short intervals, so no need restore also.
I plan to also get it soon as price same/cheaper as getting Honda Ori oils
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:37 AM)
yup, got very slight leaked at one location of the gasket. so change it.
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Normal wear n tear fr valve gasket leaks once hit 100k km+
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:23 AM)
People did bring the valvoline restore n protect for oil analysis before. The oil nothing special, even the detergents are just normal values compared to other fs oil.
However already many reviews said it works in helping reduce blowby and oil consumption s, in forums and youtubes all got document their findings. Valvoline engineer said they have special formulation in their addictives, however the oil analysis will look normal only unlike their first version of vrp which uses lots of ester to clean super aggressively until it clog up the oil filter too fast.
If u have abit of varnish in your dipstick, u just need to see the dipstick gets cleaner.
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I did changed to Shopee Mall engine oil which they advertised with PAO + Ester. If it indeed clean agressively (due to PAO + Ester), I will repeat this.
Is this bold parts are similar to Shell Helix Malaysia version where they advertised it as "Untuk Pasaran Malaysia" where most known no technical changes for the oil vs other region.

For analysis parts, hopefully there are one who done it on the Petrol version. Cz some brand advertised their Fuel are the bestest vs others, some mentioned put double additive vs recommended, while some offer the best for their 97 Ron.

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Haha so short intervals, so no need restore also.
I plan to also get it soon as price same/cheaper as getting Honda Ori oils
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Im restoring what the previous owner did. When i got the car, the oil consumption was over 1L per 5000km. Previous owner change oil every 10000km.
Now the oil consumption is 300ml-400ml per 5000km after many cycles of using bold engine oil and changing it every 5000km. And this level no more improve. So now i am trying this valvoline restore.
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I use this 0W20

https://totalenergies.my/automotive-product...artz-9000-range

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:12 AM)
Looks very clean so far, for your driving style n changing in 10000km, this looks ok. How many km per month? City/highway ratio?

user posted image

Just wondering this part is it varnish or leftover engine oil? Based on the shape, it looks like varnish. Anyway the most severe part will be at the piston ringlands...since that is hottest.
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first 2 years, very low mileage. after that, for the past 3 years, can get almost 10k km per 6 months. I would say most of times at city drive and only about once a months for long distance drive (4-5 hours distance). At highway, will put it 140-160kmh as consistent as possible.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:46 AM)
I did changed to Shopee Mall engine oil which they advertised with PAO + Ester. If it indeed clean agressively (due to PAO + Ester), I will repeat this.
If this bold parts are similar to Shell Helix Malaysia version where they advertised it as "Untuk Pasaran Malaysia" where most known no technical changes for the oil vs other region.

For analysis parts, hopefully there are one who done it on the Petrol version. Cz some brand advertised their Fuel are the bestest vs others, some mentioned put double additive vs recommended, while some offer the best for their 97 Ron.
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No la, the bolded part is not like for pasaran malaysia.
Their first version is restore blue. Super aggressive cleaning, can clean all in 1 cycle but than have filter clogged issue. So their change formula to this, need 4x cycle for same effect but wont clog the oil filter.
Valvoline claim for restore n protect also seems quite sceptical at first, but after using it many found it to be true.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:50 AM)
first 2 years, very low mileage. after that, for the past 3 years, can get almost 10k km per 6 months. I would say most of times at city drive and only about once a months for long distance drive (4-5 hours distance). At highway, will put it 140-160kmh as consistent as possible.
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Wah u quite high mileage can finish 10k in 6 months. I only 5k in 6 months. Since u have super long distance once a month, i think yours no issue 10k km / 6 month cycle.

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 10 2025, 10:53 AM)
Wah u quite high mileage can finish 10k in 6 months. I only 5k in 6 months. Since u have super long distance once a month, i think yours no issue 10k km / 6 month cycle.
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Me also can reach near 10k km or 6mth,so every 5-6k km in 3 mths change EO,so mine engine I assume shud quite clean.
Jus receive the VRP, seems the sticker didn't mention 4x change to get it clean ya,so I asked seller,says it's new oil n this product is the only V tht offers now
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 08:54 AM)
Me also can reach near 10k km or 6mth,so every 5-6k km in 3 mths change EO,so mine engine I assume shud quite clean.
Jus receive the VRP, seems the sticker didn't mention 4x change to get it clean ya,so I asked seller,says it's new oil n this product is the only V tht offers now
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ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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Not believer of flush as heard bad incidents frm it,I jus shorten my EO intervals to up to 3x also good enuff. So far all good, my ave engine used up to 140k km for my past 4 cars
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 09:57 AM)
Not believer of flush as heard bad incidents frm it,I jus shorten my EO intervals to up to 3x also good enuff. So far all good, my ave engine used up to 140k km for my past 4 cars
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Can give few more incidents that I have seen

Some additives that was suspected expired was used unknowingly

The said additive somehow accumulated water due to condensation etc

After flush got misfired
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my car can use ah? normally use petronas syntium 3000

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Oct 13 2025, 10:03 AM)
Can give few more incidents that I have seen

Some additives that was suspected expired was used unknowingly

The said additive somehow accumulated water due to condensation etc

After flush got misfired
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Yes usually chemical reactions and make it sludgy and stuck all over inside engine
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my car can use ah? normally use petronas syntium 3000
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 12:16 PM)
Yes usually chemical reactions and make it sludgy and stuck all over inside engine
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if look at reputable brand of flush, they all suggest the 1st oil change after done the flush at 1k-2k km. I never done flush only oil change so far
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Ayam use cheap cheap shell helix ultra, ok je, very smooth. Gonna try more expensive punya castrol edge next time since many of my friends say castrol edge is good
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 09:03 AM)
ask chatgpt, EO with Pao + Ester also proven to clean the engine but takes time, maybe 3x change of oil only can get effect. Else if do have critical amount of deposit etc, engine flush it is
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But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 13 2025, 02:33 PM)
But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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I think its the combination of ingredients with good chemistry that makes it work so well. Many did analyse the oil using lab analysis and it looks like normal oil only.
Anyway, even premium brands with group V esters couldnt clean as well as this valvoline. In fact no brand manage to clean the piston rings. This is proven when cars with low tension piston rings use this valvoline the oil consumption and blowby drop drastically. Not to mention few people even compared cylinder compression before and after. Cars with oil consumption issue increase compression after using.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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If your oil have no oil consumption issue, then no need i think.
Mine consuming oil 1L+ every 5000km when i bought the car. They said its normal for type R engine with over 200k km mileage.
But after i change every 5000km with fs engine oil for many cycles, the oil consumption reduces to 300-400ml per 5000km.
Hence i think still can improve and try using this valvoline.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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Same I used only H n Shell oil 0-20w n since my engine now 112k km, plan use 5-30w she'll n now since jus gt the VRP with almost same price as the shell but cheaper than H oil ,try lo and I think my overboost little 1.5T engine can be cleaner n last long but then again by 150k km usually gt new car liou
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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Same feedback for shell helix Ultra 5w40. Can buy at Lotus Kajang cz they usually has big numbers of bottles and promotion.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 13 2025, 02:33 PM)
But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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Great finding. Maybe next to retain Shopee Mall engine oil which advertised as Ester formulated, some bottles with PAO + Ester
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:52 PM)
Same I used only H n Shell oil 0-20w n since my engine now 112k km, plan use 5-30w she'll n now since jus gt the VRP with almost same price as the shell but cheaper than H oil ,try lo and I think my overboost  little 1.5T engine can be cleaner n last long but then again by 150k km usually gt new car liou
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Why u wan to increase from w20 to w30?
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Why u wan to increase from w20 to w30?
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Not much diff actually,jus better heat control n mileage also high, some H SC ask to upgrade to 5-30 also even when new,anywya6in manual also recommended.
This engine also have risk of oil dilution 3-4% every 1k km as data frm US accords.thankfully our climate is way warmer
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:46 AM)
I did changed to Shopee Mall engine oil which they advertised with PAO + Ester. If it indeed clean agressively (due to PAO + Ester), I will repeat this.
Is this bold parts are similar to Shell Helix Malaysia version where they advertised it as "Untuk Pasaran Malaysia" where most known no technical changes for the oil vs other region.

For analysis parts, hopefully there are one who done it on the Petrol version. Cz some brand advertised their Fuel are the bestest vs others, some mentioned put double additive vs recommended, while some offer the best for their 97 Ron.
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What oil & thick?
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 05:56 PM)
Not much diff actually,jus better heat control n mileage also high, some H SC ask to upgrade to 5-30 also even when new,anywya6in manual also recommended.
This engine also have risk of oil dilution 3-4% every 1k km as data frm US accords.thankfully our climate is way warmer
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The vpr u ordered is it same thickness as your current oil? Have u started using the vpr? If not yet and using same weigh oil, can u check the compression in each cylinder before using, and then retake the compression reading after using 1 cycle of vpr?
I cannot do the same as mine because previously using 5w40, now the vpr i am using is 5w30..
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not a car guy.
i buy 5L 'proton' oil from shopee suspected be fake oil.
recently trying hardex engine oil on 1.5NA almera, hardex eximius 5w30 did make the car better respond compare to previous castle 5w30...quite 'magic' for me. ofc, it can be due to i changed ignition oil and spark plug together too.

again, not a car guy.

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Oct 14 2025, 12:15 PM)
not a car guy.
i buy 5L 'proton' oil from shopee suspected be fake oil.
recently trying hardex engine oil on 1.5NA almera, hardex eximius 5w30 did make the car better respond compare to previous castle 5w30...quite 'magic' for me. ofc, it can be due to i changed ignition oil and spark plug together too.

again, not a car guy.
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Buy from shoppee authorized dealer to minimize risk of fake oil.
Or just go buy bold engine oil. Been using it in my honda k20a type R engine with 260hp, for few years and over 10 cycles, so far so good. Buy the fully synthetic one
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Buy from shoppee authorized dealer to minimize risk of fake oil.
Or just go buy bold engine oil. Been using it in my honda k20a type R engine with 260hp, for few years and over 10 cycles, so far so good. Buy the fully synthetic one
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that hardex engine oil i buy from local dealer,
that mostly service+fix germany car, benz bmw
because tons of local shop claim no tool to open the timing belt cover. he the only one with proper tool.


that 4L 5w30 fully actually sell on shopee 170+-. currently trying on old almera first. if everything fine i will use it on x50
also hardex i think more famous on grease, lubricant...less on engine oil..probably will immune fake oil for now

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The vpr u ordered is it same thickness as your current oil? Have u started using the vpr? If not yet and using same weigh oil, can u check the compression in each cylinder before using, and then retake the compression reading after using 1 cycle of vpr?
I cannot do the same as mine because previously using 5w40, now the vpr i am using is 5w30..
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No all these while 0-20, but manual but my frens used 5-30 H oils.
I don't knw how to check compression test leh.
I start using VRP by early Dec since kow only run 4k km only
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 14 2025, 12:49 PM)
No all these while 0-20, but manual but my frens used 5-30 H oils.
I don't knw how to check compression test leh.
I start using VRP by early Dec since kow only run 4k km only
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Aiya okok, then dun need check compression. Its quite easy if gv mechanic but most dont even have the tools to do it zzz..
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 13 2025, 05:56 PM)
Not much diff actually,jus better heat control n mileage also high, some H SC ask to upgrade to 5-30 also even when new,anywya6in manual also recommended.
This engine also have risk of oil dilution 3-4% every 1k km as data frm US accords.thankfully our climate is way warmer
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if your car manual recommend 0-w20, then use the recommended oil spec

apa heat control n mileage high? low boost 1.5 only ma....
just dun keep boosting when 5 mins from reaching destination, let engine oil circulate to cool the turbo before shutting the car down.

you only change if makan oil and put in thicker 5-w30.
some ask you cause they might have not got the oil in stock or they buy that in bulk thus cheaper and earn more from it


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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 14 2025, 03:17 PM)
if your car manual recommend 0-w20, then use the recommended oil spec

apa heat control n mileage high? low boost 1.5 only ma....
just dun keep boosting when 5 mins from reaching destination, let engine oil circulate to cool the turbo before shutting the car down.

you only change if makan oil and put in thicker 5-w30.
some ask you cause they might have not got the oil in stock or they buy that in bulk thus cheaper and earn more from it
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Ya always let it cool awhile b4 shutting down, the accord use same as civic but increase the Hp to 200hp
Ya sudah 110k km lo ,some owners H SC already ask to use 30 when new lo
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 14 2025, 03:31 PM)
Ya always let it cool awhile b4 shutting down, the accord use same as civic but increase the Hp to 200hp
Ya sudah 110k km lo ,some owners H SC already ask to use 30 when new lo
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Honda engine 110k km is considered low mileage.. my engine still virgin never open up before, 270k km and it still revvv smoothly to 8500rpm every time i got open roads
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 14 2025, 03:36 PM)
Honda engine 110k km is considered low mileage.. my engine still virgin never open up before, 270k km and it still revvv smoothly to 8500rpm every time i got open roads
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Not even change valve cover seal ?
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Honda engine 110k km is considered low mileage.. my engine still virgin never open up before, 270k km and it still revvv smoothly to 8500rpm every time i got open roads
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The l15t engine built too thin between chambers n have head gasket burnt issues and always fuel dilution make the EO thinner.

Well 5-30 is as thin near 0-20 n also in Service manual to use.so all good
Only tht time with my FC use Shell 5-40, memang heavy n after short run tukar back 20
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 14 2025, 03:44 PM)
Not even change valve cover seal ?
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Previous owner i dunno, but the seals look stock. If tukar d usually can see the gam gasket one.
The seals i tukar is the vtec solenoid seal and camshaft seal.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 14 2025, 03:45 PM)
The l15t engine built  too thin between chambers n have head gasket burnt issues and always fuel dilution make the EO thinner.

Well 5-30 is as thin near 0-20 n also in Service manual to use.so all good
Only tht time with my FC use Shell 5-40, memang heavy n after short run tukar back 20
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I think its due to the small indentation in the small space between each cylinder is the issue. How la the gasket wan seal properly like this.
Apparently that design to help cool the engine
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 14 2025, 04:38 PM)
Previous owner i dunno, but the seals look stock. If tukar d usually can see the gam gasket one.
The seals i tukar is the vtec solenoid seal and camshaft seal.
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Aiya ori rubber seal no need gam.
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Not even change valve cover seal ?
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mine will be hitting 300k sometime next year laugh.gif

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mine will be hitting 300k sometime next year  laugh.gif
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K series ?
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Oct 14 2025, 03:36 PM)
Honda engine 110k km is considered low mileage.. my engine still virgin never open up before, 270k km and it still revvv smoothly to 8500rpm every time i got open roads
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Near 300k km just change the valve seals lor..... All 3 of my cars need valve seals change around 300k km mileage. With your high revving persona, valve seals should have been changed even sooner.

I think cleaning further with high detergency EO will not bring you more results. Similar situation with the engine in my pic. Before valve seals change, it was consuming around 500ml/5k km. After change, no perceptible EO loss after 10k km.

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Wat u guys can get lesser EO after running our 1.5t L15 engine volume increase & valve seal also gone by 140k-150k km
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 15 2025, 08:58 AM)
Wat u guys can get lesser EO after running our 1.5t L15 engine volume increase & valve seal also gone by 140k-150k km
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On my 2.4 Accord it needs Valve seal gasket replacement almost every 90k km. Maybe 0w20 contributed to this, easier to leak?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 15 2025, 09:01 AM)
On my 2.4 Accord it needs Valve seal gasket replacement almost every 90k km. Maybe 0w20 contributed to this, easier to leak?
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Probably n fr L15 dilution causes it more due to Gdi too
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
K series ?
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yes...

unlike Balance's 260hp
I got only 200hp, probably a lot less as almost 20 years old
no oil consumption. Castrol Edge 5W30 engine oil and expensive petrol
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 15 2025, 09:01 AM)
On my 2.4 Accord it needs Valve seal gasket replacement almost every 90k km. Maybe 0w20 contributed to this, easier to leak?
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what year? maybe go with 5W30 if burning engine oil

You will also need API SN/SP type of oil if later models, I use cheaper SL oil as my car is older.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 15 2025, 10:43 AM)
yes...

unlike Balance's 260hp
I got only 200hp, probably a lot less as almost 20 years old
no oil consumption. Castrol Edge 5W30 engine oil and expensive petrol
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5w30 is the right EO for K series.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 15 2025, 10:56 AM)
5w30 is the right EO for K series.
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newer K24W requirement is 0W20 already due to tighter tolerance
but old already can move to thicker oil if start to consume oil
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 15 2025, 10:56 AM)
what year? maybe go with 5W30 if burning engine oil

You will also need API SN/SP type of oil if later models, I use cheaper SL oil as my car is older.
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definetely not burning or eating oil on 0w20. still using this viscosity on current 250k km. 2015 Accord 2.4

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QUOTE(urnicksux2 @ Oct 15 2025, 11:15 AM)
Got ktard keep mention bold but i no dare use
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Y u no dare use?
Even my car with high revving powerful engine i dare use with no issues.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 15 2025, 07:03 AM)
mine will be hitting 300k sometime next year  laugh.gif
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Yours k24? Got makan minyak? U use ron97 ah?
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 15 2025, 11:08 AM)
newer K24W requirement is 0W20 already due to tighter tolerance
but old already can move to thicker oil if start to consume oil
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That's correct. But I would still stick with 5W30 oil where the cSt vicosity of 100C is closed to 0w20.

There were a lot of reported engine damage in US using 0w20

Now US dealers switch back to 5w30
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Oct 15 2025, 01:31 PM)
That's correct. But I would still stick with 5W30 oil where the cSt vicosity of 100C is closed to 0w20.

There were a lot of reported engine damage in US using 0w20

Now US dealers switch back to 5w30
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Ya that's y if use 0-20 jus need change way earlier like 3-5k n not up to 10k miles frm US
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I reckon the problem is US service intervals are based on the 7,500-mile, that is roughly 12k km

same oil pan cannot la long run unless the car mostly all freeway. US lot of cars clock up the mileage due to heavy freeway usage.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 15 2025, 02:12 PM)
I reckon the problem is US service intervals are based on the 7,500-mile, that is roughly 12k km

same oil pan cannot la long run unless the car mostly all freeway. US lot of cars clock up the mileage due to heavy freeway usage.
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Just stick with 5w30.
There is another perfect bitog EO which I am using currently.
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Shell selling original fully synthetic 4L engine oil for RM120 in a shell petrol station. can it be trusted?
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Oct 15 2025, 04:06 PM)
Shell selling original fully synthetic 4L engine oil for RM120 in a shell petrol station. can it be trusted?
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can. but if really wanna best bang for ringgit, try find it at Lotus, they usually put offer of rm99 per bottle, shell helix 5w40
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 16 2025, 11:12 AM)
can. but if really wanna best bang for ringgit, try find it at Lotus, they usually put offer of rm99 per bottle, shell helix 5w40
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but why shell a reputable oil brand selling so cheap ?
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but why shell a reputable oil brand selling so cheap ?
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It's not Shell who do it, its Lotus. They import that oil in high volume number and that's making the overall price much cheaper.

If it indeed fake items, years ago Shell will send LOD to Tesco/ Lotus/ Aeon for tarnishing Shell name. But not

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 05:59 PM)
No confirm, but that is the only seller in shoppe/lazada. And he only sells valvoline so...hopefully its genuine hehe.
Plus this one not famous yet, maybe no counterfeit yet hehe.
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How is it after trying ah? Can tell whether ori or not?

I also came across the same seller on Shopee, but undecided yet on whether to proceed since not sure if ori.
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How is it after trying ah? Can tell whether ori or not?

I also came across the same seller on Shopee, but undecided yet on whether to proceed since not sure if ori.
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Should be ori as my engine felt quieter. I only used for 3500km currently. It felt quieter after 1500km, but the oil consumption slightly increases. Probably due to previous i was using 5w40, current this valvoline i am using 5w30.

I will continue monitor and let it continue do its cleaning as it claims needed 4 cycle. Reviews from other users reported reduced oil consumption as soon as 3000 miles to longer. So mine still early.
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Should be ori as my engine felt quieter. I only used for 3500km currently. It felt quieter after 1500km, but the oil consumption slightly increases. Probably due to previous i was using 5w40, current this valvoline i am using 5w30.

I will continue monitor and let it continue do its cleaning as it claims needed 4 cycle. Reviews from other users reported reduced oil consumption as soon as 3000 miles to longer. So mine still early.
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What is the logic of fuel consumption increase when lower viscosity oil is used?
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What is the logic of fuel consumption increase when lower viscosity oil is used?
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Ah my bad. Its oil consumption, not fuel consumption.
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Hey waitaminute i was right, i wrote oil consumption, not fuel consumption.
Uncle, get your eyes checked please tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 2 2025, 09:10 PM)
Should be ori as my engine felt quieter. I only used for 3500km currently. It felt quieter after 1500km, but the oil consumption slightly increases. Probably due to previous i was using 5w40, current this valvoline i am using 5w30.

I will continue monitor and let it continue do its cleaning as it claims needed 4 cycle. Reviews from other users reported reduced oil consumption as soon as 3000 miles to longer. So mine still early.
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Okay.. guess I will proceed and try as well lar. Cheers.
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Im restoring what the previous owner did. When i got the car, the oil consumption was over 1L per 5000km. Previous owner change oil every 10000km.
Now the oil consumption is 300ml-400ml per 5000km after many cycles of using bold engine oil and changing it every 5000km. And this level no more improve. So now i am trying this valvoline restore.
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you should also use petrol ron95 from Caltex or BHP. proven formula .
the fuel claims the best in cleaning deposits at rings




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That's no best engine oil, only have virgin oil
I use 20w50 castol mineral Virgin oil+ stop oil treatment half= blender formula still virgin

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Dec 2 2025, 11:24 PM)
you should also use  petrol  ron95  from  Caltex  or BHP.  proven formula .
the fuel claims the best in cleaning deposits at rings
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I am a long time caltex user. Doesnt work, at least not when the engine already having oil consumption issues.
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